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Unregistered 24-09-2015 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 34489)
They are independent. The prerequisite for promotions is 2 C+ up till the point when u are going to get promoted. It may be accumulated from previous years.

So does that mean if u got C, C+, C+ for the last 3 years and bosses recommended promotion, chances of u being promoted are high?

Unregistered 06-11-2015 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 72994)
So does that mean if u got C, C+, C+ for the last 3 years and bosses recommended promotion, chances of u being promoted are high?

Not really. There are still people who are consistently getting Bs and all. They will be promoted first.

Unregistered 06-11-2015 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 72994)
So does that mean if u got C, C+, C+ for the last 3 years and bosses recommended promotion, chances of u being promoted are high?

Depends on which grade you are trying to get into. Is it a movement from mx11 to mx11a?

Unregistered 08-11-2015 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 72994)
So does that mean if u got C, C+, C+ for the last 3 years and bosses recommended promotion, chances of u being promoted are high?

If you get two Bs, the third year is an automatic promotion. Unless you screw up big time on the third year. So far, its true for me. 3B and 2C+, promoted twice in 5 years.

temp111 08-11-2015 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 74849)
If you get two Bs, the third year is an automatic promotion. Unless you screw up big time on the third year. So far, its true for me. 3B and 2C+, promoted twice in 5 years.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

The year after ur promotion, by default ur pb is a 'C'.

How the hell can u get 3 Bs and 2 C+?

Who are u trying to kid?

Unregistered 09-11-2015 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by temp111 (Post 74851)
Correct me if I'm wrong.

The year after ur promotion, by default ur pb is a 'C'.

How the hell can u get 3 Bs and 2 C+?

Who are u trying to kid?

Am not the person who posted the prev post, but generally true for default is c. Exceptional performing officers can get c+ with justifications to HR.

Unregistered 11-11-2015 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 74865)
Am not the person who posted the prev post, but generally true for default is c. Exceptional performing officers can get c+ with justifications to HR.

does this applies for all government job (regardless you are in stat boards, ministries, MOE, minddef, home team etc.)?

Unregistered 12-11-2015 09:51 AM

Would it be normal for a person to get C+ in the first year for confirmation?

jrbearus 12-11-2015 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 75011)
Would it be normal for a person to get C+ in the first year for confirmation?

Probability is low, unless your performance is exceptional.

jrbearus 12-11-2015 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 75000)
does this applies for all government job (regardless you are in stat boards, ministries, MOE, minddef, home team etc.)?

This is correct.

jrbearus 12-11-2015 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 74849)
If you get two Bs, the third year is an automatic promotion. Unless you screw up big time on the third year. So far, its true for me. 3B and 2C+, promoted twice in 5 years.

There is no such thing as 'automatic' promotion. Someone (aka your HOD) has to press the button.

From your grades, two promotions in five years - one of them should be 'within grade' promotion (no change in your MX grade or even if there is a change, it has an 'A' attached, with the exception of MX11, which has MX11A).

jrbearus 12-11-2015 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 72154)
Hello

Any idea what is the cutoff date for new employee to join stat board and be entitled to the pro-rated PB in April?

PB is for confirmed officer. Depending on the statutory boards, it can be either six months or one year probation period.

jrbearus 12-11-2015 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Riviera (Post 72207)
Anyone knows what's the max pay for both MX 11 and MX 11 (A)?.

Thanks!

About 7K/8K respectively.

Unregistered 12-11-2015 03:19 PM

Hmm I got a confirmation (after working one year) in ministry in 2014, but was given B for PB.
Then this year I had an overall promotion across the board (i.e. Everyone who joined the same time as me were all promoted) , but got a C+ for PB. A drop in grade, but colleagues are telling me it's normal :/

jrbearus 12-11-2015 05:27 PM

What is more important is the quantum for each grade. Usually grade will drop together with quantum but when it is translate to actual cash, you should get more or less the same when comparing your promotion year with post promotion year. You can work your way up thereafter.

