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Unregistered 10-07-2022 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224928)
ya of course, every company is like this

micron is expanding

my friend who works there told me teams get bigger and bigger every year, they are not firing people just to hire new people

people quit on their on, no need to fire and give severance

Unregistered 10-07-2022 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224934)
people quit on their on, no need to fire and give severance

the noobs who can't take a bit of work quit on their own

Unregistered 10-07-2022 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224934)
people quit on their on, no need to fire and give severance

ahahaha

the reality in SG is that no one is dumb enough to stay and get fired

the next time u join any company asking for reference ( basically most companies in SG ), you are fked, they will know you got fired for performance issues and u can kiss ur new job byebye

Raymond 11-07-2022 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224871)
huh? Legit ah? I am currently in shift work... gg

You might want to find a way out of it.

Generally I wouldn't recommend shift jobs, like the previous poster mentioned, shift jobs can really ruin your health and body clock. Do a quick search on shift-jobs in similar fields on YouTube, most of them have hectic schedule and look drained as hell on camera... I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, looks like death tbh.

If I was in your shoes and I really needed some YOE, I would maybe deal with it for a year max before I hop to another tech company.

Unregistered 11-07-2022 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 225023)
You might want to find a way out of it.

Generally I wouldn't recommend shift jobs, like the previous poster mentioned, shift jobs can really ruin your health and body clock. Do a quick search on shift-jobs in similar fields on , most of them have hectic schedule and look drained as hell on camera... I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, looks like death tbh.

If I was in your shoes and I really needed some YOE, I would maybe deal with it for a year max before I hop to another tech company.

But if hard to hop to tech company cause I’m a manufacturing engineer…

Unregistered 11-07-2022 09:57 PM

Micron is not a tech company lmao.

You guys don't even do coding or software development in there. Its always wearing that "hazmat suit" and maintaining equipment and processes for semiconductor production across the different fabs in there.

The ones who actually do coding or software development in Micron are "cost centers". Micron is and will always be a semiconductor manufacturing factory from the start, not a tech company looking to grow tech talents from within.

Join a real tech company for once instead of sulking your life in there if you call Micron "a tech company" lol.

Unregistered 11-07-2022 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 225110)
Micron is not a tech company lmao.

You guys don't even do coding or software development in there. Its always wearing that "hazmat suit" and maintaining equipment and processes for semiconductor production across the different fabs in there.

The ones who actually do coding or software development in Micron are "cost centers". Micron is and will always be a semiconductor manufacturing factory from the start, not a tech company looking to grow tech talents from within.

Join a real tech company for once instead of sulking your life in there if you call Micron "a tech company" lol.

which company you from

Unregistered 13-07-2022 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 225128)
which company you from

A better company than Micron. Heck, even ST is way better

Unregistered 13-07-2022 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 225216)
A better company than Micron. Heck, even ST is way better

Guess i dodged the bullet there. I wanted to enter micron after graduation.

Unregistered 13-07-2022 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 225216)
A better company than Micron. Heck, even ST is way better

Do they offer better than micron?

Unregistered 13-07-2022 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 225238)
Do they offer better than micron?

Ya ST offer higher and got bigger bonuses also

Unregistered 13-07-2022 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 225251)
Ya ST offer higher and got bigger bonuses also

more kopi and don't need to deal with indian FT boss, those who go to micron are really stupid

Unregistered 14-07-2022 11:31 AM

Anyone know how much a micron technologist is earning? As I looking to swap job

Donut 15-07-2022 10:17 AM

Anyone here an industrial engineer? How's it like?

Unregistered 15-07-2022 01:14 PM

Does anyone know how many sub department are there in micron manufacturing? like CVD WETETCH DRYETCH DIFFUSION

Unregistered 15-07-2022 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Donut (Post 225425)
Anyone here an industrial engineer? How's it like?

I got work experience as Industrial Engineer at GF. I guess is quite similar with micron. So basically this job is more one time management and communication skill set. You need liaise with Vendor and Internal department to Move In Move Out equipment. You need plan the path for equipment to MIMO, location.

Unregistered 15-07-2022 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 225238)
Do they offer better than micron?

No. Even they give you 20% increment you still lose out the benefit.

Unregistered 15-07-2022 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 225472)
No. Even they give you 20% increment you still lose out the benefit.

so I guess, micron has the best remuneration for fresh grads?

