From the last email, unlikely unless u are doing some high profile project. Get extended would be a more likely chance

Good also. Keeping to their word. Cut off those unwanted fats

I don’t mind being layoff as long as they pay me 1 month salary for each year worked. I am pretty sure GDS ppl can find good jobs else where.

Uh if they're the fat, by definition they aren't doing much to begin with. Isn't getting monthly salary on an ongoing basis while working a cushy job better than a severance package?

Working in Govtech considered cushy job?

hahaha. stat board won't layoff la. at most redeploy staff and go through 劳改 level retraining/PIP to 'encourage' them to find other jobs.

heard many PIC packing bags. How true?

Sure won't lay off. Dont renew those contract staff can alr lo

Pic is the ex indeed team? Jolly well lo. Not sure what contributions did they do

Mdr
 

Will MDR be reviewed and changed every year? Will it end up decreasing instead of increasing?

I dont think so. Only change is your annual increment ba

Wouldn't be so sure. Job market is bad now...

people worry about headcount on their teams still got time to demand higher salary meh?

i happy liao if everyone got their headcount renewed.

if they want to cut MDR so be it rather than seeing people leaving because they don't have options

Those individual contributor who are perm no need think of all these
Sure got job since perm alr

And these are not small amount of ppl. U still have to satisfy these bunch

Not easy to reduce these numbers. try to lower pay and and some politican said that it will lead to corruption.

So the other option is to freeze perm headcount. But then still need to take care of parachutists and connected people - but the reason why they need to be taken care of is that they cannot make it elsewhere, so don't expect good stuff there.

You want to digitize the government and yet got so much dirty thing out there, how can you do it via open algorithms? you can only manage it using a select cadre and the 'you know i know' secret handshake.

Will there be any impact between permanent roles with a 2-year contract and those without a contract?

Either you are temp, or you are perm. both involve contracts. it is a clear cut distinction. anyone who is trying to say otherwise or claim it is a hybrid of both is trying to con you.

All jobs have a contract, what are you talking about. But generally, when people say "perm" and "contract", they mean:

Perm = perm until you quit or get fired

Contract = employed for a fixed duration, e.g. 2 years, and either renewed, or leave at the end of 2 years upon expiry.

Sorry there is no such thing as "sure got job". If your post no longer exists (as will happen to some roles), the staff will have to find a new role. So better to build the relevant competencies now and go for internal hiring before it's too late. If you cannot be redeployed, then good luck to you, even if you are perm staff. On the other hand, if you are relevant, then you will have a future in the organisation, even if you are contract staff.

If you are perm staff, stat board like govtech will not fire you lah. at most redeploy to role without responsibility or find other stat boards/GLC to dump to (e.g. educational institutions) or at the very last resort offer "golden handshake".

You are completely mistaken. Everyone has to pull their weight. Otherwise, bye bye. And from your last sentence, you have quite an active imagination.

I agree to some extend. I seen jlb in Govtech. They only do bare minimum only. They work in Govtech very long alr, so know how to play the game without getting spotlight

So what if get C? Or even C-? Just do bare minimum u will survive.

Only those on direct contract or third party need worry.

Perm staff just do as per normal, will surely survive la

As my previous post, in a nice way everyone must pull their weight la, do their part la bla bla bla.

But in reality, if u want chiong then put in additional effort. Those lao jiao dont even want to take credit. Just pay my salary can alr. Got bonus and increment? Awesome. Otherwise nvm

In a way sure. U sign up for any job also considered sign a contract.

Last time my friend and i did well also get C cause need to give higher grade to certain people as they need to be promoted. LanJiao grading system, KPI is how many people under you or how many meetings you attended

its not about performance, its how well you kiss your RO ass or be your RO's dog. tats the talent they are looking for haaaaa..joke

Hey guys, can someone please share with me more about the learning opportunities at GovTech as an SWE? Do y’all think it is a good place to grow as an engineer and learn new things? Or is it v constrained? Thanks in advance!

They hiring u as swe? Recently? Govtech GDS?

Yes it is a good place to learn and grow as an SWE in GovTech GDS. There are not many companies in SG which has a relatively large group of SWEs; this provides the scale, opportunities and room for professional growth. Although there are some hiring constraints recently I would say it is still a good place if given the opportunity.

don't put all your work on the latest and new fangled stuff. don't put all your work into systems that is only used internally and nowhere else.

put more effort into learning things that are transferable to other organizations. e.g. windows / linux administration, open source software etc.

for a stat board (including govtech) and GLCs, this is a feature and not a bug.

this culture of meritocractic mediocrity helps to make sure that nothing changes or if changes have to happen, it goes extremely slowly.

if you want to do any of the move fast, earn big bucks, work on cutting edge tech stuff, don't join govt. no point making changing govt meet your expectations (hahaha)

Any idea the possiblity of converting from outsourced contact to Govtech?

Unless u are well known for your coding skills or actually save mankind, dont think so

oh please, if can so good save mankind why join govtech? can join SpaceX for more tok kong mission goals -> colonize mars.

anyway govtech is still as stat board. no need to be inventive, just follow policy collect salary.

Indeed sagat how? All under the carpet liao? Everyone happi

No one stir means good news

Not bad ah, at least govtech and agd ok to shift back to Feb credit salary to help with the credit interest

Unfortunately SpaceX and NASA need security clearance to join. Don’t think most SGporeans can pass it. Not 100% sure what the requirements are tho cause I only briefly looked at the role.

The next best thing in SG in terms of public good is to build systems to advance our healthcare etc and to support our ministries and citizens.

As govtechies, we are here to contribute our skillsets to make a meaningful difference in the lives of SGporeans and set an example in the world stage.

That’s why we are here and develop our efforts and improve our skills constantly for the good of the people. As such, we are expected to be compensated fairly for our efforts and strive to be the best to fulfill the purpose of making the world a better place.

Sure money is important, but as long as it is competitive, we are here for the good.

Looks like one unit of indeed is not enough for the dce. He is recently doing hackathon with ogp. Maybe he wants to join them instead and be their lead engineer