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Unregistered 29-05-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 135621)
Should I choose MAS, EDB or WSG? Which one has better prospects?

Got offers from all 3

Could you share the pay please? NS or No Ns and grade

Unregistered 29-05-2020 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 135617)
Is your work across the different ministries similar? How to change ministry if not a scholar?

You are free to resign and join, or ask for secondment/posting.

Unregistered 29-05-2020 02:32 PM

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Hi Gurus here,

I'm a local fresh grad. 25 this year, male with NS. economics degree 2nd upper.

just got offered by msf,

gross: $3560
grade: MX13
2 years contract

Is this a reasonable offer? Is there any room for negotiation (to 3800)?
Is it normal for fresh grads to get 2 year contracts, and not perm positions? Or is it just because of the covid situation?

Thanks!

career progression 29-05-2020 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 135629)
Would not consider WSG in your case, but really depends on your interest etc etc.

My personal view. MAS is more policy-inclinded while EDB is more out-reached inclined.

MAS is not an easy place to get into, and is a very competitive pressured environment. But is a very good place to grow and be developed (or rather be whacked into shape) :) Do consider MAS as your top choice, especially when given this opportunity.

Hi, different poster here but I am considering between MAS and ESG, which is better to start my career? I understand that they are very different, but still fulfilling the public service calling. MAS deals with financial institutions while ESG deals with SMEs and could be said to be more ''client-facing'', front office and entrepreneurial. Also the average age is younger than MAS. However, MAS is prestigious but seems very bureaucratic.

Any insights as to the progression? Pay wise MAS is higher by about 15%

Local uni fresh grad, male NS

Unregistered 29-05-2020 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 135642)
Hi Gurus here,

I'm a local fresh grad. 25 this year, male with NS. economics degree 2nd upper.

just got offered by msf,

gross: $3560
grade: MX13
2 years contract

Is this a reasonable offer? Is there any room for negotiation (to 3800)?
Is it normal for fresh grads to get 2 year contracts, and not perm positions? Or is it just because of the covid situation?

Thanks!

Hi better clarify with HR what the “contract” entails.

I got drafted a similar scale with a different ministry under a 1-year contract. “Contract” meaning I am bounded by the agency for a year and am unable to render resignation before the contract period ends.

Usually positions are permanent unless it’s a project-based assignment.

Unregistered 29-05-2020 02:51 PM

Thanks for the quick reply!

Aside from clarifying the contractual obligations, do you think the salary is fair? Is there any room to negotiate higher?

I am cautious due to the whole covid situation, don't wanna spook them off...

Unregistered 29-05-2020 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by helicoptermoney (Post 135607)
thanks... they changed all a few years ago. base looks high, but actually quite low

not too low actually. just that it makes everyone thinks MAS pays higher than the others at the same pay grade.

govtech did that also. usually is to push the basic pay higher to attract talent from private sector

Unregistered 29-05-2020 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by career progression (Post 135643)
Hi, different poster here but I am considering between MAS and ESG, which is better to start my career? I understand that they are very different, but still fulfilling the public service calling. MAS deals with financial institutions while ESG deals with SMEs and could be said to be more ''client-facing'', front office and entrepreneurial. Also the average age is younger than MAS. However, MAS is prestigious but seems very bureaucratic.

Any insights as to the progression? Pay wise MAS is higher by about 15%

Local uni fresh grad, male NS

Are you referring to the graduate program for both organisations? I thought positions for both have closed alrdy? Anyway MAS & EDB are much better places to start your career in terms of experience and pay

helicoptermoney 29-05-2020 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 135652)
not too low actually. just that it makes everyone thinks MAS pays higher than the others at the same pay grade.

govtech did that also. usually is to push the basic pay higher to attract talent from private sector

Quite bad lah.. basically playing with numbers. otherwise no one would join also..

Unregistered 29-05-2020 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by career progression (Post 135643)
Hi, different poster here but I am considering between MAS and ESG, which is better to start my career? I understand that they are very different, but still fulfilling the public service calling. MAS deals with financial institutions while ESG deals with SMEs and could be said to be more ''client-facing'', front office and entrepreneurial. Also the average age is younger than MAS. However, MAS is prestigious but seems very bureaucratic.

Any insights as to the progression? Pay wise MAS is higher by about 15%

Local uni fresh grad, male NS

Assuming with offers on the table from both, MAS option for a start is a no-brainer i think.

If its just for considerations, do always explore both options and more. E.g. you might prefer ESG but be ready to be rejected or not being shortlisted. Same applies to MAS.

Progression is all in your hands, depending on your smarts and performance. MAS salary is seen as higher cause of the way its structured.

Hope these info helps.


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