Unregistered 15-07-2022 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 225471)
I got work experience as Industrial Engineer at GF. I guess is quite similar with micron. So basically this job is more one time management and communication skill set. You need liaise with Vendor and Internal department to Move In Move Out equipment. You need plan the path for equipment to MIMO, location.

Eh thanks for the insight - do you find it stressful? Thanks!!

Unregistered 15-07-2022 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 225486)
so I guess, micron has the best remuneration for fresh grads?

not even close......... for semicon/manufacturing perhaps

Unregistered 15-07-2022 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 225493)
not even close......... for semicon/manufacturing perhaps

ohh... I meant for mechanical/manufacturing fresh grads

Unregistered 16-07-2022 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 225491)
Eh thanks for the insight - do you find it stressful? Thanks!!

If this is your first job, you definitely find it stressful as you need to deal with people who involved. But I can say is a good experience as u will be improve your soft skill. For sure first 6 month you feel like **** because you will think why simple thing you also do but don’t think that way.

Unregistered 16-07-2022 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 225493)
not even close......... for semicon/manufacturing perhaps

I agree with him I hear work as manufacturing engineer starting salary is 5k but the stress level is high and turn over rate is high due to many fresh grad cannot take it (e.g long working hours)

Unregistered 24-07-2022 04:04 PM

Anyone here ready to quit micron?

Unregistered 24-07-2022 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 226260)
Anyone here ready to quit micron?

Want quit, go silently quit. Because if you are going to forums , asking others or hesitating to quit, means you not ready to quit.

Unregistered 24-07-2022 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 226260)
Anyone here ready to quit micron?

da fuq this kind of thing also need post on forum,

troll or not, legit lame sia

Unregistered 24-07-2022 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 226269)
da fuq this kind of thing also need post on forum,

troll or not, legit lame sia

as lame as your mother but seems like u dont have one im sorry

Unregistered 25-07-2022 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 225452)
Does anyone know how many sub department are there in micron manufacturing? like CVD WETETCH DRYETCH DIFFUSION

MFG is the biggest dept in Micron. There are basically 3 branches of MFG:
1. Equipment
2. Production
3. Material Handling (Newly branched out to work on efficient parts delivery from store to fab. It is a very small unit)

I will elaborate more on #1 and #2.
For Equipment, there are 2 branches: Area team which deals with the equipment capacity required for wafer loading, as well as equipment that deals with maintenance, troubleshoot, and other improvement projects. Each module will have its own senior manager heading their own area and equipment teams.

For Production, it’s main role is to call out production constraints and highlighting them for help needed. This group is all compressed shift works. It is headed by 1 senior manager, 4 shift managers and their respective production shift module engineers and technologists.

The so called “sub-department” that you called out is known as the “module”, or “area” here, namely:
1. CMP
2. CVD/PVD
3. Diffusion
4. Dry etch
5. Photo
6. Wet process

Unregistered 25-07-2022 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224925)
they must be getting rid of older workers, how else are they able to keep mass hiring fresh grads

The mass hiring that you see is due to 2 main reasons: natural attrition and expansion.

For expansion, some bros there already mentioned earlier that Micron is constantly expanding its front-end manufacturing capabilities for NAND in Singapore. The current fab in expansion is F10A. Of course, some bro mentioned about the rumoured closing down of MSB in Bendemeer. I do not work in MSB, so I cannot comment on the situation there. However, MSB is the only backend testing and assembly site for Micron Singapore. The 2 other nearest backend sites are in Muar and Penang. Do note that backend facilities require much lower technical talents in its operation. As such, operating cost becomes a much heavier consideration, which is why many semiconductor companies including Intel, Broadcom, Infineon etc set up their backend facilities in Malaysia. Source: (s://.mida.gov.my/mida-news/where-are-malaysian-players-in-the-semiconductor-value-chain/) However, frontend sites are much more critical and requires lots of talents for technical breakthroughs, which is why Singapore is an important “center of excellence” for Micron’s global NAND business.

For natural attrition, we all know it happens everywhere in all companies. As of today, Micron Singapore employs about 9000 people. Taking the average turn-over statistics for Q1’22 Manufacturing Electronic sector of 1.5% per month Source: (://stats.mom.gov.sg/Pages/Labour-Market-Report-1Q-2022.aspx Page A18), It will mean 135 people leaving per month.

