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Unregistered 30-06-2021 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 175480)
What?? ST retrenched recently?? Then what happened to those who have been having a good life as the in house JLB? How can they find a new job?
there is no retrenchment, those that have golden handshake are all hired by "st external vendor"

Unregistered 30-06-2021 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 176105)
where do people jump to after st? most i heard is go LTA. the skill set used in st is so random, never use those 8D or FMEA or whatever normal engineering methods to solve problem. everything problem just ask customer can close eye or not.

i am underpaid as fk. 3year working exp (2 years in ST), promoted this year but am E5 getting below 3.3k mthly, am st contract with 0.5mth bonus, and best of all i have band 1 grading for 2 years. my previous bonus also 0.5mth. i can show proof to mods for my below 3.3k salary, 0.5mth bonus and band 1

i signed my st contract, but really felt 2 years wasted for nothing.
hahaha, i left ST and restarted my career bro, also 2 yr wasted. i am like a sai gang warrior, fight fire here and there, whatever **** also touch abit. when i go interview, they say my exposure not deep enough to be senior......

Unregistered 30-06-2021 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 176105)
where do people jump to after st? most i heard is go LTA. the skill set used in st is so random, never use those 8D or FMEA or whatever normal engineering methods to solve problem. everything problem just ask customer can close eye or not.

i am underpaid as fk. 3year working exp (2 years in ST), promoted this year but am E5 getting below 3.3k mthly, am st contract with 0.5mth bonus, and best of all i have band 1 grading for 2 years. my previous bonus also 0.5mth. i can show proof to mods for my below 3.3k salary, 0.5mth bonus and band 1

i signed my st contract, but really felt 2 years wasted for nothing.
Which field are you in?

Unregistered 02-07-2021 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 175795)
will be out next monday
how do you know it will be out next monday? through email?

Unregistered 05-07-2021 12:15 AM
E5 5k fresh grad offer with tech job scope... seems to be above average from what I see around here. Worth taking the offer and jump after 2 years?

Unregistered 05-07-2021 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 176842)
E5 5k fresh grad offer with tech job scope... seems to be above average from what I see around here. Worth taking the offer and jump after 2 years?
Software engineering? Which school did you go to? Local uni or private uni?

Unregistered 05-07-2021 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 176842)
E5 5k fresh grad offer with tech job scope... seems to be above average from what I see around here. Worth taking the offer and jump after 2 years?
Don't bomberman here la.

Unregistered 05-07-2021 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 176107)
there is no retrenchment, those that have golden handshake are all hired by "st external vendor"
All of them or internal staffs as well? Because the news sounds confusing.

Unregistered 05-07-2021 04:00 PM
Increment barely cover global inflation rate. Sianz.

Unregistered 05-07-2021 04:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 176105)
where do people jump to after st? most i heard is go LTA. the skill set used in st is so random, never use those 8D or FMEA or whatever normal engineering methods to solve problem. everything problem just ask customer can close eye or not.

i am underpaid as fk. 3year working exp (2 years in ST), promoted this year but am E5 getting below 3.3k mthly, am st contract with 0.5mth bonus, and best of all i have band 1 grading for 2 years. my previous bonus also 0.5mth. i can show proof to mods for my below 3.3k salary, 0.5mth bonus and band 1

i signed my st contract, but really felt 2 years wasted for nothing.
8D and FMEA are very commonly used engineering methods.
8D is for problem solving
FMEA comes in design or process objective which assesses risks of design / process to coordinate a follow up action to reduce the risk computed by a predefined scoring system.
Asking customers to 'close eye' in the normal world is as good as disrespecting their rights to good quality goods.

How can this even be something to consider for any professional with self respect? What a disgrace to all engineers.

Unregistered 05-07-2021 05:56 PM
What's the salary increment range for band 2?

Unregistered 05-07-2021 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 176933)
Increment barely cover global inflation rate. Sianz.
you got 3.5%? So good ah...

Unregistered 05-07-2021 07:42 PM
How much is the increment?

Unregistered 05-07-2021 09:56 PM
Performance appraisal
 
Anyone knows whats the performance grading scale in ST for E5?

Whats the average score/band/grade?

Unregistered 05-07-2021 11:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 176105)
where do people jump to after st? most i heard is go LTA. the skill set used in st is so random, never use those 8D or FMEA or whatever normal engineering methods to solve problem. everything problem just ask customer can close eye or not.

i am underpaid as fk. 3year working exp (2 years in ST), promoted this year but am E5 getting below 3.3k mthly, am st contract with 0.5mth bonus, and best of all i have band 1 grading for 2 years. my previous bonus also 0.5mth. i can show proof to mods for my below 3.3k salary, 0.5mth bonus and band 1

i signed my st contract, but really felt 2 years wasted for nothing.
Wah... sounds bad.

Unregistered 05-07-2021 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 176942)
What's the salary increment range for band 2?
I got band 2 grading. Received 1.75% increment. Anyone else get similar?

Unregistered 06-07-2021 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 176982)
I got band 2 grading. Received 1.75% increment. Anyone else get similar?
Same. Band 2 grade with 1.75%. Any band 2 got higher than that? Times are bad. Previously, received 3% with the same grade back in 2019…

mugenboy 06-07-2021 03:27 AM
Outsource (STE Staff)
 
So only Perm Staff bonus will be 2-3 months? Heard Outsource (STE Staff) always get nothing.

Unregistered 06-07-2021 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 176984)
Same. Band 2 grade with 1.75%. Any band 2 got higher than that? Times are bad. Previously, received 3% with the same grade back in 2019…
How you all know your increment rate so quickly? You all received letter already?

