Any honours degree?

2nd upper local university

Got word from the boss that I'm moving up to 11A. Good luck to all others!

Congrats, but I am jealous of you.
Share what you did in last 2 years.

2014 - 3300 (entry pay in private)
2015 - 3800 (increment + pay adjustment in private)
2016 - 4200 (increment in private)
2017 - 5400 (stat board)
2018 - 5900 (promotion + increment in stat board)

bro, what medicines are you on?

You should either RETURN to IMH should you require your meds and not bark up at the wrong tree. Alternatively, should you be afraid of being hospitalized, you could try your luck at any pharmacies.

If I did not catch your sarcasm, please allow yourself to be enlightened that DSTA is one of the Agency which has such pay progression.

Assuming poster is a guy with NS, seems reasonable to hit 5.9k at 30, particularly if it's an economic agency?

bro, please tell us all the meds you take.

This progression is quite unlikely, even by DSTA standards.

what a farking arsehole. u must be high on drugs dude. screw urself

Oh wow are you an underperforming civil servant? Why so sour? DSTA pays near 5k for fresh engrg grad with FCH and NS so don't see anything that is off. Not like that guy/girl is saying the pay is 10k

bro, it is 8:25 pm. take your med.

No they don't.

It's 9pm, time to eat your meds.

Nothing surprising about the 5.9K earned by the poster. There are certain schemes within the civil service which actually pays well, better than the normal MX schemes which most civil servants are on. I happened to be one of the luckier one to be on such a scheme. My pay progression is pretty similar to the poster, so I will think the figures he/she indicated is entirely reasonable.

Really a lot of siao langs here

Sour grapes everywhere. My friend told me to drop by this forum and this thread especially to observe how the lesser fortunate citizens disbelieves one and other. True enough, the lesser fortunate ones have failed to score better grades, could have passed out from a local university, but earning lower than someone who graduated from SIT for example. Further, the poor kids we have this self inferiority complex has led themselves to shut off from the world, recognising and submittig to the government that Civil Service pay is rubbish and no one gets such a good progression.

P.S. I enjoy my time here and even taking the effort to reply during my break time.

Just received notification from hr that can check PB on pac@gov on 16 mar

Agree to some extent. Civil service can be a good place to be in if you want a stable life. There is nothing wrong about this. I do have some friends who left civil service after a few years.It is up to individual's preference and career goals.

Question: Your written English is terrible. Is this the result of staying in civil service for too long?

bro, not a good idea. you are highly unproductive and doing meaningless job during your break time. I do not approve it.

Oh yes, all the while it has been that bad! especially poor capitalization,poor gram, limited vocab, and many more! And my bank account is so rich! 🤣🤣🤣

Hahahahaha, it is 'sis' btw, not bro. Uhhh, perhaps it is just time better spent as compared to others slogging out? 😏 perhaps it is just stubborn peeps who have to end up slogging their way till no end 🤔

Good to keep cash for emergency. But you need to learn some investment tools to create wealth.

In that case, I won't call you sis.
At this point, I would like to know your a/s/l.
Thank you.

Omg seriously? 5.9k at 30 yo or so and ppl are saying it's too high? Gosh civil service must really pays like crap.

If the bonus is from 4 to 6 months, then 5.9k is decent. Depends on job function too.

Yea decent package but it is no where near out-of-the-world kind of pay scale that some earlier posters perceived it to be. IB aside, many tech firms and FMCGs offer similar 100k and above per annual packages with much better corporate benefits (e.g. biz class for >6hr travel whereas only Director paygrade & above can do in CS, extensive medical and insurance, flexi-benefits for spouse etc.). Not mentioning those coys offer better career progression and optionalities in other companies compared to CS.

Yes I agree on the travel portion. My friend from a govt regulator takes economy class. Whereas my company is business class policy.

Likewise it is true for 100k packages and corporate benefits.

One important advantage the CS has over other tech firms, MNC etc is the stability it offers
Have anyone ever heard of retrenchment in the CS? Or the need to let go of ppl because of re-organisation (eg: shifting of HQ to other countries?). Moreover, the pay will only increase for CS over your length of service. It is unlikely that you will get a pay-cut (unless you get a demotion due to verrrry serious offence committed). This stability will only get more valuable as you age (where in the pte sector you risk getting replaced due to you being old and expensive). So, if the CS package is decent and comparable to the tech firms, MNCs etc but just losing out on things like business class travel for.overseas work trip, I am prepared to choose CS anytime. Haha. If you are capable enough to reach superscale grade in CS, you get the pay, fringe benefits and stability all at the same time.

Yes I agree with this also. There is alot of restructuring/redundancy etc. My company just had a re organisation. However we are all aware of the instability. The stability in CS does not entice me to join them. I am mentally prepared that job security is uncertain. If it does happens, I will need to see what the next steps. So meanwhile earn whatever there is while I am here.

Will being in civil service allow me to reach the salary to purchase condo? Or do i have to settle for HDB in the future when i get married?

You can even buy landed if you become Head of Civil Service or Perm Secs. Best still, get into politics and become the next next PM.

Controversial point but I feel that ppl who purely value the stability in CS, with no sense of mission etc, tend to be the less competent/capable folks who otherwise, wouldn't have survived/performed well in private. True that private sector is more cut throat but come on man let's face it, it's just practical for organisations to weed out incompetent folks - sth that CS can't do which leads to inefficiency and financial burden in supporting extremely non-performing personnel.

Also feel that being in CS will inadvertently cause one to be stuck within the organisation and the skills applicability elsewhere is fairly limited for the generalist roles. What if one made a significant mistake and got blacklisted; got disliked by the bosses; doesn't socialise well with the team; low visibility and etc. - the option to leave and start a fresh beginning elsewhere would be challenging. It's also much easier to transit from private to public but not the reverse.

So, if the pay package is similar for CS and your current company. Wouldn't it make better sense to join CS for the additional stability? Unless you are really passionate and interested in the current job you are doing :)

Question is how many people can be the head? The same goes for any private organisation as there are just that few roles for leadership.

The CS culture is just not something that I want. If I am getting the same package as CS, can CS give me a good increment if I join them?


I won't trade anything for stability especially at this time of my career. Even what I am older, I wont want to go CS as well.

Many people who left my company due to redundancy have gotten good packages and can take a good break or retire. Some have moved on to another company. This is especially so if you have a niched skillset.

Bro, this is called a loser mentality. You have not even begun walking and have already given up.

Feel that the job security part for CS is like an excuse for ppl who are less competence/have poorer performance as a safe heaven to keep their jobs. Corporates on the other hand has to be practical to weed out less competent and dead weights within the organisation - sth that CS doesn't really practise which leads to a higher level of inefficiencies and a bunch of farmers with no career aspiration and sense of mission.

Also the job transferability in CS is rather limited for generalist roles and in the event that one gets black listed; commit a serious mistake; immediate boss holds some prejudice; doesn't fit in with the team; and other office politics, that person would be stuck.

I rather do what is feasible at my current stage than to think of being a head.

A winner is not defined by your positon at work.