Unregistered 25-07-2022 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 226322)
The mass hiring that you see is due to 2 main reasons: natural attrition and expansion.

For expansion, some bros there already mentioned earlier that Micron is constantly expanding its front-end manufacturing capabilities for NAND in Singapore. The current fab in expansion is F10A. Of course, some bro mentioned about the rumoured closing down of MSB in Bendemeer. I do not work in MSB, so I cannot comment on the situation there. However, MSB is the only backend testing and assembly site for Micron Singapore. The 2 other nearest backend sites are in Muar and Penang. Do note that backend facilities require much lower technical talents in its operation. As such, operating cost becomes a much heavier consideration, which is why many semiconductor companies including Intel, Broadcom, Infineon etc set up their backend facilities in Malaysia. Source: (s://.mida.gov.my/mida-news/where-are-malaysian-players-in-the-semiconductor-value-chain/) However, frontend sites are much more critical and requires lots of talents for technical breakthroughs, which is why Singapore is an important “center of excellence” for Micron’s global NAND business.

For natural attrition, we all know it happens everywhere in all companies. As of today, Micron Singapore employs about 9000 people. Taking the average turn-over statistics for Q1’22 Manufacturing Electronic sector of 1.5% per month Source: (://stats.mom.gov.sg/Pages/Labour-Market-Report-1Q-2022.aspx Page A18), It will mean 135 people leaving per month.

thanks for your detailed explanation....
I hope MSB will not close down and move their entire production to Malaysia or else I will lose my job.
In addition, I heard that both micron in SG have different pay scale in term of shift allowance, feelsbad...

Unregistered 26-07-2022 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 226320)
MFG is the biggest dept in Micron. There are basically 3 branches of MFG:
1. Equipment
2. Production
3. Material Handling (Newly branched out to work on efficient parts delivery from store to fab. It is a very small unit)

I will elaborate more on #1 and #2.
For Equipment, there are 2 branches: Area team which deals with the equipment capacity required for wafer loading, as well as equipment that deals with maintenance, troubleshoot, and other improvement projects. Each module will have its own senior manager heading their own area and equipment teams.

For Production, it’s main role is to call out production constraints and highlighting them for help needed. This group is all compressed shift works. It is headed by 1 senior manager, 4 shift managers and their respective production shift module engineers and technologists.

The so called “sub-department” that you called out is known as the “module”, or “area” here, namely:
1. CMP
2. CVD/PVD
3. Diffusion
4. Dry etch
5. Photo
6. Wet process

thanks sir...
lets say I am assigned equipment engineer, how will my working hours be like? I am assigned CVD equipment engineer and starting in september.

Unregistered 26-07-2022 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 226320)
MFG is the biggest dept in Micron. There are basically 3 branches of MFG:
1. Equipment
2. Production
3. Material Handling (Newly branched out to work on efficient parts delivery from store to fab. It is a very small unit)

I will elaborate more on #1 and #2.
For Equipment, there are 2 branches: Area team which deals with the equipment capacity required for wafer loading, as well as equipment that deals with maintenance, troubleshoot, and other improvement projects. Each module will have its own senior manager heading their own area and equipment teams.

For Production, it’s main role is to call out production constraints and highlighting them for help needed. This group is all compressed shift works. It is headed by 1 senior manager, 4 shift managers and their respective production shift module engineers and technologists.

The so called “sub-department” that you called out is known as the “module”, or “area” here, namely:
1. CMP
2. CVD/PVD
3. Diffusion
4. Dry etch
5. Photo
6. Wet process

is there anyway I can contact you? I got some enquires to ask haha, just got offer

Unregistered 26-07-2022 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 226322)
The mass hiring that you see is due to 2 main reasons: natural attrition and expansion.

For expansion, some bros there already mentioned earlier that Micron is constantly expanding its front-end manufacturing capabilities for NAND in Singapore. The current fab in expansion is F10A. Of course, some bro mentioned about the rumoured closing down of MSB in Bendemeer. I do not work in MSB, so I cannot comment on the situation there. However, MSB is the only backend testing and assembly site for Micron Singapore. The 2 other nearest backend sites are in Muar and Penang. Do note that backend facilities require much lower technical talents in its operation. As such, operating cost becomes a much heavier consideration, which is why many semiconductor companies including Intel, Broadcom, Infineon etc set up their backend facilities in Malaysia. Source: (s://.mida.gov.my/mida-news/where-are-malaysian-players-in-the-semiconductor-value-chain/) However, frontend sites are much more critical and requires lots of talents for technical breakthroughs, which is why Singapore is an important “center of excellence” for Micron’s global NAND business.

