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mid-life crisis 13-12-2010 06:42 PM

Ok, which means I am offered below the range. No that's my basic, and that's why they are selling me the idea of the fat bonus. I just hope they can counter close to my current. Thanks will keep you posted.

Unregistered 13-12-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 8187)
Averaged about 11% increment per year over 3 years in DSTA.

do you mean anyone from dsta (average performer) will get ""Averaged about 11% increment per year over 3 years in DSTA"" since 1st join dsta as fresh grad ??

mean 2nd lower (fresh grad) with starting pay $3280 will get 11% increment every year, and after 3 years in dsta, he will get $3280 x 1.11 x 1.11 x 1.11 = $4485

and 2nd upper will get abt $4896???

Unregistered 13-12-2010 11:46 PM

Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country.

Pilz 14-12-2010 08:44 PM

just got offered a position at a ministry.

HR told me that my medical benefits are full medisave. what does full medisave mean?

Unregistered 15-12-2010 04:53 AM

Sad pay
 
Salary range sometimes does not tally with years of experience. In the company that I am working in, new hires' pays are higher than those having 2 to 4 yrs of experience. Eg new hires' pay range 3200 to 3800, but old birds' pay range from 3000 to 3500...

Unregistered 15-12-2010 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pilz (Post 8225)
just got offered a position at a ministry.

HR told me that my medical benefits are full medisave. what does full medisave mean?

doesn't matter.... not much use anyway

Unregistered 15-12-2010 11:20 AM

Deputy Directors are not superscale. Even some junior directors are not super scales. Only Divisional directors with some years holding their positions are.

Superscales officers are paid about >$14.

For a ministry, the DD cap is about $11K. I am not sure about stat boards DD, some of them are very old. However, I believe they are not paid as well as ministry's staff because staff eg directors from ministries, when seconded to stat boards, become Assistant Chief executives instead of directors/senior directors.

AD pay is about $4-$6K, but in good times, maybe slightly more.

Unregistered 15-12-2010 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 8242)
Deputy Directors are not superscale. Even some junior directors are not super scales. Only Divisional directors with some years holding their positions are.

Superscales officers are paid about >$14.

For a ministry, the DD cap is about $11K. I am not sure about stat boards DD, some of them are very old. However, I believe they are not paid as well as ministry's staff because staff eg directors from ministries, when seconded to stat boards, become Assistant Chief executives instead of directors/senior directors.

AD pay is about $4-$6K, but in good times, maybe slightly more.

every ministry and stat board titles mean different things.
Cant compare like this.
a director from my parent ministry seconded to be director in my stat board.
and AD for some ministries like MTI is entry grade(fresh grad) so shd follow the fresh grad pay of MX scheme.

I57 onander 16-12-2010 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 8206)
do you mean anyone from dsta (average performer) will get ""Averaged about 11% increment per year over 3 years in DSTA"" since 1st join dsta as fresh grad ??

mean 2nd lower (fresh grad) with starting pay $3280 will get 11% increment every year, and after 3 years in dsta, he will get $3280 x 1.11 x 1.11 x 1.11 = $4485

and 2nd upper will get abt $4896???


Nope. An average performer at DSTA will not get that. But getting to the top ain't like climbing a mountain.
Trust me; DSTA is a very good place to start your career as an engineer.

Unregistered 18-12-2010 12:44 AM

Hi i have just been offered a 1 yr contract with a stat board...just want to know what are the chances of converting to perm? Normally what happens after 1 yr when contract is up?
Lastly, for a non local uni deg. working in stat board, will promotion and chances be limited?
Look forward to all your advises... :)

Unregistered 20-12-2010 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 8242)
Deputy Directors are not superscale. Even some junior directors are not super scales. Only Divisional directors with some years holding their positions are.

Superscales officers are paid about >$14.

For a ministry, the DD cap is about $11K. I am not sure about stat boards DD, some of them are very old. However, I believe they are not paid as well as ministry's staff because staff eg directors from ministries, when seconded to stat boards, become Assistant Chief executives instead of directors/senior directors.

AD pay is about $4-$6K, but in good times, maybe slightly more.


you are basing it solely on ministries.
ministries suffer from title inflation where pretty junior staff can have high designations (but low salary)

in stat boards, eg DSTA, EDB and educational institutes (polytechnics, ite, universities) the titles are not inflated. These people are rarely hired fresh from a 1st degree. hence the salaries are higher for the same post.

aka a Asst Dir in one of the mentioned stat boards would likely earn more than a Asst Dir in a ministry.

Unregistered 21-12-2010 11:50 AM

Comparing stat boards' salaries
 
Hi, read all 450 replies - which have given me a better understanding of the public sector pay system.

