So low? I graduated from SIM-RMIT with starting salary of 5k and now 3 years into my job as investment banker earning 12k.

Which bank? I know the US banks barring Citi, no way. UBS, maybe but I have never heard of SIM kids joining the bank outright.

Unless you have connections or are very pretty, I would say the chances of this happening is 1%.

Graduated from SIM in 2005, now doing regulatory affairs for a foreign bank drawing 17k.

can teach how u graduated from SIM in 2005, when it was founded in 2005?

Pay money to graduate early lol!

Lol, SIM founded in 2005 and poster graduated in 2005. One year of uni? That's bull. Poster might need to think of something better. Ahahah

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I'm from ITE, and i got offered 30k per mth in financial industry? is the pay too low?

Cannot la, bro. It seems a little too low leh.

Yah loh. Too low. My friend flunked his O level and got only his PSLE cert. He is doing 90k per month in the financial industry. With your ITE cert, you should demand 120k to 150k per month

There was a joke many years ago how ITE = "It's The End"

Many of my ITE friends laughed at that. They say, ITE actually stands for "InTelligent & Elite". Every single one of them make 6 digits per month. During our meet ups they always talk about how ITE can earn 6 digits per month, then they laugh at me for studying until Uni and only earn 6 figures a year.

I did feel quite demoralised, until one day I happened to meet my best friend Hock Seng on his payday. He proudly showed me his payslip, "Hey XXX, see my payslip! 6 digits as usual bro!"

I discovered that with about 20 hours of OT pay in Jan, Hock Seng had earned $1367.35 for the month of Jan, which was a 6 digit salary.

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Guys, let's keep this in the boundaries of realism, shall we. I give the benefit of the doubt to that SIM graduate who in 5 years is earning 10k a month, whom I'm genuinely jealous of. I can see that happening. Anything above that is clearly fiction.

haha that joke is as good as the SIMians

SIM-UOL graduates should stop lying or putting LSE anywhere on their certificates. It really degrades the value of true LSE graduates when people search LinkedIN or HR recruiters review resumes.

Why we should care? And why you should care about what we put our resumes/linkedin? You hiring?

Anyway, the 'true LSE graduates' are not better than us. We are all university grads from University of London group of colleges. When you talk about 'local grads' you also group NUS, SMU and NTU together. When we talk about 'UoL grads', we are also grouping the group of LSE, UCL, SIM etc. together. So we are in the same group.

Example - I have one LSE graduate in the same office and his work is poor, he always gets scolded by his boss. He is the typical through-train JC kind of guy.

Lol, it's SIM UOL and NOT LSE. It is just "direction" provided by LSE, don't you think it's very 不要脸 to claim that you're from LSE??????

Seriously guys, stop it.

LOOLLLLL. Have you taken a look at your SIM-UOL degree certificate recently? It states UOL and not LSE. You are NOT a graduate of LSE. You are a graduate of UOL THROUGH the SIM programme. Any hiring manager will catch you out the moment you come in for interview, from the way you stumble trying to answer competency questions (needed for any half-decent FO role) to the unpolished way you interchange chinese, english and colloquial singlish to your obvious lack of industry knowledge and network to establish even a sliver of credibility of your suitability for the role.

By the way an LSE degree looks like this, ://.documentscenter.com/data/attachment/upload/Image/LSE2.jpg

NOT like this ://s27.photobucket.com/user/Raffles88/media/uol.jpg.html

And yes, yes, I am Bill Gates' son. LOOOOOOOOOL

Whats next? A harvard or yales grad working as receptionist in your company?

Very interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing!

You are the one who is 'unpolished', if there is even this word. Yes, the cert states UOL but my point is that UOL = LSE. You see the LSE website "High academic standards - the same stringent academic standards apply to all University of London degrees, whether students are taught internally at LSE or study individually at a distance."(lse.ac.uk/study/UOLIP/international_degree.aspx)

We are tested to the same academic standards as LSE, and are as good or even better than LSE. And LSE also admits in this website that University of London degrees include those taught at LSE. Means LSE = UOL.

So stop bashing people who put LSE, it is the same as UOL. And stop be jealous that you are from a non-UOL/non-LSE background.

HAHAHA, go look up the word 'unpolished'. It means unsophisticated (ala, a simpleton like you).

It doesn't take a monkey of IQ more than 80 to show that UOL is an UMBRELLA of universities, which INCLUDE LSE but is not otherwise EQUIVALENT to LSE. Your statement that '[SIM-UOL is] as good or even better than LSE' is laughable at best. The fact of the matter is, you are not a graduate of LSE and will never be one in your current life.

How does it feel that a fresh grad doing BB IB as a first-year analyst will earn a monthly pay higher than you will EVER attain in your life? Well, I guess back-office guys like you get to knock off at 6pm.

Get off the forums, SIM-UOL grad.

