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Unregistered 29-12-2014 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60730)
Back in 2006, fresh grads only started with 2500-3000. The 4k trend probably only started from 2014 onwards.

Starting pay is based on the scheme and not the job function.

The key advantage which policy officers have is job exposure and exposure to senior management. This can help increase progression pace if you are deemed to have a higher than average CEP. Of course there are other opportunities for operational officers but I would reckon that it's fewer because of the nature and visibility of policy jobs vs operational jobs

You and the other posters are right about the starting pay being tied to the scheme. I'm not sure what the OP meant by policy work, I was referring to stuff like the economist scheme in MAS which is one of those that pays higher than the typical MX.

Unregistered 29-12-2014 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60739)
No it's not. 3-4% on non promotion years is about avg. The poster wasn't talking about 3-4% avg across the years.

Hmmm, got 8-10% for several non-promotion years... Didn't know the increment is so different for the average performer.

Unregistered 29-12-2014 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60740)
You and the other posters are right about the starting pay being tied to the scheme. I'm not sure what the OP meant by policy work, I was referring to stuff like the economist scheme in MAS which is one of those that pays higher than the typical MX.

Not MAS, is MTI. economist hired by MAS is not under the scheme. Economist under MTI rotated out to MAS (or various other ministries) will be under the scheme.

Unregistered 29-12-2014 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60746)
Hmmm, got 8-10% for several non-promotion years... Didn't know the increment is so different for the average performer.

Are you on the economist scheme? Or some other professional scheme (non MX)?

Unregistered 29-12-2014 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60750)
Not MAS, is MTI. economist hired by MAS is not under the scheme. Economist under MTI rotated out to MAS (or various other ministries) will be under the scheme.

Yes you're right. Don't know how I ended up typing MAS.

Unregistered 29-12-2014 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60746)
Hmmm, got 8-10% for several non-promotion years... Didn't know the increment is so different for the average performer.

That's quite high. 8% is probably the ceiling for B graders on my side. Mind sharing which org you're from?

Unregistered 29-12-2014 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60734)
I see, so basically taking on operational roles would already be short changing oneself in the civil service due to the nature of the job?

Competition in policy department is stiffer too. Because the cream of the crop tend to flock there.

Unregistered 29-12-2014 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60753)
That's quite high. 8% is probably the ceiling for B graders on my side. Mind sharing which org you're from?

My guess is that this pax is on one of the professional schemes. For example, economist scheme and engineering scheme pay better.

Unregistered 30-12-2014 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60755)
My guess is that this pax is on one of the professional schemes. For example, economist scheme and engineering scheme pay better.

How do you get on the engineering scheme?

Unregistered 02-01-2015 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60693)
29 and earning 7k. That's very high for someone on the normal MX scheme and a little unusual I think.


not impossible, in fact quite common for non scholars, especially for the grade 1 ministries in their respective clusters, especially if someone comes in from the quasi govt sector - eg GLCs, GIC, Temasek Subs, Govt AUs, etc..

Also, these salaries tend to be in the Policy Sections/Division. with AO's and PSLPs in these departments it would need to be equitable.

MOH (senior health policy analysts are a good example at the 29yo 7k range), MTI (economists) and MINDEF (rare but there have been) are such examples.


but to rise from within to hit 7k by 29 is almost impossible unless you make it into the PSLP and finished your first milestone programme. must be a lateral shift.


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