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Unregistered 09-12-2012 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31408)
Interested to work as Senior Prison Officer as ASP1. Not sure how is the salary like after 5 yrs. It was mentioned the starting salary is 3610 to 4370.

Anyone knows how is the salary like after 5 yrs and beyond?

I completed NS. Not a scholar with first class.

for 1st class, after 5 years, can hit at least 6k-6.5k minimum, if good can hit 7k-8k

Unregistered 11-12-2012 05:35 PM

1st class, male with NS in EMA for 4-5 years can command how much pay?

Unregistered 13-12-2012 12:48 AM

MX9 is superscale?

What does superscale mean?

Unregistered 13-12-2012 08:10 PM

How much is fair?
 
31 years old

NS, Pass Degree (NUS Engineering), 5 yrs non relevant working experience.

Stat board offers $3.3k for Manager position (MX12)

Too low?

Unregistered 13-12-2012 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31552)
31 years old

NS, Pass Degree (NUS Engineering), 5 yrs non relevant working experience.

Stat board offers $3.3k for Manager position (MX12)

Too low?

You only have a pass degree from a local uni.Be glad they even offered you the job and be happy they give you that much. I started at 3k 7 years ago with an honors degree.

Unregistered 13-12-2012 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31552)
31 years old

NS, Pass Degree (NUS Engineering), 5 yrs non relevant working experience.

Stat board offers $3.3k for Manager position (MX12)

Too low?

It's actually alright, because I would be looking at 3400.. If you had joined the uniform services, it would probably be 3700.

Unregistered 14-12-2012 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31557)
It's actually alright, because I would be looking at 3400.. If you had joined the uniform services, it would probably be 3700.

I had the impression based on looking at the previous posts in this thread that I can realistically get mid to high 3k. Currently drawing 4.3k in the private industry (IT) but company is going under. No AWS and bonus freeze. Company is undergoing a retrenchment exercise.

I guess the figures here are over-inflated.

Unregistered 14-12-2012 12:49 AM

To the guy who is interested to be a senior prison officer. Have you even been interviewed for the position? Not every one could get in. There are usually hundreds of applications for each senior officer position. Anyway, the pay u get is dependent on your ability and rank. Doesn't mean that you enter as an ASP means you will be guaranteed higher or better pay 5 years down the road. If your performance is not up to par, dun be surprised that you are getting paid less than others who joined at a lower rank.

Unregistered 14-12-2012 11:03 AM

How much can a DD earn in let's say a government related board like SP power? 5-10 years experience.

Unregistered 14-12-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31570)
How much can a DD earn in let's say a government related board like SP power? 5-10 years experience.

You cannot be a DD with just 5-10 yrs exp unless is scholar. SP is a GLC, not stat board.

Unregistered 14-12-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31572)
You cannot be a DD with just 5-10 yrs exp unless is scholar. SP is a GLC, not stat board.

Oh... What about a typical DD there. What would be the average salary working as DD for a year already. And is the ranking DD high there? There's countless DDs there.

Unregistered 14-12-2012 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31589)
Oh... What about a typical DD there. What would be the average salary working as DD for a year already. And is the ranking DD high there? There's countless DDs there.

DD is consider junior level manager 8-9k+

Unregistered 15-12-2012 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31559)
To the guy who is interested to be a senior prison officer. Have you even been interviewed for the position? Not every one could get in. There are usually hundreds of applications for each senior officer position. Anyway, the pay u get is dependent on your ability and rank. Doesn't mean that you enter as an ASP means you will be guaranteed higher or better pay 5 years down the road. If your performance is not up to par, dun be surprised that you are getting paid less than others who joined at a lower rank.

Hi thanks for the information. Based on your understanding, is a pay like 7K consider average for senior prison officer after 5 yrs? I state 7K as I am comparing to maybe an average banker after 5 yrs (not sure is it the average bankers pay after 5 yrs; based on hearing basis).

Unregistered 15-12-2012 11:29 PM

need some advice. how much does an Assistant Director in NTUC earns? the role is a corporate support role.

Unregistered 17-12-2012 05:43 PM

i am also curious how much NTUC pay

Unregistered 17-12-2012 06:31 PM

is it true that a SIM - UOL graduate cannot enter the civil service as a non-uniformed staff?

Unregistered 17-12-2012 08:34 PM

Well, I believe so.. considering me and my friends from NUS took quite a while for applying to government jobs.. too many applicants..

lmaohaha 17-12-2012 09:07 PM

anyone knows how much does a fresh grad 2nd upper guy earn in ura?

Unregistered 17-12-2012 10:33 PM

someone said 5 yrs exp and 3.4K,
and u all saying he should be happy?

No offense to the posters, we are anonymous. but that sounds really low, especially because i thought govt pay pretty high compared to private sector for degree holders in early career and who are not in the upper leagues, but just "regular folk" who comprise the drones in MNCs large and small, and SMCs.

