Please la. all those posting 2-3 mins is stealing money from company. What you guys doing here surfing the net spending that 2-3mins? don't check your phone for the whole day la. company pay u to do work not check your phone or fb or Instagram. don't act like you all did your diligent when you guys are just as bad or even worst. Act diligent but rotten from inside. That's what the company is about.

Aiyo. I'm in toilet pccing need to surf Internet to get some inspiration and feeling.

toilet for u to pee and ****. PCC wasting that 2-3 mins is stealing from the company. very logical, can pcc in toliet for 2-3 or whatever mins. cannot go home 2-3 minutes earlier.

Please la. Office hours until 6pm doesn't mean you cannot eat snake.
What's worse you just come back from meeting at 558 pm see all your staff all disappeared. Haven't even 6 pm.

Or your staff playing their phone but still visible at 6pm.

Illusion is important you know..
Hawker open until 6pm means still take order at 558pm but hawker don't have to be 8 hours on the feet cooking.
No customer then rest. Sit down lo.

Pcc 3 min man sia.
I pcc takes 30 minutes. Enjoy build up.

See? typical ST mentality. See you in office at your desk = do work and productive. Never see you at your desk = not working and not productive. eat snake also must eat at your desk till 6pm. read how other company operate and upgrade yourself and your mentality please. Its people like you that make working in ST a living hell.

But how can you be working if you're walking out of office at 558 pm to catch the shuttle bus.
Hehehe.

how can you be working if you are PCC-ing in toilet, surfing this forum, playing your mobile phones, staring into blind space at your desk etc?

No wonder you got marked la. Leave early and work not done..

"I leave on time or at most 15 minutes more because of bus timing."

Didn't know leaving 15 minutes later is akin to leaving 15 minutes early.

Such actions are quite prevalent in ST. Not sure why no one frowned on it or make an issue out of it. Perhaps too many old perm staff will be affected.

Then why you kena marked and affected your increment, bonus, promotion then?
Weird sia.

No idea how promotion is decided by the management but they usually promote those who interface with KAH of their customers. The rest are considered support and to the management, these teams do not add value or not doing work because there were so many issues that weren't resolved.

For my case, if the engineering teams cannot deliver, I can't do anything because my work has to involve the physical product. There's only so much admin work and documents I can do. So when the delays hit a few project, I can literally sit there for weeks (record was 3 months) and just help around with mundane stuff. When the teams finally deliver, I have to rush 3 to 4 projects at once. My job literally involves rush to wait (finish admin stuff), wait to rush (after physical products are completed).

So, I looked like I'm either not doing anything, or cannot finish due to all the sudden influx of work. Our team has requested to get one more headcount to help, management rejected. Instead they say ask around see who can help (even offered our HR admin) when my role needs specific technical knowledge. All suggestions to management to improve our product lifecycle in general were rejected.

My supervisor tried to promote 2 twice but both times were rejected with some lame excuses like problems that's beyond my scope (like blaming software engineer for hardware issue). So I decided enough was enough and it's time to leave this place.

Can’t reveal la.. i’m also a fresh grad and currently my 8th month with the company. They passed on a few projects for me to handle and i’m pretty much the main ‘lead’ so therefore stressful and have to stay late so that I can meet deadlines.. I do see other departments just opposite from me, leaving on the dot and coming in late. Pretty envious of them man....

Overworked young man

Only you in your team overworked? How about the rest?

is the work you are doing now will benefit your future prospect and good value in it? if yes, stay until the work that you do does not benefit anymore or at least 2 - 3 years and leave. This is what i did when i have little experience, and the next job that i hop to give me a 30% more ;)

I agree with this advice. Ask your boss whether got new project / technology / process etc coming up in the next 1-2 years. If there are new technologies or processes, check if there are courses for you to go. If no, just tahan doing the current projects and processes until you are certain nothing else to learn. After that can start to look around for new opportunities.

The problem is when we request to learn new thing or do new project, it is an "ADD ON" to your current job scope, instead of you remove 1 old project you are doing, and then you take in 1 new project.........in the end cannot cope.....overload yourself, which is stupid

Take two more. Whole team stay till 9

In china we do 9-9-6
9am to 9pm six days a week

Like that can learn and promote

Sure. Asking salary will be 10k for project engineer then.

"We" ?? Please go back to where you came from.

I think by now you should know there's nothing called "remove" in ST. Status quo is the best you can get. Take the new projects if it allows you to learn and grow. Or make use of this opportunity to wayang in front of the bosses, especially if you are the project manager or engineer. You will see yourself climb the ladder.

Trust me on this. When I was still in ST, my team and I got sabotaged by wayang project managers and engineers. They got all the promotion by sending lots of finger pointing emails and we got all the blames and craps.

