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Unregistered 07-04-2022 07:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 131400)
Can people help to update ur merit increments so we can fill in the gaps? :) looks like a slight decrease in merit increments compared to the past based on list below

Geo2
C-:
C:
C+:$60 (prorated)
B:
A:

Geo3
C-:
C: 175
C+: $175- $176
B: $210-$211
A:

Geo4
C-:
C: $192
C+: $192
B: $245-$260
A: $325

Geo5
C-:
C:
C+: $205.20-$216
B: $236
A:

Seo1
C-:
C: $305
C+:
B:
A: 498

Seo2
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:
above are some MIs from 2021. shall we crowdsource some information again this year? :)

Geo2
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Geo3
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A: $170

Geo4
C-:
C:
C+:
B: $178
A:

Geo5
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Seo1
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Seo2
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Unregistered 07-04-2022 07:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 212840)
above are some MIs from 2021. shall we crowdsource some information again this year? :)

Geo2
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Geo3
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A: $170

Geo4
C-:
C:
C+:
B: $178
A:

Geo5
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Seo1
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Seo2
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:
haha, why you waste time? the figures will be trolled very soon

Unregistered 07-04-2022 07:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 212831)
Took lots of mc due to health issues.
You could totally appeal for this. You cannot get D just because you take MC. All of us have 14 days MC. It doesn’t mean that you take more = you are a less competent teacher.

Unregistered 07-04-2022 07:33 PM
above are some MIs from 2021. shall we crowdsource some information again this year?

Geo2
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Geo3
C-:
C:
C+:
B: $141
A: $170

Geo4
C-:
C:
C+:
B: $178
A:

Geo5
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Seo1
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Seo2
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Unregistered 07-04-2022 07:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 212844)
You could totally appeal for this. You cannot get D just because you take MC. All of us have 14 days MC. It doesn’t mean that you take more = you are a less competent teacher.
Frequently absent affects T&L.
Also might affect your level of contribution to the sch/dept.

Unregistered 07-04-2022 07:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 212844)
You could totally appeal for this. You cannot get D just because you take MC. All of us have 14 days MC. It doesn’t mean that you take more = you are a less competent teacher.
lol, of course its not because of mc. it means the person illness might have affected performance and resulted in less favourable outcome.

Unregistered 07-04-2022 08:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 212851)
lol, of course its not because of mc. it means the person illness might have affected performance and resulted in less favourable outcome.
have noticed many KPs taking many days of leave without anything happening to them. There are also those who take many days of leave n still get promoted as long as you are in the good books of those who matter.

Unregistered 07-04-2022 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 212837)
i guess the low pay is augmented by the connect plan
just hanging in there for the upcoming connect plan next year before leaving. Low pay plus little recognition is a killer for one's passion

Unregistered 07-04-2022 08:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 212856)
have noticed many KPs taking many days of leave without anything happening to them. There are also those who take many days of leave n still get promoted as long as you are in the good books of those who matter.
Come on. KP or not, there has to be reason for absence. Don't talk rubbish

Unregistered 07-04-2022 08:25 PM
Geo2
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Geo3
C-:
C:
C+:
B: $141
A: $170

Geo4
C-:
C:
C+:
B: $178
A:

Geo5
C-:
C:
C+: 134
B:
A:

Seo1
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Seo2
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Unregistered 07-04-2022 08:56 PM
Payslip out?



Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 212846)
above are some MIs from 2021. shall we crowdsource some information again this year?

Geo2
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Geo3
C-:
C:
C+:
B: $141
A: $170

Geo4
C-:
C:
C+:
B: $178
A:

Geo5
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Seo1
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Seo2
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Unregistered 07-04-2022 09:07 PM
Geo2
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Geo3
C-:
C:
C+:
B: $141
A: $170

Geo4
C-:
C:
C+:
B: $178
A: $225

Geo5
C-:
C:
C+: 134
B:
A:

Seo1
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Seo2
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Unregistered 07-04-2022 09:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 212670)
I just got geo5. PB grade B. Increment around 7%. High or low

just got geo 5 as well, PB grade A, increment about 8.3%

Unregistered 07-04-2022 10:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 212847)
Frequently absent affects T&L.
Also might affect your level of contribution to the sch/dept.
MC cannot justify D. Unless you did something wrong. Just like those who went maternity, you can’t get D.