By the alway, whoever gives those grades are pretty generous.

Unregistered 13-11-2015 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jrbearus (Post 75049)
What is more important is the quantum for each grade. Usually grade will drop together with quantum but when it is translate to actual cash, you should get more or less the same when comparing your promotion year with post promotion year. You can work your way up thereafter.

By the alway, whoever gives those grades are pretty generous.

oh but do you know what is the quantum for each grade?

jrbearus 20-11-2015 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 75088)
oh but do you know what is the quantum for each grade?

Data is incomplete!

Non-graduate scheme (if no decision is taken to transfer to common scheme for both graduate and non-graduate)
B+ 1.6
B 1.5
B- 1.4
C+ 1.25
C 0.85

MXS 12/13
B 2.5
C+ 2
C 1.5

MXS 11
B 3
B- 2.85
C+ 2.5
C 1.75

MXS 10
C 2.5

Unregistered 21-11-2015 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jrbearus (Post 75015)
There is no such thing as 'automatic' promotion. Someone (aka your HOD) has to press the button.

From your grades, two promotions in five years - one of them should be 'within grade' promotion (no change in your MX grade or even if there is a change, it has an 'A' attached, with the exception of MX11, which has MX11A).

Well, this is what management told me. If you get two B conservatively, the third year will be a promotion. I am not about to argue with management about that. Just take the promotion and say thank you.

Unregistered 21-11-2015 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by temp111 (Post 74851)
Correct me if I'm wrong.

The year after ur promotion, by default ur pb is a 'C'.

How the hell can u get 3 Bs and 2 C+?

Who are u trying to kid?

On the years of my promotions, I got C+. I was told by management I would have been given a B if not for the promotions. I heard of the default grade but it is not totally true. For example, in theory, your first year is a default C, but I got a B on my first year.

1st year B
2nd year C+(Promoted)
3rd year B
4th year B
5th year C+(Promoted)

How I did this?
The truth is I put in very long hours. Sat and Sundays included. My HOD is a workaholic and he sees me in the office during the weekends. I put in more hours than my HOD. Not advisable for people looking for work-life balance. I am the first one to say I sacrifice my life for fast promotions.

Unregistered 22-11-2015 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jrbearus (Post 75500)
Data is incomplete!

Non-graduate scheme (if no decision is taken to transfer to common scheme for both graduate and non-graduate)
B+ 1.6
B 1.5
B- 1.4
C+ 1.25
C 0.85

MXS 12/13
B 2.5
C+ 2
C 1.5

MXS 11
B 3
B- 2.85
C+ 2.5
C 1.75

MXS 10
C 2.5

How about mx11a?

jrbearus 23-11-2015 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 75623)
How about mx11a?

Similar to MX11

jrbearus 24-11-2015 03:40 PM

Not budging, so 0.5 months for EOY

Unregistered 24-11-2015 10:18 PM

should be between 0.5-0.7 due to economic growth unless govt want to give us extra present for us.

jrbearus 25-11-2015 12:53 PM

Further negotiation on the eoy. So maybe higher than 0.5

Unregistered 01-02-2016 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jrbearus (Post 75500)
Data is incomplete!

Non-graduate scheme (if no decision is taken to transfer to common scheme for both graduate and non-graduate)
B+ 1.6
B 1.5
B- 1.4
C+ 1.25
C 0.85

MXS 12/13
B 2.5
C+ 2
C 1.5

MXS 11
B 3
B- 2.85
C+ 2.5
C 1.75

MXS 10
C 2.5

Strange. There's B- grade? It's only applicable for Education Officers.

Unregistered 07-02-2016 01:10 AM

MX11 vs MX11A PB
 
Can anyone shed light on MX11A bonus ranges vs MX11? My ministry told me no difference while I heard other ministries had. So since 2015 was first round, can we compare pl?

Unregistered 07-02-2016 11:20 AM

PB coming soon. It is also an indication whether the officer will be promoted or not.