Yes. This is not only in ST.
Every company out there.
Facebook. Shopee. Govtech. Byte dance. Google. Amazon.

It's the same. Where there is work, there is conflict.
As for promotion, the proven method is you pray in CNY for wealth. Or burn incense.. That's your best bet to getting ahead at work. If you not Buddhist, then Christian I believe is pay tithe to church right? Pay 10% for blessing. Other religion own practices.

But that said, if you start your own company etc. Also same thing your employees all just want to leech from you. Like razer boss notorious for being ruthless and dictatorship.

This is life. Can't escape.
So best motto is no chup.

That's why people want to retire mah!!! Retirement basically mean don't have to give a ****..
But then same thing retiree, you go holiday or what. Also subject to wayang.aorline overbooked.
Package overpriced etc

Same thing if you billionaires. Government come for you from tax.
People target you and your family for crime.

No escape.

Nah this advice is the worst advice.
My colleague recently shared with me that his staff under him wanted to transfer to another team etc cause he prefer a different environment etc.

Guess what happened? My colleague blacklist him. Bluff him stay for 1 year to learn...
Then gave him bad performance to give him low increment and don't give him chance to transfer.

People hire you to do the job. Go thru so many obstacles.. Then you want to be transferred to another more glamorous department... Use us as stepping stone.

Boss hate it when their staff keep asking for pgoreaa etc. Nobody can give you extra bonus la. It's all pre determined. Nobody wants to do the job.

Only fresh grad all excited want high pay fast etc. Thinking do more means more pay.
Only those seniors know "don't want more work, you can give me less increment I'm fine."

Means you and your "colleague" are the same level. Stepping stone for progression?? I don't think so. More to the staff doing more work and hit the boss KPI to use as stepping stone... If you practice a healthy working environment, nobody will want to leave.

People leave bosses not leaders/organization.

Here's a thought, we. Me and my colleague also stuck at this department.
Need help do hire fresh grad. Haven't even 1 year want to transfer out.

Abit waste our time to train and retrain.
This id also why we don't promote new people.
Promote for what if they going to leave

On the other hand, if a staff stayed for 6 years, no promotion, no progression, nothing new to learn, they might also leave. On top of that, all the sweet talks but no genuine intention to retain staff.

While I agree these days some fresh grads attitude leave much to be desired, there are certainly good staff out there grinding for the company for years without any form of encouragement by the management. In this case, not only the staff attitude matters. The transparency and fair consideration shown by the management to groom and retain staff is very important.

If one fresh grad wants to transfer out within a year, maybe that's his problem. If it occurs often even to experienced hires, somewhere there is something wrong with the department which is not realised by the management.

You all already wrong to assume ST intention is to groom talent.
All the position of power is already taken up by long timer. They won't relinquish their power and position

They just need cheap willing labor to do the work and when things go wrong as a scapegoat.
No intention to groom engineer to be become division manager la.

All those VP, svp, avp all those role already reserved for own gang liao

Which is why I say everyone can see through the sweet talks to "retain talent" because what they promised and what eventually takes place are two different stories.

I used to have a colleague who was very experienced and hardworking. Lead many projects with high customer satisfaction. This colleague was headhunted by another MNC with supposedly good salary and progression.

Few years on, the bosses feel that this former colleague would fit well into a leadership role given the experience with the past projects and existing role at the MNC. Somehow they knew this colleague was leaving for another MNC so they tried to get this person back. They almost succeed, until the role was given away to the big boss favourite. End up the offer was only an M2 grade as a team lead and not M3 grade as manager and of course, reduced remuneration. This former colleague ended up joining with the other MNC which counter-offered.

The funniest thing was the bosses can bad mouth about this ex-colleague not keeping to the end of the promise.

You see the way they reorg la. From the investor point of view or from the ceo perspective its like. Reorganisation of the whole company structure... Make it sounds so interesting....

But practically it's just a legal name change. Same office. Same location. Same people. Different boss, different reporting officer, different legal name, different job title but same pay

you forgot to include more work too. Engineers are basically getting stretched out across more projects than before.. justification was to "save cost"

Agreed.

Why need to promote people to VP, SVP or AVP. Just look at the current structure. How many key leadership positions are truly "groom" by ST. Mostly are parachuted from SAF or government bodies. Alot are retired generals, no where to go so park at senior management of ST. Not sure what are the exact revenue they are bringing to ST. But i'm sure they are bring the SAF and military culture to ST.

With those people parachuting taking up position and middle management no where to go. How to promote people?

Why need promotion..

This is very true. Also, the benefits during the previous President tenure compared to the guy parachuted in was heaven and earth in comparison.

is there bonus ?

Yes. Bonus is you still have a job

wow not bad, any openings recently?

How is ST satellite systems? I just applied there. Any idea in the job grade for engineer?