[QUOTE=Unregistered;272540]ntu what course, mech eng, eee all these dumping ground 3rd class is 3k to low 4ish. CS still got high 4k to 5k.

Yeah STE depends on where you go also

Is there a place where one can rant about how “good” / “bad” STE is ?

I got approached by a headhunter for a role as e5
I don't know what's that. I'm wondering if this is worth my time to attend if they shortlist
me for interview. How's the Aws and bonus in st?
I'm now working as Principal Engineer in a US MNC 8.8k per month excluding travel allowance of 300, AWS bonus which usually adds up to 1.5 month. Dip holder with 15 years experience.

that one sure not headhunter leh. anyone recommend job to you

No way E5 can match that kind of pay. Need minimum M1. That recruiter is probably mass farming dip holders.

Principal Engineer in STE is M2, E5 is entry level engineer. The headhunter either does not know their requirement or has no idea what your specialisation is by offering you 4 levels below your current paygrade.

STE based a staff salary based on education level. You can be established in your field as a diploma holder with 10 - 15 years of experience and they can offer a sub-5K salary package.

Yes kind of shock by that.
Even my current HR from Philippines also couldn't understand.
They limit their possibilities just by a piece of paper rather than what that person can deliver.

What's so shocking about?
That's the right way of doing things.
If dip holders can promote faster than Deg holders just because they are more competent
Then who wants to take degree?

I think that's a uniquely ST attitude problem. Completely missed the point of finding the best talent for the job.
You hire someone because that person has the best chance of delivering results
Not because he has a better degree.
Even my HR from overseas find the Singaporean ideology to tie everything to a paper qualification very peculiar.

This is the mindset then. Every degree should shake leg and perform adequately only. Diploma start from e4. Work their way up, why put them more disadvantage by limiting them to m1

I'm sure these are not normal companies that face real Profit and loss on a daily basis.

I wonder how many people will resign today

the usual attrition rates haha. life goes on

Why ask such a question? I thought the company is good?

Yea, good to retire and resign. Just tendered, my boss say can wait till replacement. Haha, told him i using up my remaining mc as i feeling sick of the job.

Why STE management always ask can wait till replacement come or not...

Why STE management always ask customer can close one eye or not?

Mind i ask which company and role u moving to? Got huge pay jump?

Same pay. But I in mid 30s. So good to go now. Come back at 50

So true... since the majority of the works are done by intern or diploma holders ><

STE hire ex-convicts?
 

My boss recently hired a ex-convict possible?

Because no one wants to join hahaha

customer is almost invariably govt or SAF.

close one eye, cuz after your mandatory retiremement and you end up in ST cuz nobody else wants you, you want to kena karma meh?

hahahaha.

I find those MNC very funny de
In st, even as fresh grad, I can apply to be a program manager or senior engineer if I have a bachelor degree
In those mnc, all my applications hit the wall. One agency even told me to be realistic.
Program manager is higher than project manager so need at least 5 years experience.
Senior engineers also need 5 years experience.

anyone know the average promotion timeline for E5 onwards?

You got a timeline?
What??
MNCs promote you if you value add or have the right connections.
They won't give you a time line that you can follow and rise, like the
Longer you work the higher you climb till your terminal rank. That's stupid
A breeding ground for lazy unmotivated bums.

Those that has been there 20 years and above. Let me describe them. Too comfortable, afraid to move, know that they wont survive outside , afraid people outside is smarter, afraid of changes, even if company B were to offer them way higher, they wont go, not because of job security but afraid of competition. Because all the smart ones would have left. the lousy one stay, that is their competition. Very old mentality and will never adapt new ways of doing things.

Typing this, because i was one of them, came in e5 became e6 within 2 years, m1 within 3 years, m2 within 3 years. I took the plunge and left after making a decision not to work under an army personnel. I struggled at first, but pull up my socks. Now i might be an Zhuo bo m3 or a staff engineer in a manufacturing sector. i choosed the latter. in my 40s but did not regret my decision.

Lau Puay Hui of ST Infosec Senior Principal Engineer, can you stop acting in such a selfish manner? Your habit of agreeing to every client demand, even the unreasonable ones, puts unnecessary pressure on the rest of us. We end up working tirelessly to meet unrealistic deadlines that don't make sense. Even when we voice our concerns, you dismiss them, insisting that we empathize with your position. It's frustrating to see you prioritize your own interests without considering the toll it takes on the team's well-being. Several of us are struggling with mental health issues due to the constant pressure of your approach. Yet, you seem indifferent to our suffering as long as the deadlines are met. You continually rely on us to help you meet these demands, leaving us feeling overwhelmed and disregarded. It's clear that you only care about your own agenda and disregard the feelings of others!

Transfer to another Cyber BU? What makes you think your RO will be on this forum even to read your frustrations.

Alternatively you can always resign since collect bonus liao.

Resign and change job. Dumb people post here and expect something.

Pretty sure that's not the purpose of the post, but more like telling the public how bad the person is.

To that person that complain about that person, don't worry I'll find ways to forward it on other public forums. 😁

Cyber is the worst place, never seen before.
Workplace bullying, micro management, act smart but cmi

Most of senior management level here, the only comment for them is speechless.

Nowadays, many software development tools like Jira, Jenkins, Gitlab and etc. are quite common.
(for some tools, more than 10 years already)
But during recent update and townhall, senior management very happy to announced "we will use these tools in future works..."

Lol
 

My therapist say mental health is our own responsibility. Nobody is in your head other than your own mind. Don't struggle. Don't act. Work like today is your last week. Period.

Cmi
 

Cyber security engineers higher paid according to HR because of market rate.
Then do the work.
Complain so much for what.
Maybe, you, yourself and your team all cmi too.

Their pay is highest and their bonus is also the highest. Since we are talking about this, be careful of cyber when you’re around them. Had bad experience with cyber engineer while on site , their speech and actions are a little out of the norm.

Is it cos of high stress that comes with the job scope?

I’ve worked with some of their cybersec folks in a project. Throughout the lifespan of the project, their engineers quit entirely leaving only the project manager. This happened twice. So despite receiving the highest bonus within ST, you can’t really compensate for the culture there.

That's because years ago they were unwilling to implement company-wide due to cost most likely.