One question please: Which stat board do you think is a good employer, compared with other stat boards and ministries? Setting aside the specialist boards requiring scientific/medical degrees, which stat boards pay best, for the equivalent deputy director and divisional director positions?

Also, stat board staff are not officially considered part of the civil service. Do they also get the extra months' bonus that are announced each year?

Thanks!

Unregistered 21-12-2010 08:53 PM

bachips his
 
there's no such thing as "best stat board". all salary r fixed to market rate. how much u get depends on ur job scope n functions, n how do u perceive working in your environment.

u wan high pay can try saf or mindef... they pump in enormous defence budget every year so you can expect bonus or extra allowances depending on opportunities given to u

Unregistered 21-12-2010 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 8327)
Hi, read all 450 replies - which have given me a better understanding of the public sector pay system.

One question please: Which stat board do you think is a good employer, compared with other stat boards and ministries? Setting aside the specialist boards requiring scientific/medical degrees, which stat boards pay best, for the equivalent deputy director and divisional director positions?

Also, stat board staff are not officially considered part of the civil service. Do they also get the extra months' bonus that are announced each year?

Thanks!

No. Stat boards got own HR policy. But some follow civil service though.

gooliy 21-12-2010 11:31 PM

just got offered a position. probation is one year - how come so long?! anyone knows? or is this the norm for public sector?

so is it no bonus during probation or will be prorated?

Unregistered 22-12-2010 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 8242)
Deputy Directors are not superscale. Even some junior directors are not super scales. Only Divisional directors with some years holding their positions are.

Superscales officers are paid about >$14.

For a ministry, the DD cap is about $11K. I am not sure about stat boards DD, some of them are very old. However, I believe they are not paid as well as ministry's staff because staff eg directors from ministries, when seconded to stat boards, become Assistant Chief executives instead of directors/senior directors.

AD pay is about $4-$6K, but in good times, maybe slightly more.

Entry-level superscale is not so high. In any case, it's misleading to talk about superscale nowadays. Going back to history, the SO scheme (where the upper grades are known as superscale grades) in the civil service has been replaced by the MX scheme a number of years back. The lowest superscale was mapped over to MX 9. The current starting pay of MX 9 is I believe about 11k.

Unregistered 22-12-2010 10:14 AM

Stat board bonus
 
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 8341)
No. Stat boards got own HR policy. But some follow civil service though.

Really? I'm in private sector and assumed all stat boards pay bonuses at civil service levels, with the announcements benefitting them too.

Can people share which stat board pays how many months' bonus this year pls? EDB? HDB? IE? URA?

Unregistered 23-12-2010 08:50 PM

do civil servants have half day off tomorrow? or a holiday on monday?

Unregistered 24-12-2010 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 8344)
Really? I'm in private sector and assumed all stat boards pay bonuses at civil service levels, with the announcements benefitting them too.

Can people share which stat board pays how many months' bonus this year pls? EDB? HDB? IE? URA?


stat boards have autonomy and can decide a lot of their own processes.
as such, they have also been known to compete among each other for talent.

the 2 main areas that have pretty good remunerations are in the areas of Education and Defence, the areas that take up a huge chunk of our national budget.

For Education, NUS, NTU, SMU and the Polytechnics are stat boards under the broader MOE unbrella, and they have been known to compete among themselves for staff. also, they need to compete with many private sector organisations like Kaplan, SIM, MDIS, PSB academy for talent so the area of salaries in that are pretty competitive as they have to fight a large brain drain.

For Defence, it is integral. DSO and DSTA have also been known to pay well, this is due to confidentiality and skill needed to do the task.

Unregistered 24-12-2010 02:07 PM

Edcuation and defence only?
what about economy which is also very impt?
like STB, SPRING, IE, EDB, JTC, EMA??

Unregistered 25-12-2010 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 8369)
Edcuation and defence only?
what about economy which is also very impt?
like STB, SPRING, IE, EDB, JTC, EMA??

The ones mentioned r not bad i heard...
starting pay can be from $3k and above

Unregistered 28-12-2010 12:14 PM

Hi,

Does anyone have info on the pay structure and career advancement of MAS?

Thanks !!

Unregistered 28-12-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 8364)
stat boards have autonomy and can decide a lot of their own processes.
as such, they have also been known to compete among each other for talent.

the 2 main areas that have pretty good remunerations are in the areas of Education and Defence, the areas that take up a huge chunk of our national budget.