Unregistered 17-12-2012 10:42 PM

reading thru the posts, do you guys think joining army is a competitive option paywise?
for degree holders that is.

looks like starting pay already can get 4K.
might never have a reasonable chance of 5 digits maybe, but how many folks actually make it to 5 digit in private sector. In army, if you eventually "give up" you can just go through the motion. In pvt sector, if you "give up", you still have to show enthusiasm and curry favour here and there just to survive and hold onto you paycheck. also, join army free you of the fantasy of earning big bucks which could take a toll on your psychology..,.especially as you grow older and older and if unfortunately you aren't moving as fast up as you wished. besides, if wanting to stay in pvt sector for the sake of flexible scalability of pay...probably should aim for commission type jobs only.

opinions?

me considering military career le.

Unregistered 17-12-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31667)
reading thru the posts, do you guys think joining army is a competitive option paywise?


<snip>

me considering military career le.

Keep in mind as a military man, if there is war, your life is on the line. You may argue that your life is on the line anyway as you are an NSMan but more is expected of career soldiers.

Unregistered 17-12-2012 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31666)
someone said 5 yrs exp and 3.4K,
and u all saying he should be happy?

No offense to the posters, we are anonymous. but that sounds really low, especially because i thought govt pay pretty high compared to private sector for degree holders in early career and who are not in the upper leagues, but just "regular folk" who comprise the drones in MNCs large and small, and SMCs.

agreed that 3.4k for 5 years exp is pretty low.
he should be placed in MX12.
based on my estimate, in the civil service:
pass degree, management exec - 2800
2 years NS - 360
5 years non relevant exp - 800

that would total up to about 3960.
then again, his agency is a stat board, which has their own HR policies.

Unregistered 18-12-2012 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31408)
Interested to work as Senior Prison Officer as ASP1. Not sure how is the salary like after 5 yrs. It was mentioned the starting salary is 3610 to 4370.

Anyone knows how is the salary like after 5 yrs and beyond?

I completed NS. Not a scholar with first class.

Please consider carefully if you want to join as a uniformed personnel.

You need to be fit to pass IPPT for promotion.
Yes Sir Yes Sir 3 bags full (Rank, everything about them)
Senior Prison Officer need to be a housing unit OC for the first 2 years minimum. Virtually you are a prisoner yourself. After that, you will be posted as a staff officer for minimum 2 years. Throughout, you will need not perform cyclic shift unlike the JOs but have to work on alternate Sats.
Pay is high when you first join. Every year increment is minimum and you will see your pay rise slowly until you get your next promotion.
Promotion is dependent on getting the right things done for your customer (your boss).
For the first 2 years, stay out of trouble. Once marked, it is difficult to flip. (Your next superior have to write a good report to justify your improvement and not many people are willing to do that)
Competitive environment. Everyone wants to be promoted.
Young 55 years old retirement age. Can be reemployed but that is dependent on performance.

Good stable job though.

My 2 cents. :)

Unregistered 18-12-2012 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31672)
Please consider carefully if you want to join as a uniformed personnel.

You need to be fit to pass IPPT for promotion.
Yes Sir Yes Sir 3 bags full (Rank, everything about them)
Senior Prison Officer need to be a housing unit OC for the first 2 years minimum. Virtually you are a prisoner yourself. After that, you will be posted as a staff officer for minimum 2 years. Throughout, you will need not perform cyclic shift unlike the JOs but have to work on alternate Sats.
Pay is high when you first join. Every year increment is minimum and you will see your pay rise slowly until you get your next promotion.
Promotion is dependent on getting the right things done for your customer (your boss).
For the first 2 years, stay out of trouble. Once marked, it is difficult to flip. (Your next superior have to write a good report to justify your improvement and not many people are willing to do that)
Competitive environment. Everyone wants to be promoted.
Young 55 years old retirement age. Can be reemployed but that is dependent on performance.

Good stable job though.

My 2 cents. :)

Hi can i ask is the retirement age of 55yo the same for all uniform group? eg. SPF/ICA

After the retirement age of 55yo do most ex-officer get to be redeployed somewhere with a gov job?

Unregistered 19-12-2012 09:19 PM

What is a typical salary in Ministry of Law, anyone know?
For degree holder position.
With every year of outside non-related experience...how much extra?

Unregistered 21-12-2012 05:56 PM

Hi,

Wondering if anyone can answer my enquiry please.

If I were to enter the civil sector in January, will I be eligible for AI in April or no, considering that I am on probation.

Thanks!

wern 21-12-2012 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31712)
What is a typical salary in Ministry of Law, anyone know?
For degree holder position.
With every year of outside non-related experience...how much extra?

were you at the interview? haha.

lmaohaha 22-12-2012 11:38 PM

is the a higher chance of failure (ie less number of candidates filtered off) at the first or second interview in public sector?

Unregistered 25-12-2012 10:20 PM

any civil servants who got enrolled in the hi-po programme? Would like to find out more about it esp those who are already inside.

Yowe555 26-12-2012 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31749)
Hi,

Wondering if anyone can answer my enquiry please.

