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lmaohaha 30-05-2012 11:41 PM

hi guys, i would like to know which domain of hr is most suited for someone like me who is meticulous, analytical, have good critical tinking skills and organised? im someone who is fine wif talking wif ppl, but not terribly good at it. i would say i have good communication/ppl skills but not excellent. nid some advice. thx.

wern 31-05-2012 05:42 AM

unless you're talking about management consultancies like accenture or even the banks, hr in singapore is largely chapalang rojak mix of admin, remuneration, training and talent retention aspects (esp among hr depts in the ministries and stat boards).

Unregistered 31-05-2012 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by wern (Post 25242)
unless you're talking about management consultancies like accenture or even the banks, hr in singapore is largely chapalang rojak mix of admin, remuneration, training and talent retention aspects (esp among hr depts in the ministries and stat boards).

That's because admin departments in a lot of companies/stat boards have fradulently lableled themselves as HR.

Real HR dpts like the various COEs in large MNCs are highly specialized and paid very well, definitely not rojak admin. Most rojak HR ppl aspire to move up to do real HR strategy/policy work, but most kena stuck because skillset too different.

lmaohaha 31-05-2012 10:35 AM

thx for the 2 replies from above. i applied for hr work in stat boards and ministries and from wad i see in the job description, it seems like rojak jack of trades. but if someone of my profile were to be in one or certain specialisations, which one(s) will fit me best?

poor and stupid 31-05-2012 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lmaohaha (Post 25238)
hi guys, i would like to know which domain of hr is most suited for someone like me who is meticulous, analytical, have good critical tinking skills and organised? im someone who is fine wif talking wif ppl, but not terribly good at it. i would say i have good communication/ppl skills but not excellent. nid some advice. thx.

People who are very meticulous, analytical, have good critical tinking skills and organised are engineers, and they earn ****, as everyone knows that. Just spew BS out of mouth can earn better than doing any actual work

Unregistered 31-05-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by poor and stupid (Post 25252)
People who are very meticulous, analytical, have good critical tinking skills and organised are engineers, and they earn ****, as everyone knows that. Just spew BS out of mouth can earn better than doing any actual work

Then learn to spew more bs.

Unregistered 31-05-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lmaohaha (Post 25249)
thx for the 2 replies from above. i applied for hr work in stat boards and ministries and from wad i see in the job description, it seems like rojak jack of trades. but if someone of my profile were to be in one or certain specialisations, which one(s) will fit me best?

It will likely be Rewards and/or Performance Management specialization. Bad thing is most MNC will not accept fresh grads straight to specialist, you either need to excel first as rojak & climb the ladder or join a reputable HR management consulting firm for a few years.

If you want to get serious pay & promotion prospect in HR, I suggest you dun join CS/Stat board right at the start, HR over there is condem to admin ops stuff and you learn nothing even if you spend many years there.

Unregistered 31-05-2012 09:16 PM

In terms of pay & career progression, what is the salary like after 5 yrs for a hr admin compare to specialise job like org dev, c&b, business partner, talent etc.

Unregistered 05-06-2012 12:59 PM

Yes, quite true. I am in business support cum hr suppport though i used to be as administrator for 10 year plus. I am making switch to hr ops specialist role. Can anyone advise me how much should i neg for? Current is 4900 (that is based on office admin experiences) tks

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 22224)
Most SMEs do not have a HR department. They usually rename the Admin department as HR in order to give a better image.

This cause a lot of problems as HR professionals are lumped together with administrators causing layman to think their pay is very low.


Unregistered 05-06-2012 01:27 PM

How about HR ops specialist in a mnc ? how much should be the salary? I am making career switch from Admin cum HR support to HR role. Current is 4900.

QUOTE=Unregistered;24491]Junior business partner position with $4k is a very good start..btw, wat type of business is the company running?..Is it a foreign MNC?[/QUOTE]


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