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mikeho123 07-05-2017 08:53 AM

GovTech
 
Hi,

Anyone working at govTech can advise?
Any idea fresh graduate with honors from local university should enter what which grade? and what is the salary range?
Seems like that have Grade 1 to 14. 1 is the lowest and 14 the highest. Correct me if i am wrong.

Unregistered 05-06-2017 10:58 PM

Salary for 1st class fresh graduate is 4.9-5k range. Not sure about the exact grade

Unregistered 05-06-2017 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 97840)
Salary for 1st class fresh graduate is 4.9-5k range. Not sure about the exact grade

Around 3.5k more likely, remember they pay 4-6 months bonus, base is quite low because of that
Starts at grade 7, assistant manager
Grade 8 & 9 are manager, 10&11 senior manager, 12 AD (starts to enjoy double corporate bonus)

Unregistered 06-06-2017 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 97842)
Around 3.5k more likely, remember they pay 4-6 months bonus, base is quite low because of that
Starts at grade 7, assistant manager
Grade 8 & 9 are manager, 10&11 senior manager, 12 AD (starts to enjoy double corporate bonus)

What is double corporate bonus?

Unregistered 07-06-2017 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 97845)
What is double corporate bonus?

besides 12months + aws (13th month), the bonuses break into a few component:

market adjustment: typically less than 1 month
corporate bonus: when corporate KPIs are met, typically around 1 month, grade 12 and above receive twice of this number
individual performance bonus: how good you perform (or how good your RO and NLS perceive), typically 2-3 month for average performer

Unregistered 09-06-2017 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 97842)
Around 3.5k more likely, remember they pay 4-6 months bonus, base is quite low because of that
Starts at grade 7, assistant manager
Grade 8 & 9 are manager, 10&11 senior manager, 12 AD (starts to enjoy double corporate bonus)

My information is not speculation, fresh graduates with first class are indeed offered 4,9XX, just like DSTA (by the way that's last year graduates' starting pay, they are going to adjust it again for this year's graduating batch)

Unregistered 04-08-2017 08:10 AM

anyone knows g10 typical monthly salary range?
g9-10 is consultant right?
on average should i take 15 or 16 months package for calculation?

Unregistered 04-08-2017 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 99248)
anyone knows g10 typical monthly salary range?
g9-10 is consultant right?
on average should i take 15 or 16 months package for calculation?

Roughly 10-12k on a 18 months package.

Unregistered 04-08-2017 10:12 PM

g10 got 10k? not even senior consultant.. 18 months.. maybe be super high flyer.. probably this salary range is for high flyer?

Unregistered 07-08-2017 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 99272)
g10 got 10k? not even senior consultant.. 18 months.. maybe be super high flyer.. probably this salary range is for high flyer?

I think what was meant was, 10k x 12 mths = 120k package over 18 months?
Hence, monthly base is actually 120k/18 months = 6.6k per month

Unregistered 07-08-2017 09:44 AM

g10 average gross base pay is around 6k ~ 7k.

as for bonus, it depends. some guy here already gave the components. in real terms, the best I've ever got (average+ performer) was 5 months (pre 2008). Post 2008 GFC when economy tanked, it was 2 months. In all likelyhood, it is going to be around 3 months.

realistically, a g10's total package will be around 100k, inclusive of aws. 6.5k x 16 months = 104k.

-> from pre-govtech/IDA days.

Unregistered 08-08-2017 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 99318)
I think what was meant was, 10k x 12 mths = 120k package over 18 months?
Hence, monthly base is actually 120k/18 months = 6.6k per month

18 months quite optimistic huh? probably use 15 months for calculation? aws+vb? heard there are some market adjustment thingy. any idea how it works?

Unregistered 08-08-2017 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 99322)
g10 average gross base pay is around 6k ~ 7k.

as for bonus, it depends. some guy here already gave the components. in real terms, the best I've ever got (average+ performer) was 5 months (pre 2008). Post 2008 GFC when economy tanked, it was 2 months. In all likelyhood, it is going to be around 3 months.

realistically, a g10's total package will be around 100k, inclusive of aws. 6.5k x 16 months = 104k.