These SIM students are mad. SIM UOL is NOT LSE, and not comparable to LSE!!

I think the ones who put it down on their resume are jokers. Thankfully, most banks have competent enough HRs to filter this. It's just quite sad because it dilutes the brand of LSE.

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So u mean SUTD student can tell others they are from MIT?

SMU students can also say they are from Wharton, woohoo!

Let's end this thread once and for all. For those that 'graduated' from SIM-UOL (or even NUS, NTU, SMU), please search for your school page from the Big 3 Elite Consultancies.

I have provided the links here for campus search:

McK: ://.mckinsey.com/careers/your-career/McKinsey-on-campus

BCG: ://.bcg.com/careers/join/on-campus/default.aspx

Bain: s://.joinbain.com/apply-to-bain/undergraduate-and-masters/default.asp

If your school is elite enough, it WILL be listed on the Campus Recruiting pages of MBB consulting. If not, just go home and be sad that all your hard work and study slogging out on your 'degree' won't even get you to interview stage with elite firms.

Yes let's stop here ok. Since you all say that employers will immediately know, then let the employers sort out who is from what school. No need to post linkedin links here.

Btw please see topuniversities.com/where-to-study/europe/united-kingdom/top-10-universities-london

Shows that UoL is really one of the best in the world compare to NUS/NTU/SMU/SUTD.

Pls stop throwing uol grads face

UOL definitely for real is not LSE. the only time you are recongised as LSE is when your degree cert is the same as LSE students. for example, under SIT programme thou they partnership with UofG (Uni of Glasgow), the students get the same piece of degree as UofG student back in Glasgow..even for school like NUS they collaborate with MIT, the cert is still from NUS but with a statement to say it is a collobration with MIT? any partnership private school as long you dont get the same piece of degree cert back at the parent insitution, you have no right to say they are the same.

stop trolling la. i believe you arent from UOL also. You are just making people dislike SIM people. I can see that their position do threaten you somehow, if not you wont be like some gu niang stirring ****.

It is just irritating to see people keep posting linkedin profiles of people who put LSE, so what if they put? I am not the one stirring, its more like other people keep stirring to bash UOL grads for no reason and this keeps repeating on and on and on. Even when someone brings the thread back to its original topic, the same person posts linkedin profile again. Why don't you ask them to stop instead?

But ok I'm sorry if what I said offend anybody.

no no no.

im from the REAL LSE - i studied for 3yrs in london, not singapore.

LSE degree certs are issued by LSE, not UOL.

SIMpsons have UOL on the degree certs, NEVER LSE.

LSE does not have distance learning. it might be difficult for nus/smu/ntu grads here, but UOL is the administrative body of a few - king's/LSE etc. my profs are mostly nobel winners, and they definitely do not lecture in singapore. period.

LSE is one of the top schools in the UK, no way will they allow the famed name to be misused on some half baked bunch of losers.

im confused. you mean if you study in sim you get a cert?

whats that for? receipt to show that you paid for a degree?

LOL just accept that you are the same as a UOL grad bro. Actually LSE is still fine, UCL probably gets confused a lot more with UOL.

But the only people confused are losers like SIMbians and other kinds of primates.

It dilutes the brand of LSE. What is a brand? A brand is name, label or tag used to assign recognition and achievement, given that brand's equity, to whoever that wears the brand. Why is a brand important? Because in today's environment, brands are used as an indicator to the employer on whom they *think* they should hire.

The people who went to study at the real LSE earn the right to wear that brand. And part of the reason they went through the process of getting the LSE brand is that they can distinguish themselves when it comes to employment.

These SIM graduates we're mentioning are thieves who stole the brand and wear it on their Linkedin.

well, to begin with, there's no UOL logo on the LSE cert. it's just not mentioned. LSE is an, i would say, independent body from UOL. UOL is merely an administrative body that oversees all the umbrella universities in london.

that said, i've never seen a grad prog (BB) let in some poser SIMpson in, even for a first round interview.

I agree with you. Though I don't see how your reply relates to mine, if that was your intent at all.

I was giving reason as to why there is this argument of SIM graduates, which didn't graduate from LSE in London, putting LSE on their Linkedin. They're having something that isn't theirs.

point im trying to make is, im from the real LSE, in london.

i dont really care what ******** SIMpsons put on their linkedin/cv - its just words aint it?

besides, hr knows the real deal from the fakes. like i said, they dont get into the FO positions or get called even for the interviews. majority of the BO ppl i deal with daily are from SIMUOL or whatever crap. theres a reason why they are there, and i am where i am.

Thank god my son went to SUTD instead of SIM. He didn't do as well as I hoped, but at least he's getting a better education at SUTD. Last thing he needs is a monkey degree from SIM.

Wow, is this the quality of LSE grads? Can't even string a proper sentence together. Seems like they are truly no different from SIM grads.

So what should SIM put down on their CV instead of LSE?