Yes GEO5 with no ‘leadership’ responsibilities is good..too much planning for activities that poses little benefits for the intended receiver.. & to be fair, seo1 doesn’t command much more pay than a GEO5 HOT:)

Thanks for explaining. Current doing a SH internal role in school in a quite high profile area. But so tired after just my 2nd year in this. Must be my age..hahahaa

I see. Well, you didn't mention the SH role earlier. Assuming you were recently given the internal appointment, and you're doing fine (or better) in your role, the panel may have reviewed your CEP recently.

yes even though SEO1 has a higher absolute ceiling, your actual margin over your GEO5 colleagues will be small enough for many years, that you frequently question whether the absurd amount of extra work is worth that extra few hundred.

Most succumb to the allure of being a HOT before their salary actually climbs to a point that is substantially higher :)

Prdon, what is HOT

Happy ordinary teacher..

I have concluded that the extra work, hours is not worth the effort. The few extra hundred that one only gets after some many years in the job makes it worse. I personally think it is better that one secures your sanity by being a HOT than to be a KP and burn out very quickly. Not so much of an attractive proposition but more of a realistic peek into the next ten years in service in this current climate.

Especially so when you are not appreciated.
Some SLs have high expectations on KPs while lenient to HOTs.
They never considered that their young KPs could be fetching far lower pay than HOTs.

Diploma Holder’s progression
 

Fellow Diploma Educator (no degree yet) here with doubts.

Appointed as GEO 1: June 2016
Confirmed as GEO 1: June 2017
Promoted to GEO 2: April 2020
Promoted to GEO 3: April 2022

I was wondering if the recent promotions is a normal protocol or is it the school is finally recognising me? Or is it actually too slow?

I feel that it’s not worth becoming a KP unless u got the chance to step up to be a VP. Of course, SLs will never put it this way as they need someone to lead the foot soldiers. How much do the SLs do? Very little.

How much do HODs do? Much more.

KPs
 

You can only compare apple to apple... not orange to apple.... School leaders have heavy administrative works... mostly vetting through content and leading the school strategic thrusts... more importantly, account for school decisions day in day out...

While HODs/SHs seem to have more ground works... leading and design department strategic plans... ground teachers work the most... designing and executing projects while juggling T&L....

Some teachers also feel the off-loading of 33% workload is not justifiable as they don't feel the extra admin works HODs/SHs carry allows them to shed off one teaching class...

Then HODs don't even have to take a CCA, some SHs may feel that both are doing similar admin works, why HODs can go to the extent to shed off one CCA...

Think of the broad picture... all in all... it's all about accountability.... as SLs, you need to be liable for the whole school and appreciate the depth of works each department run... be it IP or non-IP... from science laboratory practices to mtl in-lieu and to RAMs procedures in OBS.... it could be much easier if SLs just blindly approve any programmes/processes but all it takes is one mis-handling and everything will fall apart..

Statements like these are toxic and unhelpful. Teaching is a calling but it is also a job.

we can only guess...these are just assumptions hmmm

Precisely.
While we don't work solely for $, we do have bills to pay for & family to support.
We do want recognition. Words, monetary, awards, etc.

Anyone could share the increment of a promotee this year?

If you scroll a few pages down csn see already... Don't need to ask repeat questions

Just to share my strategy of having higher pay: teach tuition lol.

I tell my RO to give me a slack CCA like Green Club, and a low-profile committee like library and media resources. I get C every year BUT I earn an extra $1.2K in cash every month from giving 2-3 students private tuition.

Quite good already. With just diploma and you go to other parts of civil service or private sector, you won't be commanding equivalent pay - I guess you probably have close to $4k now? Diploma holders cannot ultimately compare with degree holders in MOE, but should rate themselves with their counterparts elsewhere.

Anyone else received a pro-rated increment this month? not even a hundred

Pro-rated or the amount is after CPF?

For annual increment, the increase in amount after CPF may be less than 100, depending on your performance grade?

My increment is only 2.7percent. Got C for last year's performance.

hrp just indicated pro-rated and felt like they gave me a number out of thin air. I got C+.

you never work the whole year last year?

lol. worked full year, which is why I’m puzzled.

Hit the ceiling already?

heard this year bonus not bad. just nice jb open, geylang might be opening soon. more $ to spend on chickens

Hi anyone joined MOE HQ on MX scheme rather than specialist scheme? Can share how's the salary and progression like for MX scheme in MOE, do they lag behind specialist scheme? TIA.

Basically, for specialist scheme can be 10%-25% higher pay than MX scheme

Were you promoted maybe last Oct?

Why would the increment be pro-rated? I was working and never on any unpaid leave.

I also got D due to Dengue Fever and paternity leave. The school kept finding excuses to substantiate low my low performance (picking bones in an egg). Left the school and got B the next year. Don't stay in a school that don't appreciate you. Find a school to prove your worth. Good luck to the RO and VP from that school, I have been causing them everyday since.

Sorry, I mean "cursing" them...

Also, ignore the extra "low".

Just too annoyed when reminded of old history.

I thought one will not be eligible for open/closed posting if he/she gets C- or worse?

Closed posting can be done case-by-case. If poor cultural fit with the current school and/or current school management can be demonstrated, or some form of conflict that can no longer be settled amicably.

there was a 30% reduction in MI and PI during covid. still the same

yes. so im wondering if pro-rated based on oct rather than the usual month

I've been searching on HRP portal but can't find how to download our CV. Does anyone know how to retrieve it? Thanks

mine's worse. 2.2% increment for C+

My previous experience was that my merit increment following the year of (Oct) promotion would be quite miniscule. VP explained that it was because part of the increment is already applied in the Oct promotion, so MI the following year is smaller.

Can't really verify that, but it's fit my general increment history (and your recent one too, apparently).

Hi, may i know what is the process/requirements to become a subject head? How many years of experience are required?