Most teachers do their dutifully even if there are a lot to handle. It is rewarding when we see the results in our students. But it can be upsetting when not every teacher works hard together. There is perceived unfair work distribution when compared to some KPs. Maybe some KPs can really manage their time well, coffee breaks, KLKK, go home at 3pm with no bags of marking or laptop. The normal teachers are still slapped with Assistant Oral duties until past 5pm.

Then I guess you know way too few KPs to be able to come to such conclusion

Isn't oral duty for everyone? At least that is the case in my school. KP or not, everyone is involved. & KPs still have to plan for the upcoming changes to PSLE oral due to the pandemic. Stop whining. It just reflects badly on yourself. AOE duty also want to complain.

In my school, 18 teachers were assigned oral duty for this period.
This forum is for all to post their comments. You may post your comments but please do not tell others to stop whining. You don’t have to be here to hear it.

Keep whining then. Roll eyes

Depends on where your starting salary was at in the first place (Honours, NS) and how long you've been at GEO 4 (a first year GEO 4 SH would earn less than a 4th year GEO 4 SH).
A more generous range would be between 6k - 7k.

If I remember correctly, there was a change in what was offered as a starting salary from a couple of years ago. If you signed the Teacher Training Agreement in 2008, the starting salary for a male, FCH teacher was 4.1k. It was 3.8k in 2013.

Just to chip in too. I think every teacher will be assigned different duties throughout the year. I can honestly say that it's really hard to ensure equal workload among all teachers (for absolute fairness). Kinda impossible. Exam duties are still manageable tbh.

Maybe to put forth a more balanced argument...I have worked with enough KPs to see that there are many who do not show good examples of themselves in terms of being a leader.

Example? One of my colleagues was threatened just for providing simple feedback during a school wide meeting (to help and streamline certain workflow processes) by his RO. That KP saw it as creating trouble for all school staff.

More examples?

"I old already...You're younger so you should do it"

"I dunno anything about technology...Can you do it instead"

"This task is to groom you to help your career progression" (don't even know if this will materialise)

Not that we don't wish to help or learn. But the above really sounds like excuses to me. If they really feel so old or poorly skilled, shouldn't they just get out of their position and let others take it instead?

However I have also met A FEW who are really competent and are willing to guide or even work together with you towards a common goal. For these KPs, they impressed me enough for me to work hard under them, and even FOR them.

Example? I had one that prepares and gives instructions for work in advance, and periodically checks in if people under him need help. He listens to feedback and is willing to try out new ideas. Unlike some who throw work last minute without guidance and any mistake made, that poor particular teacher is held accountable.

I think MOE really need to relook at how they treat teachers.

Train teachers in mental health counselling? Nani??? Why not hire someone with a Masters in Counselling or someone who is actually a professional in mental health?

Let teachers be teachers.

Precisely! We are already wearing so many hats! Madness...

Is the counselling training for selected teachers or all teachers?

having one of the biggest if nt the biggest employees ie 30k, its easy to see why CS/PS can makan teachers. Irony...you would think they would listen more when there's more in numbers....

How to get selected for the FHQ
 

I’m not a scholar. Just normal grad. Taught for 5 years. Average grade C and some C+. A colleague of mine got selected for the Facilitated HQ posting. How can I also get selected? Thanks!

I think it's highly selective. One person I saw selected was a consistent B-grader, with high CEP.

Instead of wondering and waiting, why not apply during Open Posting instead? :)

Thank you. I’ll apply the next time round then.

Apply is one thing, get shortlisted for interview is another.

Getting the offer is the final thing.

It's very dumb. Think of it this way -

if our student is physically unwell, we don't think twice about sending them to the doctor, telling the parents to send them to the doctor, or even call an ambulance if it is an emergency. Because in school, none of us are medical professionals. We need to send them to a clinical practicioner to get their illness 'fixed'.

If our student is suspected to be mentally unwell, why does our SOP prevent us from strongly urging parents to send them to a mental health professional? Why do we want to place the responsibility of being a mental health professional on our teachers, who are not trained and qualified to play that role? Why can't we send the children to an actual clinical practicioner to get the mental illness treated?

Simple..
because our Stone Age system still does not recognise mental illness as a real illness. We only recognise physical illness as real illnesses. The system is designed with the assumption that mental illnesses can be fixed if the individual simply adjusts their own mindset. And our Stone Age senior management and political leaders don't see a need to effect a big paradigm shift that addresses the root of the problem.

They are just putting more and more band-aids on the problem.

Hello thanks for sharing - may I ask what is the annual salary you are receiving, thanks!

Around 4.5

That's odd - forummers here are saying that average salary at this level / YOE should be 5 - 5.5k???

Depends on whether you got promoted to GEO4 lor. If mainly C/C+ should still be GEO3. Difference in promo and merit increment accounts for the diff

I see, thank you for sharing. How is the spread of B and C graders in general? Teachers really deserve to be bagging higher compensation given the amount of work, stress and responsibilities entrusted to us. :(

Got C can be happy liao. the grades have quota, thus even if everyone is good, some will be better.

s://.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/teachers-appraisal-ranking-annual-salary-compensation-retention-380626

Very true.

Sometimes, KP arrow ppl to do things, they themselves never do before or cannot do.
But if KP never do before, they cannot guide properly. best if they dun guide sometimes, else makes things worse ...

Oh man that sounds shag! Thought C sounds like a fairly low score already - shouldn't B or B- be the median?

C is median. C+ is considered above average. There is no B- - which u would know if u are a teacher

yep. lotsa of jiak liao bee in the teaching service.

Sometimes, they arrow u to do but they never do before, how to guide?

If you are into teaching for the money, please look for private or group tuition.

I doubt you will even clear the interview. These days extremely competitive to be even shortlisted for interviews.

Flp
 

What’s the FLP and how to be selected for it?

A
B
C+
C
C-
D

C to C+ is what the majority will be getting

anyone here kena reservist during holidays?

this is the 2nd time i kena during my holidays. the first time during march holidays and now during my September holidays.

Anyone knows if deferment will be granted?

its super unfair that teachers who have no leave and now the only period for break is taken up by reservist

Very well said - could you share what is the driving force behind you pursuing a career in public teaching?

Fhq
 

Can anyone share when will the notice to go into HQ for FHQ posting come in?

I have gotten nothing but C- and D grades consistently for the past 4 years of teaching. Any potential repurcussions I should be watching out for?

Won’t be sacked right? Just curious.

November usually

According to MOE, C- is still considered a good grade.

Huh? Are you serious? Didn't your RO speak to you about it?

You can't apply for open posting nor closed posting. If you are looking forward to promotion, it will not happen anytime soon till you move out of C-/D for consecutive 3 years, then you will be considered for promotion. With adverse grade like this, you will not be reemployed as flexi adjunct say you decided to quit

I’m a FAJT for around 1 year in the same school. How are my chances of rejoining as a full time teacher?

Hi i used to be a flexi and recently converted to perm. I heard now it's v hard to be selected for interviews I tried 3 time and I am lucky that my ex p recommended me and therefore I have the chances to be back. Having said that now I am on a local contract for 2.4yrs before I am cosider a perm. And in this 2.5yrs my ranking is suppose to be at least a C grade .these 2 yrs I am.not entitled to connect or promotion. A x tbh I am abit regret to come back. Yeah so hope this help

Yes C-and D they will not even consider u as a relief . I got D once cos I was pregnant and had to bed rest and they gave me a D. It's been many many yrs later then I realised that they cannot even give D cos I was ok maternity leave!