There are no engineers working here. Just managers. During a recent townhall one of our engineer asked the senior management what is his advice for engineers to excel in this company. He said something along the line of don't be afraid to take risk. When opportunity comes, seize it.

Alot of our engineers resigned after that to seize better opportunity out there.
I guess our senior management are just as tone deaf as clueless.

No wonder alot of managers here have the same zombie yes sir attitude in front of boss and talk **** behind their back. It's so ugly.

Whats the expected increment for e5 to e6 this year?

Average increment this year is said to be 4 to 5 percent according to the news so 5 to 7 percent for the promotion?

Band 2 - 2.5% increment nia, last year 2.7/2.8 for the same Band...lei.....drop...

Lai lai, share increments and promotions

Band 2, 2.5%. Chui to the max. Don't know what this company is doing. Earn money but cut increment.

2.5% not bad liao lo

next door only 1%

You are right. My former division had a team that quit entirely. The management simply pass the workload to another already stretched out team. Then they questioned why so many people left.

So can post more profits for shareholders or expand their acquisitions.

Fixed increment % for everyone in the same band? I thought within the same band also got a spread

E5 4.5% increment for band 2 grading

Next door = Apple? /s

Is it good to stay in STE for promotion ?
 

How soon does one get promoted anyways ?
Do they value past work experience and take that into consideration?

How’s the increment like?

ProMotion from E5 to E6 usually within 2-4 years.
Subsequent performance depends on pre-sales ability. Winning tenders and participating in tenders have better recognition than successfully delivering projects. There are a lot of engineers stucked at E6 at 50 years old.

The only work experience they would pay above market rate is experience in leading a uniform service unit. ST in general pays below market rate, below the 25th percentile. Your only hope of getting a salary increment from job hopping is that your previous company pays similar scale or even lower than ST.

Increment usually 1-5%, unless your dept boss willing to write in for recommendation for merit increment which can range between 3-10%. Bonus also between 1 to 3.5 months. Those whom are on contract, has 1 month less bonus than perm staff. Those switching from contract to perm will usually have 0 increment on their new contract.

previous poster talking about hardware roles? software roles typically promote e5 to e6 in 2-3 years nowdays and e6 to m1 in about 4 years? top performers have more than 5% of increment and double digit percent for promotions.

What I said is true for being a good performer from e5. It is true HR counts wearing a uniform daily to work as relevant experience though, especially for m2 and above roles. defence contracts are cash cows and they do it so often to mask kickbacks

What is the increment % for the different bands?

2 to 4 years for promotion is already very good. Because my former division played favourites, whoever is not in the pet team can expect a promotion between 5-7 years on average, longer if too many M1/2s around. The only exception I saw are those exceptional (clever) in solving issues.

Stone age company. Dare to offer me job with significant paycut for 'new international office'. Cannot promise any career trajectory. Hear culture inside is rotten to the core.

Just a rant post:

I really don’t like how some managers think they big shot and then go around demanding others to sacrifice their personal time to settle work because they incapable. Best joke: the manager is from a different division so should not even boss people around.

Any tricks on handling such bitches? Especially the aunties one

Similar experience before.

PM: I don't care if the whole team needs to come back on the weekends to finish up everything. I want it by Sunday night.

Same PM: I'm not free this weekend, I'm going JB.

why do u care? Just inform ur current PM and ask whether to comply lo

What happens if whole team don't come back? Fire you?

When he depends on u to do the work so that he can keep his job, u're the one with leverage over him, not the other way round

This PM was the boss pet. His problem, even if he made the wrong strategic call, became our fault. He got promoted while the rest got nothing from clearing his mess.

ST's management staffs are outdated. Stuck in their outdated mentality. Probably just wanna squeeze them out because they are afraid for themselves being outwitted.

I heard STE policy change. No more outsource contract. All direct ste employee now and salary adjustments 500-1k,2k. AMK side

It is true. Across all STE there would be an adjustment, some got it earlier some will have soon.

Wah those newly joined e5 with 5k will get adjusted again ar? Shioks

They recently revised S Grade staffs. Now they are rolling out E grade staffs.

If they have done so few years back, they would not have lost so much talents in the last few years.

HR probably need to buck up, need to close up the gap of salary between staffs grade to be more competitive

If the news of no more outsourced staff is accurate, it's a step in the right direction.

When I was there, many new hires quit within the first 2 years because they were unhappy with the blatant distinction between perm and contract staff.

Now a lot want to join back ste from what I heard. Their pay now I think finally matches market rate

The challenge is not at this point, is whether they can keep up with the increments to match market rates in time to time.

Is this revamp pay to ST Elec only or to all LOBs?

Don't spread fake news la.
Its based on project one. Some project is signed. And on going for the next 10 years. Those getting the perm treatment cause HR under pressure to fill up those position for contractual obligation.

Almost anyone who showed up for interview got it. My boss didn't even look at anything just want a feel of the personality of the guy whether can manage him or not.

Those hired as pet for seniors. Like their secretary do their work for them. No real project kind...
Those are outsource meant to be short term.

That's how it works. Always.

i keep in close contact with my ex colleagues and they are still looking to leave LOL

mainly because even with the revision, there is still a huge disparity of pay and workload between other teams

only the lazy one choosing to stay and produce minimal results

What to do if Colleagues are stinking up office ?
 

Probably gonna get bashed up due to this post. But I seriously wonder how do some like to spray perfume and flood the whole office with their “stench”. Is there some policy in place to ensure work place safety?

When will the revamp salary be introduced

I think this salary adjustment may still not appease everyone until it is v significant. You can have engineers working there for 4-6 years earning just slighty more than the fresh grads.

Scary stuff
 

Very political one working here. Got a PhD super smart. No wait. He thinks he is super smart and everyone else around him is stupid. To the point that meeting he has repeat his point multiple times like we are dumb children.

Anyway Covid-19, he got laid off from his division but they tried to make it like he was transferred to another division. He was laid off then offered a position in another division.

From day one he joined the existing division manwhement already play politics on him.
Purposely suppress his hiring abilities. Restrict his access to this and that.

Then when he said he need to form a team etc the admin purposely delay finding people with the excuse that there is no candidate. Until eventually HR just give him some random candidates who failed interview, those second interview candidates with no relevant background.

Long story short, they joined. Treated as outside and not part of the fivision.
Admin keep reminding us that he and his team is not part of our division.
Its BU level whatever that means.

Anyway his team all resigned. Today he is alone.
So sad right. But nope. This is how the organisation here worked.

On BTW he is AVP title. And the VP and SVP title here all worked like 30 years in this division.
And he come in newbie one year wanna disrupt everything.

Kena played politics also didn't know.

Anyway that guy is not good also, just always hold meeting.
And talk down on people. Or sarcastic remarks on other colleagues. To the point that ppl actively avoid him.

He even threatened to pull someone from their team into his because he like to...
Everyone avoiding him like a plague.

This is what happens when you have high qualification. Zero EQ. And zero allies.
Now it's just a waiting game for his to resign or quit willingly.

Because this is how politics are played in this company.
People in power keep getting promoted to get more power.
So they see anyone a threat is efficiently dealt with.

Any idea what’s the entry grade for fresh diploma grad

Should be E4, Asst Engineer.