ST is ST. all the same.

engineer is e5.

ST is either you are fighting fire and working OT everyday due to bad management or zhu bo lan everyday as the upper management also dun give a **** due to bad management.

other exception, never happen to me before.

what is external office politics by dsta? can anyone give some examples?

means give u little to work with and expect the best. if not you will be noosed.

who's the new guy?

whoa st so toxic wan ah; no wonder everyone wan to siam st

cannot be so bad la. ic a few ex colleagues go join st leh 🤷*♂️

Depend on the position, engineer turnover is high but senior management hardly change

Its good for retirement la. Aka come to office have meeting. Quarrel. Push here and there. Go home.

Not good for engineers who get no support to deliver project.

Everyday just hear management pester the higher few engineers to bring in business.
But isn't brining in the business job is those senior management? That's why their pay is so high what?

In short you can feel like u as an engineer are doing the technical work (research), the support work (email from client or internal customer how this work. How that work) the logistic work (delivery guy, location, space, storage), also project management (PowerPoint for boss so your boss can use your update to update to his boss). And to top that also project tender (gather requiment for new project, costing)...

And you wonder. Senior management those with their office and title like vice president or director is do what one ah. Then ask them need more manpower...

You can ask from day to night always same excuse. Either covid hiring freeze. Or no candidate or no budget. Or cannot find people. And you're doing all this while you take home pay only 4k plus while your senior manager take home what? 10k? Drive nice car to work. While you hustle and bustle in the mrt...

If you're engineer don't join. If you're project manager, talk only good. Then can join cause this company full of this kind of people

Engineer quit then no replacement.
So engineer take on more work.

Boss newly appointed as VP want to look good for his kpi so don't approve new hire.
Project cost quote 5 engineers work on it. But only left 1 engineer during the crunch time.

Profit from not hiring 5 engineers trickle into senior management bonus when their profit margin kpi is met. On top of their already hire base salary.

1 engineer doing 5 peoples work. Base salary also not competitive.
So one day he wake up and quit.

And the cycle of life repeats.

Sure or not one person do five person work. Why still be there then

Charge customer is quote 5 man per day.
But only hire 2.
1 quit. Left only 1 to do everything.

Management reasoning is... Requiment phase have 5 engineers also they have nothing to do.
Testing phase they say don't need full resources. Delivery just 1 person.

So end up cut cost hire 2 as standby. When 1 quit no replacement. So end up 1 person literally do everything. From the start to the end. No support.

Then tell management critical phase the development phase...
Their excuse can't find candidate or no one coming for interview..

You hire people way before the critical phase. Please. Need learning curve. Time etc... Training.
Management style is all about saving money. That's all.

When can't deliver, problems, complain. Then it's the engineers fault.
Management need to face the customer first hand then they are accountable.

Otherwise they just sit in their throne office room and manage by updates and cut cost only.

Tell management the most effective way of cutting cost is to cut their pay cause they cost the most in any department. Nahahaha

Have this M5/M6 program manager. Pre covid period take business class fly here and there for project meetings. reach meeting room, sit there like a king, eat buffet with customer, don't even have a paper and pen with him. Didn't say a word or make any contribution about the project during meeting. E5 & E6 engineers busy taking down notes and minutes. After come back Singapore, forward the minutes E5 E6 took down as travel report. End of M5/M6 holiday trip with business class flight.

Money well spent.

Is ST a good place for fresh grads engineering role? I’ve been offered a position at close to $4k salary.

Is it worth it to stay long there (progression and salary wise)?

I aim to draw $10k salary in 7 years time - feasible? Otherwise whats a feasible salary that I should be looking at?

Year 1 - $4000
Year 2 - $4120 (3% increment)
Year 3 - $4532 (10% increment - Promotion)
Year 4 - $4668 (3% increment)
Year 5 - $5135 (10% increment - Promotion)
Year 6 - $5289 (3% increment)
Year 7 - $5818 (10% increment - Promotion)

3% yearly increment is very optimistic. Every 2 year promote 1 time with 10% increment is nearly impossible. You are not even close to $10k. Do your math and Time to wake up from your dream.

You should go back to uni for another 4 years nus comp science then try to get FCH.
By projection, comp science fresh grad starting pay in 4 years should hit 10k.

Better yet. Should just keep studying in uni then only graduate when comp science hit the peak.
In the mean time can grab delivery.

4k not bad sia.
The HR guidance for fresh grad like 2 to 3 years back is around 3.6k since now 13th month added into base... You lucky sia. Instead of 3.9k you got 4k.increment by 100 so that's 2.5% increment before even starting work. Not bad sia

My colleagues 3 years working in ST liao. He joined 3.5k now only he reached 4.2k.
You instantly 4k. The salary is very weird.

So the annual salary increment at ST I assume is at 3%?

Based on your illustrated calculation, I think job hop May give me a better chance to reach my target.

I heard other fresh grads holding a better cert getting as much as $5k as starting salary.

Anyone knows what’s the bonuses and salary increment like in ST?

2021 have bonus or not? Tia Kong 2020 no bonus nothing

Last year also don’t want to give increment liao, increment even if $100 also cheaper than giving even 0.5 month bonus ba?
I think bonus no hope

Bonus? If got bonus also all go to the senior management first.
Oh wait they already pay cut.

They pay cut give you bonus ah?
No way lo.
That's why my boss already say this year go low power mode.
Just do work at 30% capacity.

Work so hard this year no reward.
Only stupid. So many people WFH.
Or staggered hours come late leave early...

If you haven't started to slack, it's not too late.
If don't know how to slack, I teach you...

8 hours per day work. Work only 2 hours. The rest of the 6 hours play mobile game.

Cannot be no bonus.
I everyday come to work even during the covid-19 period le.
I'm essential staff. Must have bonus

This is not right man.

No right, no wrong. It's just is.
This is the way

Essential that's why you managed to keep your job mah, who promise you bonus also?

Don't pin too much hope on this company la.

Ya lo. My director boss. Working hours is supposed to be 930 am to 7 pm cause staggered working hours now mah...

But I just saw him taking the lift down to his car. Go home liao... Even earlier than those who is 730 am to 5 pm schedule...

He very sly one. Pretend going for meeting but is go home.
Where got people start meeting at 5pm

no bonus meh?

Sometimes morning he will carry laptop come office at 10 am pretend like he just came from meeting.
We ask the admin, she also just smile.... Cause she also dunno he go what meeting.

But we all know is he pattern one la. The admin is the earliest also didn't see him at all...
Once or twice we understand...

But so frequent until we also can detect his pattern.. No one to hold director accountable...

Got Bonus?

the bonus is usually announced during which month?

By now no announcement can forget it already, tender resignation with confidence and conviction!

Wow. Found new role? Just tender with conviction lol

Last year it seems to be March?

Bonus at ST usually how many months?

Salary increment usually how many %?

1 month bonus.
2.5 to 3%

Today will announce bonus?

No bonus. I heard.

Then do grading for what? Waste time waste productivity.