It will only get worse. At the minimum, all teachers need to take on a form class, a CCA and at least one committee.

At GEO4 and above, expected to head a CCA, and maybe be IC of committees/subcommittees. For departmental programmes, also expected to take charge of some committees within your department.

If I may ask, what were you thinking when you applied to join teaching as a mid-career applicant?

As a 5yoe teacher (GEO4) does it benefit my CEP more if I apply for hq posting now, as compared to a few years down the road after a stint as a LH? (have been told the school wishes to groom me)

Can anyone share geo3 fajt pay???

If the school is really going to put you on the road to a LH appointment, stick with it.

Generally, a HQ posting helps, but you have to find the right job fit, and you need to prove yourself in the eyes of your new bosses.

If your school already deems you fit to be groomed for higher appointment, you "save some time" by staying with your school for a while.

It's $40 per hour

Not too shabby actually..thank u

What is off-putting is that you are doing more or less the same job as every ex-GEO4 and ex-GEO5 FAJT.. but they are being paid more.

Literally the same problem as every long-time GEO3 who is stuck without promotion. Some have 10 years of teaching experience and are good teachers. They shoulder a full load not only because they can but also because the manpower crunch leaves many schools no choice to differentiate deployment based on subgrade. Long story short: same job, near equal skill, much less pay.

The point of going hq is to get a KP appointment. If the school is grooming you and offering you LH, then just take the opportunity.

same problem with young geo4 too... and for KPs stuck at geo4 and 5...

the seos are the ones who joined at the right timing for fast promotions... positions above are all saturated by them

So true. Lets see who can do less then.

I heard people are already rejecting extra workload and don't care about performance grades anymore. That bad?

that is nothing new. even decades ago was such. that doesnt mean teachers never cared. many teachers realise the real difference comes when u influence students through quality of teaching, and interacting with them.

But u may just be doing more work than other teachers? Check with ur collleagues. One thhing u have to realike unlike other jobs is you can work more for students - literally to INFINITY. Eg u could check every piece of work they do.
A line has to be drawn - that depends on subject, level, age appropriateness but also school/dept culture.

Yes me. No choice. No more bandwidth to gaf.

Have seen some teachers don’t give homework at all, only give class work. That could one method to adopt to reduce marking load. Students are happy as well.

if extra workload translates to extra pay, i am sure it would not be the case.

Unlike tuition in which the more students you teach, the more pay you have; in MOE schools, you can be doing more work, but if no one recognises it as making an impact, then your pay may even be less than expected. Does anyone even care how much marking you do for students or that you even prepare your own resources cause no one in the dept bothers to update the resources after donkey years?

I have colleagues who are so overwhelmed with work and they just ask for half or 3/4 load for half load

Seems like many are planning to switch to part-time load, or try to be FAJT.
People are just really burnt out.

It will be an education service with the old folks up there governing without knowing what's really happening on the ground.

they do, but it’s not even moe who decides.
it’s a very tight labour market.
govt will not allocate more teachers

Tight labour market is true. But we cannot expect to have our cake and eat it. If we are short of teachers, we cannot expect to do more and more and more every year while maintaining or increasing standards. We have to right-size education based on staffing constraints. If the Education Service is 30k strong we cannot behave as if we are 50k strong. Then you get teachers working 80-90 hours per week including take-home work. It's ridiculous.

Don’t think it’s even possible to start doing less. The message all comes right from from PS and Minister. With so many changes every few years and not setting the stage right on what to do with so many priorities, it’s gonna get heavier and heavier

Yup. If everything is top priority, then everything is equal priority, and the plate just gets heavier and heavier over time as every new political office holder or top management introduces their own pet project and makes it top priority.

Very well said.

So how? Need to vote wisely?

How do we give feedback to change? Really feel suffocated to work in such a stupid system but I like to help young students.

There's only mcare or resignation.

Since when is feedback from the bottom ever listened to?

Resigning next week :)

Duration from GEO to SEO
 

Hi

Does anyone knows how long does a non-scholar KP takes to progress from GEO 5 to SEO 1? And from SEO 1 to 2?

well, some questions raised during townhall did reveal some juicy stuff, but most things still led to vague template answers

still interesting nevertheless

Care to share some snippets?

Just like what was mentioned in the post, just open your laptop and go to Intranet and search a little

Doesn't say much

Nobody can say for sure. Really depends on many factors eg performance, availability of vacancies at higher subgrades etc.

Anybody hear rumours abt possible news from HR regarding middle managers in schools?

Worrying Trend
 

I am not sure about other schools but in my school a lot of teachers are leaving the service and most of them are the younger ones who are earmarked for future leadership roles. Those who stay behind, are getting more and more work and P have already said there will be no replacement. Things are getting more and more unsustainable.

Yup, agree with how things are becoming more and more unsustainable. The ones who are left are the older teachers or the management team that believe in ideas planted into their heads - such that every child is not at fault, we should try our best to support them at the expense of ourselves, every child is intrinsically motivated, teachers should always understand the child, parents are always right. Only in LKY era will we get someone who is candid and unabashedly honest to tell parents or people to quit their demanding or hurtful behaviours.

Things cannot change with a fixed mindset. I get that we have to set principles to work on and base decisions on it, but some ideas need to evolve with times or we are ending up with students like America who would bring guns to school.

How can we find out more ?

Pls share more about these rumors

Only useless dumb young ones will stay

Should take the chance to leave before it's too late. Things will only get worse and worse if manpower policy remains the same.