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Unregistered 11-03-2022 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 207590)
to be honest. Most of the MA program , no matter which organisation, is just a way for the management to discover young talents who have the potential to be given responsibility at a younger age instead of grinding all the way up the organisation

Unfortunately, not everyone who got offered an MA position, will eventually be good enuf to take on that executive role. If they donít see that potential in you, they would just drop u to an department and u grind your way up like a normal employee

MA is to discover talents . Not to give u a safe air ticket to management position before 30

indeed. itís to also create an environment for the MA to succeed. whether the MA can me it or not still up to him

Unregistered 11-03-2022 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 207607)
Damn high calibre then why go singtel? u sure or not.

Can u even make it into singtel or not.

Unregistered 11-03-2022 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 207640)
Can u even make it into singtel or not.

I'm alr in. High calibre. But not "DAMN high calibre". Not president scholar or high finance investment banker.

Unregistered 11-03-2022 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 207607)
Damn high calibre then why go singtel? u sure or not.

I have seen quite a number of trollers out there like you who believe that high calibre university students = getting a job at MBB + IB/S&T + FAANG. Yes, these companies tend to attract high calibre students, but it does not mean other companies do not attract high calibre students.

Singtel MAP for instance does attract high-calibre students. There are a few ivy league students that are actually part of the programme. Also, Singtel MAP has its unique selling point that makes it different from other MAPs out there that makes it possible to attract high-calibre students. Most of the MAPs out there are finance-only. For those people that aren't interested in finance, but do want to join a MAP, Singtel is a great option. Even comparing MAPs like Visa that do offer some options for people to rotate across different functions, it is not as diverse as what Singtel offers. Singtel literally lets their MAPs choose a rotation from a list of 150+ different roles. Some of the roles include strategy, CEO office, VC. Name me a company in Singapore that let's their MAP do a rotation in Strategy or VC.

In addition, FAANG does not hire fresh grads on a regular basis like what other companies do, especially if you are from a non-technical background. Even if you are high calibre student that wants to land a job at FAANG, sometimes, there is simply no job opening for them to even apply.

Also, most of the high calibre international students studying in local universities simply can't get a job at these prestigious companies because they don't hire foreigners as a fresh grad. Just go and google the MAP job postings that was posted by companies such as Microsoft, Visa, JNJ, etc. They explicitly stated in their JD that they only hire people who have existing working rights in Singapore. It is also a well-known fact that banks no longer higher foreigners as a fresh graduate (Yes there are PRCs who do get a job offer from banks, but their headcount is under HK, although they work in Singapore so it is a different story altogether).

'Prestigious companies' like MBB and BB is not for everyone. Yes, you earn 14k as a IB graduate analyst at BB. But you are expected to work 6-7 days a week, until 3-4am. I have a couple of friends decided that IB were not their path as they literally worked every single day until 3am during their whole internship as a summer analyst at the BBs. They ended up accepting a pay that was much lower but they are much happier.

Also, I do know some person who did not know how to answer a single question during the technical interview for a graduate analyst as a S&T + IB, and yet the person managed to receive an offer. You might argue that answering a technical interview well doesn't mean you will get the job. But if you can't even answer a single technical question, are you sure you can call these people high-calibre?????

Unregistered 11-03-2022 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 207660)
I have seen quite a number of trollers out there like you who believe that high calibre university students = getting a job at MBB + IB/S&T + FAANG. Yes, these companies tend to attract high calibre students, but it does not mean other companies do not attract high calibre students.

Singtel MAP for instance does attract high-calibre students. There are a few ivy league students that are actually part of the programme. Also, Singtel MAP has its unique selling point that makes it different from other MAPs out there that makes it possible to attract high-calibre students. Most of the MAPs out there are finance-only. For those people that aren't interested in finance, but do want to join a MAP, Singtel is a great option. Even comparing MAPs like Visa that do offer some options for people to rotate across different functions, it is not as diverse as what Singtel offers. Singtel literally lets their MAPs choose a rotation from a list of 150+ different roles. Some of the roles include strategy, CEO office, VC. Name me a company in Singapore that let's their MAP do a rotation in Strategy or VC.

In addition, FAANG does not hire fresh grads on a regular basis like what other companies do, especially if you are from a non-technical background. Even if you are high calibre student that wants to land a job at FAANG, sometimes, there is simply no job opening for them to even apply.

Also, most of the high calibre international students studying in local universities simply can't get a job at these prestigious companies because they don't hire foreigners as a fresh grad. Just go and google the MAP job postings that was posted by companies such as Microsoft, Visa, JNJ, etc. They explicitly stated in their JD that they only hire people who have existing working rights in Singapore. It is also a well-known fact that banks no longer higher foreigners as a fresh graduate (Yes there are PRCs who do get a job offer from banks, but their headcount is under HK, although they work in Singapore so it is a different story altogether).

