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Unregistered 16-03-2023 09:49 PM

But I read from the HR policy, saying that the last day of service is 31 April to keep the PB.

Unregistered 16-03-2023 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242639)
But I read from the HR policy, saying that the last day of service is 31 April to keep the PB.

Tomorrow morning you will be able to check

Unregistered 16-03-2023 10:31 PM

I saw it is out on workpal, but the PBR statement on my workpal is blank.

Unregistered 16-03-2023 10:31 PM

do y'all who give tuition on top of public sch teaching declare tax on that

Unregistered 16-03-2023 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242619)
sure or not? moe standard how can it be delegated to be done at the school lvl

Well, it is being done at school level.

Unregistered 16-03-2023 11:11 PM

Last year I got C but only 1.1 for work done in 2021.
Started in a new school after successful open posting in 2022.
Glad to have left that toxic environment, C only gave me 1.1.
Super political place.

Unregistered 16-03-2023 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242657)
Last year I got C but only 1.1 for work done in 2021.
Started in a new school after successful open posting in 2022.
Glad to have left that toxic environment, C only gave me 1.1.
Super political place.

Your P probably doesn like u. He is the one who decided u get how much PB even your grade is C.

Unregistered 17-03-2023 12:06 AM

Hello! May I ask if I had taken maternity leave last year, will my PB be a default C, please? I took 4months without extension. Have not checked my HRP because of lagging network.

Unregistered 17-03-2023 12:06 AM

PB
 
PB’s out. B - 2.75 mnths

Unregistered 17-03-2023 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242531)
In 2022 (for work year 2021) I got 3.5 for A. It's possible, although it can change from year to year.

This year C+ lol cos just promoted sian

Yes, A can go up to 3.5. I got that last year. This year, same A grade but only 3 months. Not sure if it was my performance or the increase in total number of As and Bs given that resulted in a lower quantum.

Unregistered 17-03-2023 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242662)
Hello! May I ask if I had taken maternity leave last year, will my PB be a default C, please? I took 4months without extension. Have not checked my HRP because of lagging network.

Think it depends
I took maternity 4 months too and gotten a B

Unregistered 17-03-2023 06:43 AM

Are your grades before and after glitch the same?

Unregistered 17-03-2023 07:07 AM

A grade, GEO 5, 3 months pb

Does subgrade make a different in no of months of pb?

Unregistered 17-03-2023 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242680)
A grade, GEO 5, 3 months pb

Does subgrade make a different in no of months of pb?

Yes, SEO and superscale PB quanta will differ from GEO scale.

Unregistered 17-03-2023 07:43 AM

Merit increment
 
Hi, how will PB grades affect merit increment? Will we only see the MI in april’s salary? Thanks!

Unregistered 17-03-2023 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242589)
Sorry should be 2.2

GEO 3, A Grade, PB 3.0

Unregistered 17-03-2023 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242683)
Hi, how will PB grades affect merit increment? Will we only see the MI in april’s salary? Thanks!

The size of the MI that you get is determined mainly by three things.. your subgrade, your performance grade for that year (higher subgrade and higher perf grade, higher MI), and the distance between your current pay point to the pay ceiling of your subgrade (the smaller the distance, the smaller the MI).

There are other factors such as economic performance but those factors have a much smaller effect.

Unregistered 17-03-2023 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242679)
Are your grades before and after glitch the same?

Yea same....

Unregistered 17-03-2023 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242613)
So now that PB statement is out, all the high performance teachers come out to boast about PB is it? We're taking a break from whining about how bad it is to be a teacher. Just goes to show that performance is recognised in MOE. Just that the good ones stay quiet so the whiny ones dominate the discourse.

The point you're making (but also missing), is that in public forums like these, there will be survivor bias. The good performers are definitely the ones who like to compare more, to gauge their own performance.

But there are also those who are planning to throw letter etc after PB.

There are also those who did a lot, took a lot of arrows, but the PB didn't match their time and efforts.

I can be just a GEO4 who did school wide impactful projects, but only got a grade C with 1.5 quantum. I know perhaps any template reason can be used by KPs or SLs to justify, so there's probably no point comparing or wondering why too.