For Education, NUS, NTU, SMU and the Polytechnics are stat boards under the broader MOE unbrella, and they have been known to compete among themselves for staff. also, they need to compete with many private sector organisations like Kaplan, SIM, MDIS, PSB academy for talent so the area of salaries in that are pretty competitive as they have to fight a large brain drain.

For Defence, it is integral. DSO and DSTA have also been known to pay well, this is due to confidentiality and skill needed to do the task.

Faculty in NUS, NTU and SMU are paid well as they need to compete internationally for talent. I don't think the same can be said of admin staff, from what I heard from friends.

Unregistered 29-12-2010 10:28 AM

Does anyone know how much does an AD (afaik this is an entry position) in MTI earns, for let's say a position in the intl relations and policy formulation branch.

Do they give you extra allowances when you are required to travel?

Unregistered 31-12-2010 08:30 AM

Pay for 2nd Upper degree holder in Ministry
 
Hi all experienced civil servants,

I would like to know what is the possible pay for a 2nd class Upper hons degree holder (foreign uni) with 2 years of experience in a ministry?

Will I be under the MX scheme?

Unregistered 01-01-2011 01:08 PM

Hi,


I am fresh graduate,female from local uni without hon(haizzz).
Should i go for private sector or public sector for my first job?

What is the expected salary? $2500?

Unregistered 01-01-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 8435)
Hi all experienced civil servants,

I would like to know what is the possible pay for a 2nd class Upper hons degree holder (foreign uni) with 2 years of experience in a ministry?

Will I be under the MX scheme?


if you come from a 'recognised overseas university', it would be MX for sure.

Unregistered 01-01-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 8452)
Hi,


I am fresh graduate,female from local uni without hon(haizzz).
Should i go for private sector or public sector for my first job?

What is the expected salary? $2500?


I would say about 2300-2400 if your are an average performer..
no honours not easy to get a good pay. - given that 80% of local grads have honours.

Unregistered 01-01-2011 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 8456)
I would say about 2300-2400 if your are an average performer..
no honours not easy to get a good pay. - given that 80% of local grads have honours.

OMG! so little. cos i am expecting 2500$. I tot wif economy recover, now avg salary for non-honours is around $2600.

=(

Unregistered 01-01-2011 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 8459)
OMG! so little. cos i am expecting 2500$. I tot wif economy recover, now avg salary for non-honours is around $2600.

=(

What major?

Unregistered 02-01-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 8455)
if you come from a 'recognised overseas university', it would be MX for sure.

If it's a recognized overseas uni, what will the estimated pay I can get if I have 2nd class upper with 2 years of relevant experience?

Unregistered 02-01-2011 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 8465)
If it's a recognized overseas uni, what will the estimated pay I can get if I have 2nd class upper with 2 years of relevant experience?

By 2 years of relavant experience, i take it you are a poly grad upgraded to degree while working in the civil service?

If that is the case, do not expect too much.

Unregistered 03-01-2011 09:16 PM

how much is salary increment for an average performer? how does the civil service give out salary increment? is it an annual thing?

Keith 08-01-2011 01:47 PM

How much should I expect?
 
Hi all, I am from SMU, graduated with a degree in econs, cum laude, have half a year working experience in consulting. male (completed ns, but yet to be called up for ns) how much should i expect if i join a stat board below?

1. lta
2. pub
3. ministry of finance

thanks.

Unregistered 08-01-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith (Post 8535)
Hi all, I am from SMU, graduated with a degree in econs, cum laude, have half a year working experience in consulting. male (completed ns, but yet to be called up for ns) how much should i expect if i join a stat board below?

1. lta
2. pub
3. ministry of finance

thanks.

Ask for at least 3.6k

gillian 08-01-2011 04:12 PM

SVP for newcomers. in mAR2011
 
hi all i just joined civil service last Oct 2010. Do i get a prorated of the SVP payout of 2010 this coming march? was looking forward to a little bit extra in march but heard newcomers don't get any.... many thanks.. gillian

gillian 08-01-2011 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 8452)
Hi,


I am fresh graduate,female from local uni without hon(haizzz).
Should i go for private sector or public sector for my first job?

What is the expected salary? $2500?

this is subjective, depend on your career plan, huney. what line u interested in?

Unregistered 08-01-2011 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gillian (Post 8541)
this is subjective, depend on your career plan, huney. what line u interested in?

Hi Gillian, I am interested in LTA. What should I expect? Tanks.

Unregistered 13-01-2011 02:23 PM

how about hospitals?
 
how about management/admin/finance/business departments in local hospitals?
Singhealth and NHG ?

Unregistered 14-01-2011 12:54 PM

4 yrs exp, 3rd cls hon, eng. Is asking $3.5k reasonable? Thanks.


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