Unregistered 07-04-2022 10:33 PM
above are some MIs from 2021. shall we crowdsource some information again this year?

Geo2
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Geo3
C-:
C:
C+:
B: $101
A: $120

Geo4
C-:
C:
C+:
B: $128
A:

Geo5
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Seo1
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Seo2
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Unregistered 07-04-2022 10:43 PM
How do u check this? Can't seem to see on workpal

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 212873)
just got geo 5 as well, PB grade A, increment about 8.3%

WorkSoHard 07-04-2022 10:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 212914)
above are some MIs from 2021. shall we crowdsource some information again this year?

Geo2
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Geo3
C-:
C:
C+:
B: $101
A: $120

Geo4
C-:
C:
C+:
B: $128
A:

Geo5
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Seo1
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:

Seo2
C-:
C:
C+:
B:
A:
MI is based on Performance grade?

Unregistered 07-04-2022 11:21 PM
Question
 
2012 Enter teaching
2015 GEO4 and got a C- that year for doing some shitty stuff
2022 GEO5


Is this fast or slow? Trying to gauge my CEP. Thanks

Unregistered 08-04-2022 05:56 AM
Male, non scholar
2014: Enter teaching as GEO2
2015: GEO3
2022: GEO4

Unregistered 08-04-2022 08:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 212936)
2012 Enter teaching
2015 GEO4 and got a C- that year for doing some shitty stuff
2022 GEO5


Is this fast or slow? Trying to gauge my CEP. Thanks
Have you ever engaged in discussions with your RO about moving up the career tracks, regardless if it was self-initiated or RO-initiated? If you haven't, chances are your CEP is at geo5.

Unregistered 08-04-2022 08:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 212969)
Male, non scholar
2014: Enter teaching as GEO2
2015: GEO3
2022: GEO4
Considering the present-day climate of slowed down promotions, your progression is ok for a teacher with CEP of geo5. The previous generation of teachers will consider it very slow though.

Unregistered 08-04-2022 11:39 AM
I wonder if the lower MI amount is related to the more generous grades being given these past Covid years. I mean, it looks like more people are getting B and A’s even, when A used to be such a rate thing in the past. Also seeing a good number of promotions in my school (10-15%) each year, so maybe these things are balanced out with lower MI.

Unregistered 08-04-2022 02:39 PM
Heya all. This ain't salary-related. But. Just would like to know from you guys. Are your Ps stating that he/she will not be approving any overseas leave for June? Kinda buey song when mine said that. Not sure whether it's standard across the land.

Unregistered 08-04-2022 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 212982)
Have you ever engaged in discussions with your RO about moving up the career tracks, regardless if it was self-initiated or RO-initiated? If you haven't, chances are your CEP is at geo5.


Hi, thanks for your reply. May I take a peek into your mind on how you arrived at this conclusion of CEP at GEO5? Thanks.

Unregistered 08-04-2022 03:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 213022)
Hi, thanks for your reply. May I take a peek into your mind on how you arrived at this conclusion of CEP at GEO5? Thanks.
7 years from 3-4 is a long time

Unregistered 08-04-2022 03:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 212936)
2012 Enter teaching
2015 GEO4 and got a C- that year for doing some shitty stuff
2022 GEO5


Is this fast or slow? Trying to gauge my CEP. Thanks
It’s normal. You will stay at GEO5 unless you are given a KP position, apply to another sch or HQ, so that you can be considered for SEO1. Most teachers remain at GEO5 drawing a comfortable pay but without leadership responsibilities

Unregistered 08-04-2022 04:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 213022)
Hi, thanks for your reply. May I take a peek into your mind on how you arrived at this conclusion of CEP at GEO5? Thanks.
Very simple.. if your CEP is higher than geo5, your school leaders and RO should actively be preparing you to take on higher appointment in the near future. If there is total radio silence about training you to take on SH/LH/AYH/ST roles, or preparing you for a HQ officer position, then you can safely assume that your CEP is not even at SEO1-equivalent. Especially at your age.

Unregistered 08-04-2022 04:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 213017)
Heya all. This ain't salary-related. But. Just would like to know from you guys. Are your Ps stating that he/she will not be approving any overseas leave for June? Kinda buey song when mine said that. Not sure whether it's standard across the land.
No leh my P say as long you are back at least 7days before staff meeting to account for any SHN/quarantine then just seek his approval before booking tickets. I am not planning to travel in Jun but already booked year end trip from 30Nov, hoping things dont change then

Unregistered 08-04-2022 04:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 213017)
Heya all. This ain't salary-related. But. Just would like to know from you guys. Are your Ps stating that he/she will not be approving any overseas leave for June? Kinda buey song when mine said that. Not sure whether it's standard across the land.
Because HQ has not sent any official travel advisory for staff yet.