Huat Ah !

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 79470)
Can anyone shed light on MX11A bonus ranges vs MX11? My ministry told me no difference while I heard other ministries had. So since 2015 was first round, can we compare pl?


Unregistered 10-02-2016 01:17 PM

Hi hi!

Anyone can share about PAL scheme bonus range as well?

Unregistered 10-02-2016 06:22 PM

PAL is PA scheme. Quite unique..

Unregistered 10-02-2016 07:23 PM

When will we know our grade and the bonus amount arh? When April payslip is out?

Unregistered 10-02-2016 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 79482)
PB coming soon. It is also an indication whether the officer will be promoted or not.

Huat Ah !

Civil service one year bonus how many times? I thought year end last year have bonus already.

Unregistered 10-02-2016 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 79594)
PAL is PA scheme. Quite unique..

Ya lor , so just wondering Any one have idea or heard of anything about PAL bonus?

Unregistered 10-02-2016 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 79597)
Civil service one year bonus how many times? I thought year end last year have bonus already.

Let me the veteran in civil service enlighten you. Pb is paid in end March - solely dependent on performance. Separately in July and Dec, cs will receive a standard mid-year and year-end bonuses which are dependent on singapore's economic situation. Overall, pb ranges from 1 - 3.5 months whilst overall generic bonus ranges from 1.75-2.5 months

Unregistered 10-02-2016 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 45420)
Stop judgin others usin ur microscopic mind... Stop feedin ur own ego by tramping on others! U r not perfect either. So what if the previous post was full of grammatically errors? Who sets the rules that one has to b grammatically perfect/construct sentences in perfect English on an Internet forum?

What a shame that the civil service are saturated with people who think too highly of themselves, because of their outstanding academic credentials...

Btw, are u a scholar or someone with first class honours?

Kudos to U for standing up and voicing out to people who seems self righteous and full of themselves esp when they have not walked the path others had. Be kind to yourselves-one finger pointing to others 3 pointing at yourselves. Whenever I read virtual messages that were too critical, one wonders how they must judge...some who could won't, some who couldn't, wants to judge.

Unregistered 10-02-2016 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 65253)
For ministry ppl, have you all received your PB for this year?

I read one message saying if you are not ministry PPl you don't need to know and I just laugh it off at her/his high handedness. Really no need to be so rude. It is a public info, in any case. We'd know by mid March;)

Watatatal 16-02-2016 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 79602)
Kudos to U for standing up and voicing out to people who seems self righteous and full of themselves esp when they have not walked the path others had. Be kind to yourselves-one finger pointing to others 3 pointing at yourselves. Whenever I read virtual messages that were too critical, one wonders how they must judge...some who could won't, some who couldn't, wants to judge.

er... buddy. that post was in 2013.. how far back were you reading? lol..

btw anywhos... anyone know if pb will be on 20th like last year or 18 or 25th.

ive been noticing a pattern of PB release on Fridays. Any Civil service vets can confirm?

Unregistered 16-02-2016 03:25 PM

Haha actually put things in perspective, people's comments over these two years are the same-don't really change. Hence, so what if 2013😊

Unregistered 16-02-2016 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Watatatal (Post 79875)

btw anywhos... anyone know if pb will be on 20th like last year or 18 or 25th.

ive been noticing a pattern of PB release on Fridays. Any Civil service vets can confirm?

Wow need to be so specific ah? Buying 4-D or Toto? Well, if you ask me, one year it was announced on Saturday. Another year yes 20th, (I looked into my crystal ball - this year head civil service/psd and authorities will make annoucement by 19th!) let me know also if you are betting (& win the bet)

JcH 16-02-2016 08:20 PM

Hi! May I know PB is calculated based on calender year or financial year? Thank you

Unregistered 16-02-2016 11:12 PM

Calendar year in the sense that it's your performance for the entire year. When you are appraised it is based on jan-dec. however, funding proposal wise will always be financial year. Why is this info critical?


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