-> from pre-govtech/IDA days.

can advise what are the bonus components and average month?
aws = 1
vb = 1
company performance = 1
what else?

also where can we go after career in GovTech? end user?

Unregistered 09-08-2017 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 99360)
can advise what are the bonus components and average month?
aws = 1
vb = 1
company performance = 1
what else?

also where can we go after career in GovTech? end user?

Borrow from earlier post. It is more of less accurate.

market adjustment: typically less than 1 month
corporate bonus: when corporate KPIs are met, typically around 1 month, grade 12 and above receive twice of this number
individual performance bonus: how good you perform (or how good your RO and NLS perceive), typically 2-3 month for average performer

Go anywhere also can lah. Have friends who left for private sector as well as public sector.
Of course, if you spend too long there, it will be harder to adapt.

Unregistered 09-08-2017 02:17 PM

so is it safe to base on average a 16 months package?
aws (1) individual performance (2) corporate + market adjustment (1)

Unregistered 09-08-2017 04:38 PM

Yes, 16 months on a 6k -7k per m is reasonable rule of thumb. I left at g10 around that range 2 years ago.

Unregistered 09-08-2017 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 99375)
Yes, 16 months on a 6k -7k per m is reasonable rule of thumb. I left at g10 around that range 2 years ago.

how many years of experience do you have when you are on g10?

Unregistered 09-08-2017 11:46 PM

can advise what's the average increment and when is the increment period?

Unregistered 10-08-2017 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 99384)
can advise what's the average increment and when is the increment period?

Can I add on? What is the grade for a senior project manager?

Unregistered 10-08-2017 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 99377)
how many years of experience do you have when you are on g10?

I joined at g9 in 2007 with around 4 years of experience (technically, it is longer but it's complicated) and left in 2015 at g10.

It's alright but I left because I was not promoted to g11 due to circumstance beyond my control.

Unregistered 10-08-2017 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 99384)
can advise what's the average increment and when is the increment period?

I recall it was around 4%? Might have changed. It comes together with the annual bonus which is given out in the June payroll.

Unregistered 16-08-2017 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 97918)
My information is not speculation, fresh graduates with first class are indeed offered 4,9XX, just like DSTA (by the way that's last year graduates' starting pay, they are going to adjust it again for this year's graduating batch)

TS asking about govtech. It is public knowledge that that the defense trio (Dstar Dso Csit)offers high salary due to more possibly non transferable or declarable skills and of course security clearance .

Unregistered 17-08-2017 08:19 AM

Male FCH 2015 - $5,900 (21MONTH PACKAGE)

Unregistered 18-08-2017 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 99580)
Male FCH 2015 - $5,900 (21MONTH PACKAGE)

lol .. troll is cfm nt frm cs .. with ceiling cap and grade cap ..5.9 and 21 months is IMPOSSIBLE..

Assuming u grad in 2015

Source : i m frm CS HR

Unregistered 20-08-2017 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 99564)
TS asking about govtech. It is public knowledge that that the defense trio (Dstar Dso Csit)offers high salary due to more possibly non transferable or declarable skills and of course security clearance .

And yes, the answer was given for GovTech. I'm merely offering a comparison of what graduates can command in other stat boards. There are examples of 5k+ starting salaries for a fresh masters graudate (direct masters local Uni) at IE Singapore. High 4K is not a fake figure.

Unregistered 21-08-2017 03:00 PM

What is the grade of a senior project manager?
 
Hi, What is the grade given to a senior project manager?
Any idea of what is the salary range?

Unregistered 15-10-2017 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 99684)
Hi, What is the grade given to a senior project manager?
Any idea of what is the salary range?

G11 -around 6 to 9k

Unregistered 15-10-2017 01:14 AM

AD Grade
 
Receive a call to go for interview for an AD post with one of the ministry doing IT ...

What is the grade for AD? My current annual paid is about 180k ..( bank )

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Unregistered 15-10-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 100954)
Receive a call to go for interview for an AD post with one of the ministry doing IT ...

