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Can a Senior Executive who is MX13(I) at a Stat Board earn $5,000? My friend keep saying she is earning $5,000 but the salary ceiling at Civil Service is much lower for that grade. Does Stat Board pays better? If yes, I want to move.

Senior executive at my agency here earns between 6k to 8k.think it differs for different places

Unregistered

23-03-2024 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 271341)

There is headcount freeze across all of service. Even people I know within MOM themselves can't get their own staff emplaced.

All thanks to the broader headcount reduction exercise.

Does tat mean all future new hires will be contract only, with zero chance of emplacement?

i wonder if there is the same for transfer case as well.

Albert

23-03-2024 07:05 PM

Pay scale of Deputy Director under MX scheme

Hi

I would like to enquire what are the pay scale of Deputy Director, which falls under MX10a/MX10b and in some cases under MX9?

Unregistered

23-03-2024 08:40 PM

Hi, can anyone share what is the MI
normally for mx 13(I) to mx 12?

jrbearus

23-03-2024 08:42 PM

It depends on market conditions. Check the letter which confirms your promotion. In this case there are promotion increment and merit increment.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 272254)

Hi, can anyone share what is the MI
normally for mx 13(I) to mx 12?

Unregistered

24-03-2024 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 272221)

Senior executive at my agency here earns between 6k to 8k.think it differs for different places

$6000 to $8000! You know that Senior executive is a junior post here in Singapore?

Unregistered

24-03-2024 10:31 PM

I have seen a few posts by users fresh out of uni with starting salaries of 4.5k - 5k as MX13. I understand that these might be positions in "specialised" ministries / SB, but how would the salary progression look like for these people? Is the only difference being that they will reach the salary ceiling for MX12 much faster, and future increments will therefore have to depend on their promotion to MX11 and beyond?

Unregistered

25-03-2024 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 271341)

There is headcount freeze across all of service. Even people I know within MOM themselves can't get their own staff emplaced.

All thanks to the broader headcount reduction exercise.

Does that mean instead of a pyramid, it'll look more like a hdb block?

Unregistered

25-03-2024 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 272333)

most heavyweight or rev gen dept can get this range easily it's nothing much

consider that a software developer in a real middle sized software company already paying this range for fresh grads more than a decade ago. by real i mean they have their own products and do their own developm, not outsourced agencies

Unregistered

25-03-2024 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 272487)

Could you explain what heavyweight or rev gen dept are?

And how will their salary / career progression scale considering that they their starting pay is already somewhat near the MX12 salary ceiling?

Unregistered

26-03-2024 10:43 AM

Anyone able to share more about the intelligence scheme? Does it include MSD, ISD, SID? How is the starting pay, overall package and progression or promotion structure? Do people usually stay for their life after joining since the skills may not be so transferable over to private sector?

Unregistered

26-03-2024 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 272524)

Get an interview with them and ask the interviewer

Unregistered

26-03-2024 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 272333)

Is 4.5k-5k as MX13 really considered a specialised role? Is that not the normal range for a fresh grad?

Unregistered

26-03-2024 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 272547)

Is 4.5k-5k as MX13 really considered a specialised role? Is that not the normal range for a fresh grad?

no. normal is 4000

Unregistered

27-03-2024 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 272485)

Does that mean instead of a pyramid, it'll look more like a hdb block?

More like the blocks which are shorter and broader at the base.
Aka short and fat.

Unregistered

27-03-2024 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 272551)

no. normal is 4000

Saw a guy mentioning that he is drawing low 4k as a fresh grad for a policy role. I think the norm for fresh grad now would be higher?

Unregistered

27-03-2024 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 272684)

Saw a guy mentioning that he is drawing low 4k as a fresh grad for a policy role. I think the norm for fresh grad now would be higher?

What do you think the norm for fresh grads in both non-specialised and specialised schemes will be respectively?

If a fresh grad in a non-specialised role can potentially draw 5k+, will fresh grads in law / MFA / intel / MTI be drawing upwards of 6k (assuming a 20% premium)?

Unregistered

27-03-2024 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 272690)

Why are u even speculating here. Just go apply for the job and try to get an offer. Govt agency pay structures are based on formula with not much chance to negotiate unless you are specifically head hunted by senior management of the agency.

Don't bother going around thinking / speculating, other people can get this rate, I should be able to get this as well. Just go and apply and interview and get an offer. U will have your answer then and there.

Unregistered

28-03-2024 05:49 PM

New to CS

Mid career switch. 13yoe and got offered a job in ministry. Gross salary paycut of 3% and The salary almost hit ceiling but got room for progression. Should i accept to get into CS?
Need advice TIA

Unregistered

28-03-2024 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 272843)

Mid career switch. 13yoe and got offered a job in ministry. Gross salary paycut of 3% and The salary almost hit ceiling but got room for progression. Should i accept to get into CS?
Need advice TIA

u are offered MX11? MX11A? MX10?

Unregistered

29-03-2024 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 272843)

Mid career switch. 13yoe and got offered a job in ministry. Gross salary paycut of 3% and The salary almost hit ceiling but got room for progression. Should i accept to get into CS?
Need advice TIA

There's no guarantee of promotion and you will be stuck at the salary band.