'Prestigious companies' like MBB and BB is not for everyone. Yes, you earn 14k as a IB graduate analyst at BB. But you are expected to work 6-7 days a week, until 3-4am. I have a couple of friends decided that IB were not their path as they literally worked every single day until 3am during their whole internship as a summer analyst at the BBs. They ended up accepting a pay that was much lower but they are much happier.

Also, I do know some person who did not know how to answer a single question during the technical interview for a graduate analyst as a S&T + IB, and yet the person managed to receive an offer. You might argue that answering a technical interview well doesn't mean you will get the job. But if you can't even answer a single technical question, are you sure you can call these people high-calibre?????



Yeah I agree with the OP. I mean of course FAANG, BB, MBB will definitely attract more high calibre students but it does not mean that companies like Singtel won't attract high calibre students.

Unregistered 11-03-2022 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 207660)
I have seen quite a number of trollers out there like you who believe that high calibre university students = getting a job at MBB + IB/S&T + FAANG. Yes, these companies tend to attract high calibre students, but it does not mean other companies do not attract high calibre students.

Singtel MAP for instance does attract high-calibre students. There are a few ivy league students that are actually part of the programme. Also, Singtel MAP has its unique selling point that makes it different from other MAPs out there that makes it possible to attract high-calibre students. Most of the MAPs out there are finance-only. For those people that aren't interested in finance, but do want to join a MAP, Singtel is a great option. Even comparing MAPs like Visa that do offer some options for people to rotate across different functions, it is not as diverse as what Singtel offers. Singtel literally lets their MAPs choose a rotation from a list of 150+ different roles. Some of the roles include strategy, CEO office, VC. Name me a company in Singapore that let's their MAP do a rotation in Strategy or VC.

In addition, FAANG does not hire fresh grads on a regular basis like what other companies do, especially if you are from a non-technical background. Even if you are high calibre student that wants to land a job at FAANG, sometimes, there is simply no job opening for them to even apply.

Also, most of the high calibre international students studying in local universities simply can't get a job at these prestigious companies because they don't hire foreigners as a fresh grad. Just go and google the MAP job postings that was posted by companies such as Microsoft, Visa, JNJ, etc. They explicitly stated in their JD that they only hire people who have existing working rights in Singapore. It is also a well-known fact that banks no longer higher foreigners as a fresh graduate (Yes there are PRCs who do get a job offer from banks, but their headcount is under HK, although they work in Singapore so it is a different story altogether).

'Prestigious companies' like MBB and BB is not for everyone. Yes, you earn 14k as a IB graduate analyst at BB. But you are expected to work 6-7 days a week, until 3-4am. I have a couple of friends decided that IB were not their path as they literally worked every single day until 3am during their whole internship as a summer analyst at the BBs. They ended up accepting a pay that was much lower but they are much happier.

Also, I do know some person who did not know how to answer a single question during the technical interview for a graduate analyst as a S&T + IB, and yet the person managed to receive an offer. You might argue that answering a technical interview well doesn't mean you will get the job. But if you can't even answer a single technical question, are you sure you can call these people high-calibre?????

Yeah I agree with the OP. FAANG MBB BB will definitely attract more high calibre students but it doesn't mean Singtel won't attract high calibre students.

Unregistered 11-03-2022 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 207654)
I'm alr in. High calibre. But not "DAMN high calibre". Not president scholar or high finance investment banker.

Oh what a troll

Unregistered 11-03-2022 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 207607)
Damn high calibre then why go singtel? u sure or not.

Companies like FAANG MBB BB will definitely attract more 'damn high calibre' students but it doesn't mean Singtel won't have damn high calibre students either.

Unregistered 11-03-2022 11:11 PM

Hi, regarding the job rotations, I have a question.

If for the first 2 years, MAs are rotating in 2 different functions, will that be more of a breadth rather than depth?

Usually for a non-MAP job, you build up your skills and experience vertically and delve deeper along the way. For MAP, if your experience is in different areas for 2 years and if you get deployed to a different role in the third year, won't you be unable to specialise in one area?

Like, you're a 'well-rounded' person, but without in-depth knowledge and skills in any function after the programme?

Unregistered 12-03-2022 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 207672)
Hi, regarding the job rotations, I have a question.

If for the first 2 years, MAs are rotating in 2 different functions, will that be more of a breadth rather than depth?

Usually for a non-MAP job, you build up your skills and experience vertically and delve deeper along the way. For MAP, if your experience is in different areas for 2 years and if you get deployed to a different role in the third year, won't you be unable to specialise in one area?

Like, you're a 'well-rounded' person, but without in-depth knowledge and skills in any function after the programme?

After 2 different rotations, MAPs will choose one of them. The HR did mention that it is possible to work under a department that u have never rotated b4 after MAP is over but it is quite difficult to do so.


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