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Unregistered 29-12-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60693)
29 and earning 7k. That's very high for someone on the normal MX scheme and a little unusual I think.

Policy work related roles have higher pay to start out with. Female grads who started in such a role at 22/23 yrs old with say around 4k or slightly below will only need an annual increment of 10% on avg to hit 7k or more at 29.

10% avg is pretty achievable considering that there tends to be a "bonus" pay adjustment for civil service every couple of years.

Unregistered 29-12-2014 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60697)
Policy work related roles have higher pay to start out with. Female grads who started in such a role at 22/23 yrs old with say around 4k or slightly below will only need an annual increment of 10% on avg to hit 7k or more at 29.

10% avg is pretty achievable considering that there tends to be a "bonus" pay adjustment for civil service every couple of years.

10% r u refering to policy work specifically? coz from other posts in this forum civil service annual increment can be 3-4% and stay like that for many years.

10% is very good in both public and private sector, if not considering job hopping.

Unregistered 29-12-2014 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60697)
Policy work related roles have higher pay to start out with. Female grads who started in such a role at 22/23 yrs old with say around 4k or slightly below will only need an annual increment of 10% on avg to hit 7k or more at 29.

10% avg is pretty achievable considering that there tends to be a "bonus" pay adjustment for civil service every couple of years.

But starting salary is tied to the scheme and not to the job role. So someone in an operational role will be paid the same starting salary as another in an operational role, all else being equal. Unless they are on different schemes. Subsequent progression, of course, could be different.

Unregistered 29-12-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60708)
But starting salary is tied to the scheme and not to the job role. So someone in an operational role will be paid the same starting salary as another in an operational role, all else being equal. Unless they are on different schemes. Subsequent progression, of course, could be different.

Seems quite sad that operational roles are getting less pay than policy related roles especially when policy related role people usually have degrees that are very niche and cannot expand to other roles outside of policy.

I wonder why operational roles are not given similar pace of progression and opportunities as policy related roles.

Unregistered 29-12-2014 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60697)
Policy work related roles have higher pay to start out with. Female grads who started in such a role at 22/23 yrs old with say around 4k or slightly below will only need an annual increment of 10% on avg to hit 7k or more at 29.

10% avg is pretty achievable considering that there tends to be a "bonus" pay adjustment for civil service every couple of years.

I dont think the average person gets a 10% pay adjustment every year on average. That would be quite high actually..

Unregistered 29-12-2014 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60697)
Policy work related roles have higher pay to start out with. Female grads who started in such a role at 22/23 yrs old with say around 4k or slightly below will only need an annual increment of 10% on avg to hit 7k or more at 29.

10% avg is pretty achievable considering that there tends to be a "bonus" pay adjustment for civil service every couple of years.

Back in 2006, fresh grads only started with 2500-3000. The 4k trend probably only started from 2014 onwards.

Starting pay is based on the scheme and not the job function.

The key advantage which policy officers have is job exposure and exposure to senior management. This can help increase progression pace if you are deemed to have a higher than average CEP. Of course there are other opportunities for operational officers but I would reckon that it's fewer because of the nature and visibility of policy jobs vs operational jobs

Unregistered 29-12-2014 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60730)
Back in 2006, fresh grads only started with 2500-3000. The 4k trend probably only started from 2014 onwards.

Starting pay is based on the scheme and not the job function.

The key advantage which policy officers have is job exposure and exposure to senior management. This can help increase progression pace if you are deemed to have a higher than average CEP. Of course there are other opportunities for operational officers but I would reckon that it's fewer because of the nature and visibility of policy jobs vs operational jobs

I see, so basically taking on operational roles would already be short changing oneself in the civil service due to the nature of the job?

Unregistered 29-12-2014 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60703)
10% r u refering to policy work specifically? coz from other posts in this forum civil service annual increment can be 3-4% and stay like that for many years.

10% is very good in both public and private sector, if not considering job hopping.

3-4% annual increment? That's way too low. Prolly for the poor performers.

Unregistered 29-12-2014 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60703)
10% r u refering to policy work specifically? coz from other posts in this forum civil service annual increment can be 3-4% and stay like that for many years.

10% is very good in both public and private sector, if not considering job hopping.

3-4% is on non promotion years. A typical promotion will likely yield around 10 - 12% and factoring in pay adjustment, 10% avg should be about right.

Unregistered 29-12-2014 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60736)
3-4% annual increment? That's way too low. Prolly for the poor performers.

No it's not. 3-4% on non promotion years is about avg. The poster wasn't talking about 3-4% avg across the years.


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