What is the grade for AD? My current annual paid is about 180k ..( bank )

They won't be able to match your current pay, so forget it. AD is a glorified senior manager's job.

At 180k, you will be pegged to a MX9 grade by the PSD scale or a GovTech G13 grade. Either of those grades are usually for a director level.

Unregistered 16-10-2017 08:56 PM

Matched
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 100963)
They won't be able to match your current pay, so forget it. AD is a glorified senior manager's job.

At 180k, you will be pegged to a MX9 grade by the PSD scale or a GovTech G13 grade. Either of those grades are usually for a director level.

Government AD Equals to most bank VP level ..... not too bad for job stability

Which ministry posting?

Unregistered 18-10-2017 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 101000)
Government AD Equals to most bank VP level .

I think you may have misread my post.

In any case, titles like senior manager, VP are used loosely in Singapore, both public and private sectors.

My experience (and it is just a generalization, since my experience in the government is limited to, 1 ministry, 2 statboards) is:
  • AD salary is equal pegged around MX10, which averages 120k ~ 130k PA.
  • Agencies, especially statboards have some flexibility in title and pay; that's why some agencies skip the AD title and replace with SM. Some have a Senior AD instead.
  • As a rule of thumb/generalization, my opinion is an DD's average is from 145k PA and up.

In other words, anyone looking for a job in the public service needs to study the compensation carefully instead of looking at the job title.

As for Bank VP, there are others more knowledgeable than me on this subject but 170 ~ 180k PA would not be far off... for a local bank.

Hope this helps.

Unregistered 14-11-2017 01:17 AM

Hi all, Imma fresh grad (second upper) applying to work Govtech.

Any comments on culture at Govtech?
Whats the average salary for a fresh grad?
(I do have about one year of internship experience if that makes a difference)

Unregistered 15-11-2017 05:39 PM

Senior manager , AD , DD , D
 
Does the job title standardized across agency/stat-board ? Getting confuse ...

One of my friend joining in as AD under grader 12 with salary 9K for a large ministry , another friend joining as Senior manager with grade 11 with Salary 11K under stat board .


Both have working experience about 15 years .

Why such big differences ?

Unregistered 15-11-2017 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 101833)
Does the job title standardized across agency/stat-board ? Getting confuse ...

One of my friend joining in as AD under grader 12 with salary 9K for a large ministry , another friend joining as Senior manager with grade 11 with Salary 11K under stat board .


Both have working experience about 15 years .

Why such big differences ?

I know someone joining as Deputy Director with salary of 8K ... small stat board .

Unregistered 16-11-2017 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 101833)
Does the job title standardized across agency/stat-board ? Getting confuse ...

One of my friend joining in as AD under grader 12 with salary 9K for a large ministry , another friend joining as Senior manager with grade 11 with Salary 11K under stat board .


Both have working experience about 15 years .

Why such big differences ?

Stat boards were created by the government to take charge of running specific domain areas, with the flexibility akin the private organizations (unlike their parent Ministries). While they freely borrow job titles from the Ministries or each other, their pay structures can be drastically different.

Agencies are supposed to be self-sufficient in where possible through the fees that they collect (agencies that act as regulators for example). In cases that they are not, they get funded by the government.

And that is the clue. A statboard like say, National Heritage Board, do that regulate and collect any major fees? It is safe to say that the amount the collect for entrance fees to the museums would barely cover the operating costs.

Given this situation do you think a manager in NHB will get the similar salary range than say MAS or LTA?

Anakinsky 09-01-2018 10:27 PM

My friend told me govtech had revamp their job grade to alphabetical like A B C D ...


Anyone know how it mapped to old scheme ?

Unregistered 16-01-2018 12:52 PM

New
 
What is the difference in the 1st and 2nd interview?

Unregistered 21-01-2018 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 100963)
They won't be able to match your current pay, so forget it. AD is a glorified senior manager's job.

At 180k, you will be pegged to a MX9 grade by the PSD scale or a GovTech G13 grade. Either of those grades are usually for a director level.

AD should be G12

Unregistered 22-03-2018 06:42 PM

What is the entry grade for fresh grad? How much are they paying?


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