Unregistered

29-03-2024 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 272690)

Most fresh grads in Ministries are on the MX scheme, which pays around 4.5k for males with FCH now. Under the MX scheme, there's a slight premium of about $100-200 for the more important ministries like MTI, compared with MSF etc. Some of these ministries also have specialist schemes for the high-potential officers (for e.g., MTI officers who do well can convert to the Trade Specialist scheme after a few years).

The range for specialised roles is naturally much broader. The MFA FSO scheme pays almost 6k these days to male fresh grads, from what I heard.

Unregistered

29-03-2024 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 272843)

Mid career switch. 13yoe and got offered a job in ministry. Gross salary paycut of 3% and The salary almost hit ceiling but got room for progression. Should i accept to get into CS?
Need advice TIA

almost bit ceiling and still got room for progression??? quite contradicting. accept it if u want stability and ok with zero increment for a few years after confirmation.

Unregistered

29-03-2024 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 272983)

almost bit ceiling and still got room for progression??? quite contradicting. accept it if u want stability and ok with zero increment for a few years after confirmation.

exho same sentiment

Unregistered

31-03-2024 01:34 AM

32 no NS 9YOE interested in Min / SB e.g. MTI, MAS, EDB

priority on work life balance + stability, should I only be looking at AD/SAD roles? what is the overall package like? need some advices.

currently with private tech drawing 150k p.a. not including equity

Unregistered

31-03-2024 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273150)

Your current compensation is already impressive. What are your reasons for wanting to switch to public sector?

Best guess is you want worklife balance because you are probably overworked right now.

You can get the worklife balance in public sector if you agree to a paycut. Because it is highly unlikely any ministry will match your current pay.

Unregistered

31-03-2024 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273150)

On the normal generic MX scheme, you will only draw close to your current in a MX10 role (i.e. Senior Asst Dir or Deputy Director). I don't now about your current WLB, but a senior role comes with it certain expectations and responsibilities (always-on, some weekends etc), and it also varies from place to place, so its hard to tell whether you will have better WLB with a switch.

However, you mentioned you are in tech, which pays a premium. So if you go to Govtech for example, you will be able to hit your current pay at a MX11A grade (Asst Direct)

Unregistered

31-03-2024 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 271037)

Found out that I was not going to be emplaced when my 2 years contract is due.
Sincerely looking for advice on what I should do.

When I first joined this ministry 2 years ago, I was told that officers would be emplaced (usually) after 2 years of contract. However, I was now told that I cannot be emplaced due to some HR policy and cap. So I was over another 2 years of contract.
I also recently found out from other colleagues that there won’t be any renewal after 4 years of contract so that means if I’m not emplaced after this round of contract, I can say goodbye to this ministry - I have since confirmed this with the HR and it’s true.

Feeling really bummed about it as I really wanted to do this as my career.

I still have a large ongoing project that I would love to see it to completion but also wondering about my career development and in a dilemma on whether I should stay on and hope to get emplace after this 2 year renewed contract or just leave this year and find other opportunities.

There are multiple push and pull factors, I love my job and what I’m doing but I’m also stuck with a very bad boss that doesn’t care about growing the staff.
But I also feel bad for leaving with the project still incomplete.

Appreciate any helpful advice on what I should do pls!

i was in the same situation as u. for my case i have been with the ministry for almost 5 years. starting they gave excuses saying headcount freeze thereafter they will find many different excuses saying u never do your work properly so as not to renew u. better to find new workplace rather than wait for them to terminate u and give u poor grading

Unregistered

31-03-2024 06:42 PM

private tech firm does not offer stability, we undergo restructuring every other quarter, I'm currently in the stage of family planning, therefore don't mind taking a pay cut if I can have a predictable and stable work life, more importantly no night calls and will be able to leave work on time.

Hoping to find a ministry role that can offer the flexibility for me to step back for a while, and then step up again for a bigger role when kid finally grows up. is that too much to ask?

Unregistered

31-03-2024 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273150)

LOL at wanting WLB and high pay.

You cant get WLB with your current pay in the government service.

Unregistered

31-03-2024 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273150)

at best 100k package with 9yo

Unregistered

31-03-2024 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273274)

at best 100k package with 9yo

U r right…at least 33% pay cut….plus it will be contract basis

Unregistered

31-03-2024 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273255)

you can have what you stated - stability and worklife balance, as long as you are able to accept:

1. a substantial paycut of 30% or more
2. hired on contract basis, with some risk of no renewal after it ends

some additional pointers for you to know...nowadays most new hires are on contract, not perm. so the stability part is actually not 100%. and depending on the ministry you join, you may also still need to OT occasionally. even if you have the option to refuse, it will be reflected in your performance grade somehow.

of course, you might be lucky enough to get an insignificant paycut (or perhaps one might even match your pay) and you could also get emplaced permanently.

with these information on possibilities and risks, you decide for yourself if it is too much to ask for? :)

Unregistered

01-04-2024 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 271415)

this is a jump of 2 grades, it should be MX12 to MX11 to MX 11A

to answer your question, i recall the ceiling of MX12 of $6.2k is the bottom of MX11A pay grade

Okay. I shall wait for the official letter then. Really not sure how this mx grade works? Is there mx11b?

Unregistered

01-04-2024 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273357)

Okay. I shall wait for the official letter then. Really not sure how this mx grade works? Is there mx11b?

After MX11a will be MX10

Unregistered

02-04-2024 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273484)

After MX11a will be MX10