If P jumps the gun and approves, but later on the travel advisory ends up more stringent that the school-based guidelines decided by the SLs, then the P will have to make the awful move of revoking leave approvals and/or answer to higher management for jumping the gun.

Unregistered 08-04-2022 04:41 PM
To be honest, MOE HQ should expect a backlash if it dares to unveil unreasonable policies on overseas leave during June holidays. Come on, everyone is going overseas already!

Unregistered 08-04-2022 05:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 213036)
Because HQ has not sent any official travel advisory for staff yet.

If P jumps the gun and approves, but later on the travel advisory ends up more stringent that the school-based guidelines decided by the SLs, then the P will have to make the awful move of revoking leave approvals and/or answer to higher management for jumping the gun.
National posture has shifted already, but a lot of it lies in hands of the P. I know of people who already travelled in Dec hols, while other P’s are more conservative. Some P’s encourage travel and even do it themselves, so… it depends from school to school. MOE will not be encouraging or discouraging at this point unless the national situation changes

Unregistered 08-04-2022 05:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 213050)
National posture has shifted already, but a lot of it lies in hands of the P. I know of people who already travelled in Dec hols, while other P’s are more conservative. Some P’s encourage travel and even do it themselves, so… it depends from school to school. MOE will not be encouraging or discouraging at this point unless the national situation changes
ambiguity like this is demoralising factors and shouldnt exist in the first place

Unregistered 08-04-2022 06:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 213026)
7 years from 3-4 is a long time
Oh it was only 2 3 years.. 7 years was from geo4 to geo5..longer time probably because of my C-…if only..

Unregistered 08-04-2022 08:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 213050)
National posture has shifted already, but a lot of it lies in hands of the P. I know of people who already travelled in Dec hols, while other P’s are more conservative. Some P’s encourage travel and even do it themselves, so… it depends from school to school. MOE will not be encouraging or discouraging at this point unless the national situation changes
Thanks for the replies, everyone! Needless to say, we were all disappointed and demoralised to the max with such news. Just seems unfair when teachers in other schools are able to freely travel in June. Oh well. Hope my P will have a change of heart/mind soon.

Unregistered 09-04-2022 08:06 AM
Any who came in with a diploma and got emplaced? What has your progression been like. This is my 11th year and still sitting at geo3. Feeling disheartened. Many who came years after me were promoted to Geo 4 this year.

Unregistered 09-04-2022 10:57 AM
Those in ranking panel, what was the highest CEP you've ever seen a officer hold? First time in ranking panel and I saw P6 (HOD) for a young officer (GEO2) and a colleague commented to me that its considered very high... really?

Unregistered 09-04-2022 11:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 213147)
Those in ranking panel, what was the highest CEP you've ever seen a officer hold? First time in ranking panel and I saw P6 (HOD) for a young officer (GEO2) and a colleague commented to me that its considered very high... really?
P6 is the highest I have seen. Any higher, they will not put up for discussion during ranking. That is, he/she is already a KP or ST/LT

Unregistered 09-04-2022 11:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 213147)
Those in ranking panel, what was the highest CEP you've ever seen a officer hold? First time in ranking panel and I saw P6 (HOD) for a young officer (GEO2) and a colleague commented to me that its considered very high... really?
Scholar? Else, I don't understand what could well a GEO 2 have perform to be given such a high CEP

Unregistered 09-04-2022 12:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 213147)
Those in ranking panel, what was the highest CEP you've ever seen a officer hold? First time in ranking panel and I saw P6 (HOD) for a young officer (GEO2) and a colleague commented to me that its considered very high... really?
Have seen higher than that, for an overseas scholar (EMS) that just came in. Usually any reviews to this are discussed at cluster level. The school ranking panel will rarely touch these without input from higher levels.

Unregistered 09-04-2022 01:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 213128)
Any who came in with a diploma and got emplaced? What has your progression been like. This is my 11th year and still sitting at geo3. Feeling disheartened. Many who came years after me were promoted to Geo 4 this year.
What's the progress like? How long at each subgrade


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