For natural attrition, we all know it happens everywhere in all companies. As of today, Micron Singapore employs about 9000 people. Taking the average turn-over statistics for Q1’22 Manufacturing Electronic sector of 1.5% per month Source: (://stats.mom.gov.sg/Pages/Labour-Market-Report-1Q-2022.aspx Page A18), It will mean 135 people leaving per month.

Hi! Sorry but why would you say that backend requires lower technical skills?

Unregistered 27-07-2022 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 226421)
Hi! Sorry but why would you say that backend requires lower technical skills?

I hope you or anyone else are not upset by this statement. Front end wafer fabrication is very complex. This is especially so for NAND. There are hundreds of processing steps required for each wafer to go through and the fabrication is akin to building a skyscraper in nano scale. It requires lots of talents to solve technical problems to not only make the device function properly, but also to achieve high yield and high reliability. This requires a lot of technical breakthroughs. However, backend facility is used for functional testing, wiring and assembly. It requires much lower technical expertise since there is no fabrication involved.

Unregistered 27-07-2022 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 226395)
thanks sir...
lets say I am assigned equipment engineer, how will my working hours be like? I am assigned CVD equipment engineer and starting in september.

I am assuming you are taking the role of equipment owner. Official working hour is 8-5.30pm. however, as the title suggest, you will "own" certain equipment assigned to you, which means you are the subject matter expert for it. While there will be shift technicians to support the equipment, you will be the person to give instructions and directions solve problems that may arise. Do note that the fab is running 24/7. As a result, there will be chance that the equipment experience a hard down that requires your support even during your off day or after hours. Unfortunately, this is the nature of the job for operations, especially for owners. Be prepared to be very busy and disruptive to your life. However, I also want to note that depending on individuals, while some people do not like this arrangement, there are also many who are fine with it. The good thing about being an equipment owner is that it can be very interesting and fulfilling when you are able to overcome the technical issue. I do not want to sugar coat the role, but I just want to present to you a very objective view of it, basically the pros and cons. It sounds very scary, but no harm trying and get the hang of it first before you decide if you actually enjoy or hate it.

Unregistered 27-07-2022 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 226420)
is there anyway I can contact you? I got some enquires to ask haha, just got offer

Preferably not since this is an anonymous forum. You can post your enquires here and I'll see if I can help you with it.

Unregistered 27-07-2022 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 226438)
I am assuming you are taking the role of equipment owner. Official working hour is 8-5.30pm. however, as the title suggest, you will "own" certain equipment assigned to you, which means you are the subject matter expert for it. While there will be shift technicians to support the equipment, you will be the person to give instructions and directions solve problems that may arise. Do note that the fab is running 24/7. As a result, there will be chance that the equipment experience a hard down that requires your support even during your off day or after hours. Unfortunately, this is the nature of the job for operations, especially for owners. Be prepared to be very busy and disruptive to your life. However, I also want to note that depending on individuals, while some people do not like this arrangement, there are also many who are fine with it. The good thing about being an equipment owner is that it can be very interesting and fulfilling when you are able to overcome the technical issue. I do not want to sugar coat the role, but I just want to present to you a very objective view of it, basically the pros and cons. It sounds very scary, but no harm trying and get the hang of it first before you decide if you actually enjoy or hate it.

They told me it will be shift work as a equipment engineer. However, they didnt say what kind of shift will I be doing. So I am unsure which shift am I going be. But I heard that alot of people will be in the same situation where they do not know which shift will they be in until end of 3 weeks of training. So I am hoping to know what kind of shift is there?

Unregistered 27-07-2022 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 226439)
Preferably not since this is an anonymous forum. You can post your enquires here and I'll see if I can help you with it.

May I know what are you working as at Micron?

Unregistered 27-07-2022 08:15 PM

What is the MSB rumour about ? Why shut down after hiring a lot ? Fake news ?

Unregistered 27-07-2022 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 226483)
What is the MSB rumour about ? Why shut down after hiring a lot ? Fake news ?

From my understanding, it MIGHT move to penang soon in the near future


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