MI for GEO4 , $178 , B grader , got a cut in MI from previously

Yes it includes April increment. Now promotion and merit increment all cut.

Economy no good. Garment no cutting pay arm chio liao.

Were you near the geo 3 ceiling already?

This year promotion and merit increment all cut.

everything cut except Defence budget went up. lol wonder whther SAF regulars got cut or same

yes cut also

More of this nonsense again.

Remuneration should be based on value created, not "standing in solidarity". Putting on a popular show is the job of politicians, not the civil servants and public servants.

Look at the industries that are creating value during the pandemic. They are booming and reaping the rewards.

Geo 5 to seo1 increase about 600plus b4 cut cpf... correct bo?

Just checked pac gov... or is it havent fully updated... geo 5 pay b4 deduction about 6.1.... now seo1 about 6.7k....

It's fully updated le. Just that promotion and merit increment is cut.

Geo promotion is just ~$400.

For seo promotion ~$600 is right

Last year superscale only have a token sum of PB.

Oh ok Thank u

So? Salaries and salary progression at the GEO grades are absolute garbage. But the GEOs are the backbone of the service. MOE starting to become complacent because of "excess teachers" and not afraid of brain drain? Shed only the right side of the bell curve, lowering the average quality of teachers over time?

then tell me what is fair wage? similar to wages of private sector managers and vps?

Not happy you can quit. I am getting $7+k as a HOT.

That’s the base for GEO5 right? I’m hitting 6.1 for GEO 4 (promoted since 2019)

I’m wondering... I’m less than $100 away from the ceiling. What happens when I hit the ceiling and I’m not promoted? I will no longer receive MI until I get promoted?

yes you will get MI till you hit ceiling and then no more

Salary
 

Anyone has all the salary ranges for teachers?

You will receive MI until you hit the ceiling. Once you hit the ceiling, you will no longer receive MI until you are promoted, or there is an increase in the ceiling (e.g. service-wide salary adjustments).

Tell that to the GEO3s in this thread who have been GEO3 since 2014, 2015, 2016. Everybody knows that once you are out of BT-ship, your deployment and workload is almost the same as geo4/5 HOTs. So if GEO3s demonstrate their ability to perform "at the next level" for years and years (which is the usual (non-)answer when you ask RO/SLs "how do I get promoted?"), why does the system retard their progression?

No need to be, but ask yourself how many hours a day you spend working, including after you leave the school compound? How many hours per week can you truly 'disconnect from work'? I bet you have marking and MYE paper setting to do this weekend.

Drawing 4-5k a month to bust your balls for 60-80 hours a week is not an outrageously low salary, enough to have a modest living, but it is based on the dangerous assumption that passion and love for the job is enough to keep people going indefinitely and ignore comparisons to the outside world. It might, for their first few fiery years, but after that we have to look at how to retain people who might have market value outside (surprise surprise, some teachers didn't join teaching just because they had no choice and needed a dumping ground).

Then in this case, leave teaching so that moe can draw in new blood. There are plenty of aspiring applicants who are dying to get it but it's very hard now..

Someone shared this last time. Don't know how accurate it is.

GEO1 (Untrained): ? (non-graduates start here)
GEO (Trained): 1600 - 2730
GEO2 (Untrained): 2000-4340 (graduates start here)
GEO2 (Trained): 2538-4500
GEO3: 3515 -5616
GEO4: 4545-7271
GEO5: 4903-7845 (max salary grade for standard teacher)
SEO1: 5651-9064 (min. LH/SH/ST)
SEO2: 7236-10766 (min. HOD/LT)
SEO3: 8748-11232 (+9%?) (min. HOD/MT)

last one is wrong... HOD max out at SEO2 not SEO3

How about collating latest MI instead?

GEO2 to GEO5 ranges are accurate as of now. Like above commenter said, HOD/YH estab grade is SEO2. To hit SEO3, minimum VP(EO), MT, DD(EO) or equivalent.

SEO 3 is the senior large portfolio HOD. Not all HODs are the same.

Why bother with collating MI? Not like we can change anything. And the cut this year is (hopefully) one-off.

Am more interested in knowing the ceilings for various grades to aid with long-term planning…

ok so basically geo5 is like mx11

Ya man.. Geo3 since 2015 n sick of it ardy

Actually is Mx11A. But Mx11a pay higher than geo5

No it’s not. SEO1 is MX11A

Seo1 mi
 

Anyone in SEO knows how is the MI for SEO every year?
I was promoted to SEO1 last week, saw that “+9%” (9% for each year😱)
Thank you.

Honestly, there isn’t really gonna be a lot of promotions; rate of promotions has gone down very drastically over the years due to excess of teachers.

Unless suddenly many many teachers retire at one go, who knows

Yeah, too bad MOE considers it a waste of money to have a smaller student to teacher ratio across the nation.

Just keep the education system in its current state as a factory line mass producing elite test-takers and compliant yes men at a low unit cost.

The +9% refers to the change in salary ranges during the 2015 review of the education service scheme

Agree with you. Still stubborn to change to smaller student to teacher ratio, when many countries like Sweden are amongst the best in terms of education and maybe ahead of us with smaller class sizes and innovative teaching strategies.

How you manage to see your increas is $400? how did your calculate it ?
Thank you

seo1 promotion
 

my pay increment from geo5 to seo1 all in is $481. nothing to shout about.