Who is this? And details.

Bro you trying to do pre-action discovery ah

Any idea how much an associate director at drew and Napier earns including bonus?

Should be about 15k

Do dual-qualified (sg) lawyers who're hired at int'l firms only need to be admitted in e.g. E&W/NY/AUS jurisdictions?

Or do they need to apply for/maintain a practising cert as well for that other jurisdiction as well?

Most commonly E&W, sometimes NY (but usually only if the firm does capital markets or int'l arbitration work under NY law - only a handful of firms do in Sg), and rarely Australia.

You'd generally need to maintain a practicing cert for both jurisdictions. In my experience your firm will organise/pay for the application and renewal. For E&W, renewal is done once a year in bulk.

this is helpful, good to know thanks!

need to be dual qualified to work for magic circle? as a lateral transfer

Good morning

Currently 1 PQ in disputes and not sure if I should continue disputes or go into corp. Any thoughts?

TIA

Not necessarily but it's helpful. They may also hire you as Sg qualified then pay for your E&W qualification (using the SQE exemption), but generally only if you're 2+PQE. I think the only exception is if you're an Sg NQ who joins the Links E&W program, you'd need to do an E&W TC.

I know milbank has a 1 year policy where if they do decide to hire you and if you you're only sg-qual, they require you to be admitted within 1 year of your employment. That said, they usually prefer to hire dual-quals.

It most likely is the same for other int'l firms. Many of them seem to be dual-qual. If sg-qual only, they're usually fairly new hires.

Unless they're hired in the sg entity or qflp, and are only required to advise on sg law I suppose?

Hi seniors, i’m just wondering whether it is normal/allowed for lawyers to have work phones? Like a personal phone with a personal mobile no. and a work phone with a work number. … Trying to think of ways to preserve my WLB when i start working soon 😝

I'd also add that if you're hired into a more jurisdiction-specific area they might not need you to be dual-qualified. Eg some of the laterally hired disputes lawyers at MC firms are only Sg qualified.

Very normal. Not just in the legal industry but everywhere. Get a cheap Android phone with a reasonable SIM only plan.

Your sanity will thank you for it.

It's super common, and usually your firm (or at least the better ones) will issue you a work phone. Because there are security/confidentiality concerns with letting you to keep work emails or files on your personal devices.

curious question, do looks play a part in hiring?

Any1 know if the non-JLV MC firms pay London rates for associates?

If you’re hired into the Sg side, you’ll get Sg rates - sometimes this is slightly more than B4 (eg CMS, pinsents). If into the UK side (usually much trickier), then typically London rates.

Not outrightly.. but obv if you more attractive people tend to like you more so open more doors. If you not attractive then you need to be good lol.

Hi seniors, clueless Y2 student here looking at rajah and tann’s tax, trust and private client practice area. Any advice on career prospects there?

Malaysian counsel
 

My learned friends, have worked with malaysian counsel on certain deals and matters and I have noticed some being really crappy, especially those who went through twinning route in the past.

Is that a norm, exception or a subconscious bias.

Is this the same poster coming here every so often to bitch about Malaysian lawyers (see examples below)? You are not subtle at all dude. Must be salty because you got replaced by a Malaysian lawyer.

How is Mahesh Rai to work for? Or shumin?

But it's true though. They are just not up to scratch.

Which are the B4 firms still practicing hybrid work arrangements or have all of them implemented a full WFO mandate?

But how is the quality of Malaysian lawyers relevant to this thread? And why is it even newsworthy that lawyers in less developed countries with less sophisticated legal markets would be "not up to scratch"? That's like saying the sky is blue.

Then u go dignify the post by responding for?

What happened to Weng Yan Chow. Curious

Heard from source that she left not too long into her tc lol, apparently her work product was bad and she wasn't a great team player + narcissistic lol

Hi Joel Sherard Chow

Lol you want to fake like you not the OP also not liddat fake one la bro. Ask a qns then 1 min later ownself answer ownself lol.

1. CMS, Pinsent are definitely not MCs. They are also JLVs
2. CMS, Pinsent pay is not higher than Big 4. Big 4 actually gives bonuses.

Do not be fooled by headline figures.

Thoughts about Mayer Brown PKWN JLV? It's the first JLV in a while since 2016

What’s the diff between JLV and FLA?

At entry level, females have an advantage, especially pretty young girls. I guess this is because many partners are male. At partner level, then males have advantage.

JLV means the international entity is an actual joint law venture entity formed as part of the JLV: e.g. Simmons & Simmons JWS Pte. Ltd (the "FLP").

For this, the SLP would be JWS Asia Law Corporation.

In this case, partners and selected associates are either:
• part of the SLP entity only;
• part of the FLP entity only; or
• part of both the SLP and FLP entities.

FLA means there is only a formal law alliance between the SLP and FLA, meaning they share branding/marketing/domain email, etc. but they maintain strict separation of membership of entity: e.g. Ashurst ADTLaw (this is not an actual entity, its just the name of the alliance).

In this case, partners and selected associates are either:
• part of the SLP entity only; or
• part of the FLA entity only.

JLV means the international entity is an actual joint law venture entity formed as part of the JLV: e.g. Simmons & Simmons JWS Pte. Ltd. (the "FLP").

For this, the SLP would be: JWS Asia Law Corporation.

In this case, partners and selected associates are either:

• part of the SLP entity only;
• part of the FLP entity only; or
• part of both the SLP and FLP entities.

FLA means there is only a formal law alliance between the SLP and FLP, meaning they share branding/marketing/domain email, etc. but they maintain strict separation of membership of entity: e.g. Ashurst ADTLaw (this is not an actual entity, its just the name of the alliance).

In this case, partners and selected associates are either:

• part of the SLP entity only; or
• part of the FLP entity only.

[Note: Post amended to correct minor errors from previous post above.]

How much will I earn as a newly qualified solicitor? 💷

Law firm NQ salary
Vinson & Elkins £173,822
Akin Gump £173,254*
Kirkland & Ellis £173,254*
Milbank £173,254*
Latham & Watkins £173,254*
Davis Polk & Wardwell £165,000
Weil Gotshal & Manges £165,000
Paul Hastings £164,000
Gibson Dunn £161,700
Debevoise & Plimpton £160,500
Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton £160,000
Goodwin Procter £160,000
Sidley Austin £159,500
Fried Frank £158,000
King & Spalding £156,000
Cooley £150,000
Willkie Farr & Gallagher £150,000
Ropes & Gray £147,000
Dechert £145,000
Jones Day £145,000
Shearman & Sterling £145,000
Sullivan & Cromwell £145,000
Orrick £140,000
White & Case £140,000
Allen & Overy £125,000
Clifford Chance £125,000
Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer £125,000
Linklaters £125,000
Baker McKenzie £120,000
Herbert Smith Freehills £120,000
Hogan Lovells £120,000
Mayer Brown £120,000
Ashurst £115,000
Macfarlanes £115,000
Slaughter and May £115,000
K&L Gates £110,000
Travers Smith £110,000

://.legalcheek.com/2023/11/money-focus-what-law-firms-pay-their-newly-qualified-lawyers/

These are the top 30+ in London. Any firms on this list that have SG offices which are paying NQs at the same scale as for London? (I'm aware not all firms stated here have SG offices).

what’s the work life balance like in MC firm vs Big4?

Is passing Part B difficult? Seeing many of my peers stressing over the revised syllabus