If I were to enter the civil sector in January, will I be eligible for AI in April or no, considering that I am on probation.

Thanks!

No, since you have not even gotten your confirmation. As well as grading already finish end Dec. You wldnt even have a grade, so what kinda increment wld u expect to have idiot?

Unregistered 28-12-2012 01:51 AM

Could someone please enlighten me what does "superscale" means?

annabella 28-12-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31934)
Could someone please enlighten me what does "superscale" means?

those high post people lor.

Unregistered 28-12-2012 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31934)
Could someone please enlighten me what does "superscale" means?

Good question. Think in the Civil Service employment salary schemes, there is the daily rated, timescale and superscale pay ranges.

The daily rated are for those who are paid daily obviously. Usually low skilled jobs.
Most civil servants would be in the timescale category. The timescale salary range is quite wide, and has many bands / bars in the range. A typical servant would start in a certain band and will get a fixed yearly increment till he/she crosses the next bar through promotion. If he/she cannot get promoted, that he/she will hit the maximum limit within that band after a few years and stay put.

For those with high potential for greater responsibilities, they will be promoted out of the timescale scheme onto the superscale scheme where the increment and bonuses are not so fixed and very dependent of meeting performance targets (KPI). I think the superscale starting salary is around $12K per month.

I could be outdated.

Unregistered 28-12-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Yowe555 (Post 31855)
No, since you have not even gotten your confirmation. As well as grading already finish end Dec. You wldnt even have a grade, so what kinda increment wld u expect to have idiot?

Firstly, thanks for your answer. Secondly, I do not think that insults are necessary as it was simply an innocent question. We are all civilized people here.

From what I read and from my understanding, there would be two increments, one due to performance and one would be the annual increment of about 4%? I am only due to start my job in January and so I am not too clear about the system yet. I was just wondering even if on probation, if I would be eligible for a pro-rated increment for the Annual increment and NOT the performance increment.

Unregistered 28-12-2012 07:01 PM

Or am I wrong in my understanding and the two increments are essentially lumped together? Clarification would be much appreciated.

Thank You.

anonymous88 28-12-2012 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31668)
Keep in mind as a military man, if there is war, your life is on the line. You may argue that your life is on the line anyway as you are an NSMan but more is expected of career soldiers.

lol and whats the odds of sg going to war?

Unregistered 28-12-2012 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by anonymous88 (Post 31961)
lol and whats the odds of sg going to war?

not to mention a shitty and bochup (i.e all guys, all nsf) work environment. No amount of money will ever entice me to work for such a stupid and senseless organization. Regulars like to whine about their so called 'office politics' in camp when they haven't seen **** yet. When real life decision making starts to involve thousands, millions of dollars of your client's money and the prospects of your future career lie delicately in your hands, the claws and horns are whipped out for an all out bloodfest.

The so called SAF 'office politics' I ever hear of are fat lazy officers whining about being arrowed for DO duty. pathetic.

Unregistered 28-12-2012 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31672)
Please consider carefully if you want to join as a uniformed personnel.

You need to be fit to pass IPPT for promotion.
Yes Sir Yes Sir 3 bags full (Rank, everything about them)
Senior Prison Officer need to be a housing unit OC for the first 2 years minimum. Virtually you are a prisoner yourself. After that, you will be posted as a staff officer for minimum 2 years. Throughout, you will need not perform cyclic shift unlike the JOs but have to work on alternate Sats.
Pay is high when you first join. Every year increment is minimum and you will see your pay rise slowly until you get your next promotion.
Promotion is dependent on getting the right things done for your customer (your boss).
For the first 2 years, stay out of trouble. Once marked, it is difficult to flip. (Your next superior have to write a good report to justify your improvement and not many people are willing to do that)
Competitive environment. Everyone wants to be promoted.
Young 55 years old retirement age. Can be reemployed but that is dependent on performance.

Good stable job though.

My 2 cents. :)

Seem that it is still better working in a bank. Prospect of higher salary

Yowe555 29-12-2012 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31956)
Firstly, thanks for your answer. Secondly, I do not think that insults are necessary as it was simply an innocent question. We are all civilized people here.

From what I read and from my understanding, there would be two increments, one due to performance and one would be the annual increment of about 4%? I am only due to start my job in January and so I am not too clear about the system yet. I was just wondering even if on probation, if I would be eligible for a pro-rated increment for the Annual increment and NOT the performance increment.

No, your annual increment is YOUR performance increment. The other kind of increment is called a wage adjustment, if it exists.

Unregistered 29-12-2012 12:16 PM

Csit
 
Hi guys! Would like to check with you guys the job prospect of an IT engineer in Central for strategic Infocomm technology (csit). How is the pay like and the minimum requirement to get into to their mid term scholarship. Does it follow mx scheme? Bonus ? Job advancement at mid career ?

Last but not least, anyone can enlighten me the job prospect of CPIO and its salary structure and future career ?

I'm at second lower in a local U!

Any help will be greatly appreciated.


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