Unregistered 17-03-2023 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242009)
Annual contribution from 1 January 2023

1 to 4 years - $,9000
5 to 7 years - $,9000
8 to 10 years - $,9000
11 to 14 years - $,9000
15 to 20 years - $6,000
21 to 30 years - $3,700

Award
Length of service on 1 January 2023
or 1 January every subsequent year

4 years - $28,800
7 years - $27,500
10 years - $26,800
15 years - $39,000
20 years - $31,800
25 years - $21,200
30 years - $23,900

Refernce: s://sso.agc.gov.sg/SL/ESIPA2001-RG1?DocDate=20201001

based on the above, does it mean, those getting their first MOE connect plan amount will receive $28,800?

Unregistered 17-03-2023 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242721)
based on the above, does it mean, those getting their first MOE connect plan amount will receive $28,800?

Haha, no way. More like less than 10k. The remaining will continue to be kept in the CONNECT plan to build up for the next one

Unregistered 17-03-2023 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242721)
based on the above, does it mean, those getting their first MOE connect plan amount will receive $28,800?

moe must be really lucky to have recruited someone who trusts their published numbers so easily...dig deep enough and u will realise that not all numbers match up, as revealed by some of the posts here

not only salary, but also headcount and work hours too

anyway dont forget to happily contribute cpf and pay taxes for that amount too

Unregistered 17-03-2023 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242721)
based on the above, does it mean, those getting their first MOE connect plan amount will receive $28,800?

They can't pay you money that isn't already in your connect account.

Connect plan is like a savings account. Money is deposited every year, and withdrawal is made when you reach the milestone years.

The increase in connect plan deposits haven't take effect yet.

Only the fresh hires will get to enjoy the updated payouts, 4 years down the road.

For existing staff, the deposits in the past were lower, so payouts will be lower as well.

Is this so hard to understand?

Unregistered 17-03-2023 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242721)
based on the above, does it mean, those getting their first MOE connect plan amount will receive $28,800?

Must be BT

Unregistered 17-03-2023 02:28 PM

Why all so salty over the connect figures? What’s there to lie on MOE’s side?

9000x4 = 36000 in first four years
80% of 36000 is 28800 (first payout), hence left 7200 inside.

Year 5-7 adds 27000 + 7200= 34200 at end of year 7.
So the amount given corresponds to 80% of the amount inside.

No?

Unregistered 17-03-2023 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242731)
Why all so salty over the connect figures? What’s there to lie on MOE’s side?

9000x4 = 36000 in first four years
80% of 36000 is 28800 (first payout), hence left 7200 inside.

Year 5-7 adds 27000 + 7200= 34200 at end of year 7.
So the amount given corresponds to 80% of the amount inside.

No?

s://dollarsandsense.sg/salary-guide-much-can-earn-moe-teacher/

Scroll down to Connect plan then look at Payout

Should be abt 15k but need to minus 20% for cpf

Unregistered 17-03-2023 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242731)
Why all so salty over the connect figures? What’s there to lie on MOE’s side?

9000x4 = 36000 in first four years
80% of 36000 is 28800 (first payout), hence left 7200 inside.

Year 5-7 adds 27000 + 7200= 34200 at end of year 7.
So the amount given corresponds to 80% of the amount inside.

No?

How about for the person who will get first payout at the end of 2023?
$ 18,960 in the kitty and for 2024, the contribution will be another $9,000; Total will be $27,960. So 80% of $27,960 will be $22, 368 - payout on 12/2023?

Unregistered 17-03-2023 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242736)
How about for the person who will get first payout at the end of 2023?
$ 18,960 in the kitty and for 2024, the contribution will be another $9,000; Total will be $27,960. So 80% of $27,960 will be $22, 368 - payout on 12/2023?

Pls read as for 2023, the contribution will be another $9,000

Unregistered 17-03-2023 02:44 PM

Connect plan is just to make you stay longer in teaching while your market value drops day by day outside teaching.

