Happens all the time, it’s a small world.

Pray hard don’t get the same jobs as your former classmates else a bit paiseh sia to work directly under them. But if your ego can take it then it’s fine lor.

Especially got case, Poly GPA3.8 go Uni, study get FCH.

Another guy Poly GPA3.3, cannot go Uni so go straight to work as Associate Assistant, climb to A1 in 2 years.

Then the 3.3 guy become the senior of the 3.8 guy omg

Have identified a potential CFO here.

NS is not a waste of time it is a mandatory requirement given the situation our nation is facing. The nation does give back to you by allowing you the opportunity to get a BTO flat which you will reap financial rewards after MOP. However I do agree on your point that for local guys especially, going to NTU over the other big 2 does make sense.

Lol need to find girlfriend first to BTO leh…

what situation? potential invading force like in taiwan? dont understand

NS is like big 4. running on cheap interns.

Let's say you retire at 50-60. Working years is about 25-40 years. One year doesn't make a difference.

It is actually not that bad. I had a good friend who finished in 3 years and went same firm as me. I just asked him to pass me working files templates when we need to do something quite new (change of regulation and etc).

And reporting line is blurred in big4 if you are good. I had overstepped my SM a few times and he is not very happy about it. But not that he can do much when he is bad at his job.

… are you a girl?

Yeah, but i think in this scenario the poly gpa 3.8 guy needs to get his degree or acca first before he can promote to A1

Agree with your viewpoint too. I guess at the end of the day it just boils down to what the individual think. For me, it is definitely better to start work earlier

Easily $60K difference! The amount compounded at 2.5% in 30 years and you will observe whether got difference or not.

No such requirement

If your friend is a S1 and the lead senior in the job, while u are the A2, you will be reporting to him directly.

The disparity is larger if compared to a female who start work at 22 years old (assuming JC ->3 years NTU course)

For guys, the earliest you can start work is at 24 years old (assuming JC -> 3 years NTU)

In theory yes, but in practice usually not so unlucky to meet your former classmate as your direct senior.

Ya when I was A2, on smaller jobs the S1 is my direct reporting. He decide what time I need to show up, go home, eat lunch, and give me instructions to do.

That's why always be nice to your classmates. Unless the person or yourself are an arsehole

Still retire at similar age even if start one year earlier.

NS 2 years or NUS/SMU one year extra. These delays matter alot when you think from a 20-25 year old perspective. Stretch your mindset abit longer, and it is just part of life.

Got my official partner promotion today suck thumb loosers while i earn 20-30 k per month with equity . All the sweat was worth it . 15 years in

fyi, nobody calls partnership a "promotion".

want to troll at least go learn the correct terms lah.

lol. which firm's hr are you from?

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why not , the company calls it as such

Hi I'm an ACCA student from Vietnam. I took ACCA immediately after pre-university without having a degree and I'm currently left with 1 paper to achieve affiliate status. I've recently received an offer from one of the big4 in Singapore as an associate. I'm wondering what would happen to my offer, if I failed my last paper prior to commencement. I've checked on MoM's site that an ACCA advanced diploma holder could still be granted an EP but what the firm requires me to bring are my degree certificates(which i do not have) and/or professional transcript. Anyone else had experienced this situation?

Time is precious, my friend. I have seen a 27 years old fresh A1 (male) working under a female manager 1 who is also 27.. and they happen to be classmates in pri sch.

It was kinda awkward.

You have not addressed the issue correctly at least not in monetary terms. The difference keeps on snow balling until you leave big4. Unless an undergrad is able to make use of the extra one year to do multiple internships to enter a financial institution, then an additional year is worth it.

The guy maybe is Sec 5 + Poly + NS + 4 year Uni route.

Then the girl is Sec4+ JC + NTU route.

Then yes, A1 meets M1.

Not awkward at all. i see before 29 yo A1 working under 26 yo manager and 25 yo female senior. All treat him like king. Meanwhile, those younger guys all kena the worst engagements and treatment

People see you older so give you more face and respect

Omg 29 yo still A1? Probably is an experienced hire, quite unthinkable to have a fresh A1 who just graduate out of school.

They probably showed him more "respect" due to his prior working experience before joining as an A1.

You think a 27 yo M1 will "respect" a 27 yo fresh grad A1 who just came out of sch with no working exp?

I think life is abit more than maximising efficiency. So don't need to be too obessed with it.

First thing. NBS 3year direct honours is faster. But NBS will always be faster regardless of career choice, and there are NBS accounting grad who did other stuff besides big4. So there is better choice among the three uni, if we want to maximise efficiency.

Second thing. I am not sure if maximising that little bit of efficiency actually matter in our world and life which is non linear and not like for like. Career in big4 is linear and largely the same for everyone, but your life is not. If you were to eventually leave big4, your career is nonlinear and not comparable too. In greater scheme of things, that extra one year 'wasted' doesn't impact your life, your retirement plans, your family plans.

I was from NUS and started in big4 . I have never heard of NUS friends lamenting the one year of difference.if any, I do hear my NTU friends complained about NS wasting two years. That probably explained why they and I chose different schools since we have different concept of time and thinking horizn.

Tiagong is career change and family damn rich one so different treatment. Probably job n big 4 to gain experience before starting own biz or take over family biz. The rest OT like dog while he gets the easiest engagements

Have one

N levels > ITE > NS > Poly > Uni route

Will start work almost close to 30 years old with no prior working experience lol

Shag. Work so hard just to becum A1 lololololol

This kind of story is usually featured on Straits Times: from delinquent to running my own successful biz with 10m annual turnover

Might as well hv studied harder in sec school instead of hanky panky with schmates in void deck. In the end so much effort still auditor only nia

This is the route least travelled. We are not in this situation so is difficult to really understand the job holder except to applaud him/her for the efforts. As for me I would have chosen to be self employed or be in direct sales line than working in a coporation with little hope of moving to a much higher position due to being a late starter.

to you is "just to become A1"

to them maybe is "yes, made it in life, finally joined a Big4". When you spend >10 years to achieve your dream, your outlook is different

Some of us are late bloomers mah... or sec sch still young didn't know the importance of studying hard lol.

big4 needs more ppl like them. those who dream to be in big4 and willing to slave for them

Nowadays hard to find already

Now is what the great resignation the great renegotiation

零零后 are born in different times from you and me 80s kids

Nowadays strawberry all want to slack. Don't want to work hard. All want to go civil service to become jiak liao bee char siew.

Want to slack then join some useless civil service organization like ICA. Renew one farking passport also take 2 months.

We at Big 4 take pride in our hard work. We will work until 5am to meet deadline.

what a good dog

I guess there'll always be suckers ready to slave for measly pay and drink the Big 4 Kool Aid.

The fact that Tongkat Ali University jhks can do your job, means you are only as good as them in Big4's eyes. If you're Sinkie, pls have some pride.

Will you accept if your daughter goes to HK to work as domestic maid along with Filipinas? Big 4 is just one step higher than that.

But once the person hit equity partner the jhk will be earning way more than u loser

That is why jhk will always pwn sinkie because of their short sightedness.

No news one week after the interview with Big 4 does it mean GG? since i saw a lot ppl get offer the next day or next 2 days.

Applied experienced hire in audit in blue last month but no news. Local and local uni. When will they get back to us? Or not processing/hiring?