Unregistered 06-07-2021 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 176126)
hahaha, i left ST and restarted my career bro, also 2 yr wasted. i am like a sai gang warrior, fight fire here and there, whatever **** also touch abit. when i go interview, they say my exposure not deep enough to be senior......
These people they dunno ST is a big company with all the big customer izzit??? Our exposure can become manager in their watever mnc sme lah... otherwise how we manage a big company?

Unregistered 06-07-2021 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 176984)
Same. Band 2 grade with 1.75%. Any band 2 got higher than that? Times are bad. Previously, received 3% with the same grade back in 2019…
Some divisions already down to 1 to 2% increment back in 2019. That was when they were still using the alphabet gradings.

Unregistered 06-07-2021 11:02 AM
Perm here. I also got a measly 1.7%. Really bad. I know I shouldn't be complaining in view of the current times.

Unregistered 06-07-2021 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 176993)
How you all know your increment rate so quickly? You all received letter already?
It's sent to your ST email. Go check it out. Unless you don't read emails

Unregistered 06-07-2021 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 177011)
Perm here. I also got a measly 1.7%. Really bad. I know I shouldn't be complaining in view of the current times.
Sighs, have a colleague in the aviation insurance industry getting 2%...sibei sianz

Unregistered 12-07-2021 11:31 AM
Still quite piss that Annual Leave can only carry forward 5 days starting from 2021. Don’t know which idiot go and implement this lousy rule. Come on at least 50% carry forward is more appropriate.

Unregistered 12-07-2021 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 177613)
Still quite piss that Annual Leave can only carry forward 5 days starting from 2021. Don’t know which idiot go and implement this lousy rule. Come on at least 50% carry forward is more appropriate.
similar to several large firms in the private sector too

Unregistered 12-07-2021 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 177619)
similar to several large firms in the private sector too
Looks like public sector best. Can carry over one whole year of vacation leave to the next year.

Unregistered 12-07-2021 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 177623)
Looks like public sector best. Can carry over one whole year of vacation leave to the next year.
how many vacation leaves u have each year?

Unregistered 12-07-2021 01:27 PM
If really so uptight about the leave issue, just take MC to cover the days. Thought this type of thing is self evident in working world alr.

Unregistered 14-07-2021 08:45 AM
Please la. My outsource colleague have it worst.
Her contract just renewed the week before the salary increment is announced.

She checked with HR. No increment.
For 2 years.

She is looking for another job right now.

Unregistered 14-07-2021 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 177786)
Please la. My outsource colleague have it worst.
Her contract just renewed the week before the salary increment is announced.

She checked with HR. No increment.
For 2 years.

She is looking for another job right now.
How can compare to outsourced colleagues. Obviously outsourced employees have it worst since they are not fulltimers right. Got any company on earth which treats outsourced employees better than its own fulltime employees?

Obviously if u keep comparing with people more jialat than you, you would be better.

Unregistered 14-07-2021 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 177795)
How can compare to outsourced colleagues. Obviously outsourced employees have it worst since they are not fulltimers right. Got any company on earth which treats outsourced employees better than its own fulltime employees?

Obviously if u keep comparing with people more jialat than you, you would be better.
Outsourced staff are full-timers, just that they are under permanent payroll from STE. Being a full-timer and a permanent staff is in different context.

Just like a person can be a permanent staff but work part-time.

Unregistered 14-07-2021 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 177795)
How can compare to outsourced colleagues. Obviously outsourced employees have it worst since they are not fulltimers right. Got any company on earth which treats outsourced employees better than its own fulltime employees?

Obviously if u keep comparing with people more jialat than you, you would be better.
Ya la if they so good then go join mnc la no need to kpkb here. If cmi no mnc want them too bad. ST never owe them any money also.

Unregistered 15-07-2021 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 177804)
Outsourced staff are full-timers, just that they are under permanent payroll from STE. Being a full-timer and a permanent staff is in different context.

Just like a person can be a permanent staff but work part-time.
Doesnt matter who pays their payroll. Outsourced means the benefits confirm worst. If not they would be fulltimers already. Dont you get the point?

In order to improve our lives do we constantly compare ourselves with people who are worst off than us?

Unregistered 15-07-2021 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 177849)
Doesnt matter who pays their payroll. Outsourced means the benefits confirm worst. If not they would be fulltimers already. Dont you get the point?

In order to improve our lives do we constantly compare ourselves with people who are worst off than us?
I'm just stating how STE classify their staff. Don't you get the point?

Unregistered 15-07-2021 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 177856)
I'm just stating how STE classify their staff. Don't you get the point?
It doesnt matter. What matters is that outsourced employees definitely has worst benefits than fulltimers.

Unregistered 21-07-2021 09:04 PM
How come the life so good. Am an engineer in Stee but me and my colleagues all work like ****

Unregistered 23-07-2021 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178181)
How come the life so good. Am an engineer in Stee but me and my colleagues all work like ****
My workload just increased... jia lat, hope the hijacks are minimum -_-

Unregistered 25-07-2021 03:37 PM
Career advice
 
Hi guys.. I have been working in ste for 6.5yrs n counting. Joined as an E5, now still the same despite increasing workload from just doing 1 system to 7 systems now. I have always been getting band 2 and only recent I got a band 3, and still no promotion. There was no increment last year, $25 increment this year. I feel that there's no career progression.. Should I move on?

Unregistered 25-07-2021 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 176982)
I got band 2 grading. Received 1.75% increment. Anyone else get similar?
i got 0.635%


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