Go figure

Unregistered 17-03-2023 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242733)
s://dollarsandsense.sg/salary-guide-much-can-earn-moe-teacher/

Scroll down to Connect plan then look at Payout

Should be abt 15k but need to minus 20% for cpf

Following text from Dollar & Sense also:

MOE has also indicated that the CONNECT Plan will be enhanced. Starting from 2023, there will be an overall enhancement of about 20%, and the annual deposit quantum and payout ratio will be raised to better support teachers in the earlier years of their careers.

Assuming a linear 20% increase, this will be an estimated payout of $18,240 at the first payout year (an increase of $3,040), $28,800 at the second payout year (an increase of $4,800), and so forth, for a total of $202,560 (an increase of $33,760). Given that the enhancement is intended to better support teachers in their early careers, it is possible that the CONNECT plan will be adjusted to have a higher payout in the first few payout years. This will only be confirmed in 2023 when the CONNECT plan is officially enhanced.

youngbeing123 17-03-2023 03:13 PM

How?
 
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242680)
A grade, GEO 5, 3 months pb

Does subgrade make a different in no of months of pb?

How do u even get an A grade? What did you do last year? Are you a KP on GEO 5?

youngbeing123 17-03-2023 03:15 PM

How?
 
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242612)
I Got an A with 3.4 this year
Last year B with 2.7

What did u do to get an A???

youngbeing123 17-03-2023 03:20 PM

Arrogant attitude of better performing teachers on this forum
 
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242707)
The point you're making (but also missing), is that in public forums like these, there will be survivor bias. The good performers are definitely the ones who like to compare more, to gauge their own performance.

But there are also those who are planning to throw letter etc after PB.

There are also those who did a lot, took a lot of arrows, but the PB didn't match their time and efforts.

I can be just a GEO4 who did school wide impactful projects, but only got a grade C with 1.5 quantum. I know perhaps any template reason can be used by KPs or SLs to justify, so there's probably no point comparing or wondering why too.

My title says it all. Esp those criticizing against GEO5 who dont do enough by ppl hell bent on climbing. As if its possible for ALL teachers to climb. This ranking **** is a zero sum game and inadvertently demoralizes the average performer who is doing the real job of educating ppl.
KPs get off loaded from normal classes etc. mark less etc. aren't the normal teachers the one who gets the real work done? See what happens if all teachers become ambitious and start doing all the school planning work, and dont give enugh time and attention to individual kids. See what parents will say.
For now i hope that parents of kids being taught by these ambitious teachers complain against them

Unregistered 17-03-2023 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242739)
Following text from Dollar & Sense also:

MOE has also indicated that the CONNECT Plan will be enhanced. Starting from 2023, there will be an overall enhancement of about 20%, and the annual deposit quantum and payout ratio will be raised to better support teachers in the earlier years of their careers.

Assuming a linear 20% increase, this will be an estimated payout of $18,240 at the first payout year (an increase of $3,040), $28,800 at the second payout year (an increase of $4,800), and so forth, for a total of $202,560 (an increase of $33,760). Given that the enhancement is intended to better support teachers in their early careers, it is possible that the CONNECT plan will be adjusted to have a higher payout in the first few payout years. This will only be confirmed in 2023 when the CONNECT plan is officially enhanced.

Yup, will increase by about 20%. Remember to set up SRS to make contributions to reduce amount of tax for that year. Otherwise your income might overflow to the next tax bracket

Unregistered 17-03-2023 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242747)
Yup, will increase by about 20%. Remember to set up SRS to make contributions to reduce amount of tax for that year. Otherwise your income might overflow to the next tax bracket

Anyone promoted to SEO 1 in April this year?

Unregistered 17-03-2023 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242750)
Anyone promoted to SEO 1 in April this year?

Promotion list out already? I think most Ps will only inform after the holidays.

Unregistered 17-03-2023 04:38 PM

How much merit increment for B grader?

Unregistered 17-03-2023 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242753)
Promotion list out already? I think most Ps will only inform after the holidays.

Praying hard I am called and tell me I’m promoted

Unregistered 17-03-2023 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242758)
Praying hard I am called and tell me I’m promoted

Lol. If never promote this year, will quit?

Unregistered 17-03-2023 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 242757)
How much merit increment for B grader?

Would like to know also, GEO3 here.


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