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Unregistered 25-03-2022 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210293)
You're a fresh grad right? with no competing offers?

Like I said it's 6k if high GPA WITH competing offers. 4.9 is of course high... so if you had competing offers and still took this 5.6k then yeah you got kinda screwed.

If not then it's pretty good. Just deal with it for a year or two and go hop to somewhere for 6-7k.

Where got ppl hop for so little increment

Unregistered 25-03-2022 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210322)
Where got ppl hop for so little increment

I think salary increment in shopee can reach 6k in a year, don't you think so?

Unregistered 25-03-2022 07:48 PM

anyone knows the salary range for shopee data analyst (fresh grads)?

Unregistered 26-03-2022 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210332)
I think salary increment in shopee can reach 6k in a year, don't you think so?

How the fk i noe u ask me for fk

Unregistered 27-03-2022 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210335)
anyone knows the salary range for shopee data analyst (fresh grads)?

around 5.5k to 6k

Unregistered 27-03-2022 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210335)
anyone knows the salary range for shopee data analyst (fresh grads)?

was offered 5k for a data analyst role. FCH with no competing offers.

Unregistered 27-03-2022 11:53 AM

lol who told u that 4.9k salary is high?? money is never enough in this world

this generation ah

Unregistered 27-03-2022 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210574)
was offered 5k for a data analyst role. FCH with no competing offers.

whats the package u received? whats the AWS/PB like?

Unregistered 27-03-2022 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210581)
lol who told u that 4.9k salary is high?? money is never enough in this world

this generation ah

?????

who said anything about 4.9k salary? u ok? first time reading?

Unregistered 27-03-2022 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210584)
whats the package u received? whats the AWS/PB like?

asking the real questions here

Unregistered 27-03-2022 03:38 PM

how much does a principal engineer at shopee make in total comp?

Unregistered 27-03-2022 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210584)
whats the package u received? whats the AWS/PB like?

Shopee has no AWS. 60k basic, PB up to 3 months.

Unregistered 27-03-2022 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210639)
Shopee has no AWS. 60k basic, PB up to 3 months.

thats not super good also sia lol what abt the working arrangement? full wfh? OT dog life or got wlb?

Unregistered 27-03-2022 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210642)
thats not super good also sia lol what abt the working arrangement? full wfh? OT dog life or got wlb?

It's not super good but it's far from bad. 60k basic annual comp excluding bonuses already puts you well above the median salary range in Singapore.

Regarding the working arrangement, don't expect a be all and end all answer for this kind of question. Nothing hard and fast. It's all about communication and understanding. You communicate to your higher ups if you have certain needs and requirements (e.g., WFH for certain days). Obviously, if you take on more projects/ gain more work experiences = Higher chance of promotion and earning more.

Unregistered 27-03-2022 10:46 PM

i remember when i was a fresh grad swe 15 years ago, my basic comp was 36k only...

Unregistered 27-03-2022 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210642)
thats not super good also sia lol what abt the working arrangement? full wfh? OT dog life or got wlb?

lol wat?

data analyst 60k is not good for a fresh grad with 0 competing offer?

lol no offence but what do fresh grads have anyway? do some massive data graphing with large corporations before complaining about base pay.

Unregistered 27-03-2022 10:50 PM

Supply and demand got a greater impact to your starting salary than FCH or 2nd class.

Shopee's rep means that they got greater supply than demand of fresh grads. 5k basic is higher than median SG salary ofc but its honestly mediocre for tech. GLC with less sexy of a reputation but with an ambition to build up a serious data analyst team will need to shell out more to attract talents (better wlb too).

Unregistered 27-03-2022 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210686)
Supply and demand got a greater impact to your starting salary than FCH or 2nd class.

Shopee's rep means that they got greater supply than demand of fresh grads. 5k basic is higher than median SG salary ofc but its honestly mediocre for tech. GLC with less sexy of a reputation but with an ambition to build up a serious data analyst team will need to shell out more to attract talents (better wlb too).

5k is ok for tech, it's not mediocre. Look at the total compensation, not just the base pay.

I get way less, like 4.5k ( entry level, first job after grad ) but with 20k SGD yearly vested stocks and choice to WFH regardless of the COVID situation in Singapore.

I could have went with my other offer 5.5k, but no RSU and need to go office everyday. I would have wasted traveling time ( 1-2 hours a day ), on top of that I need to OT like a bitch just because most companies have a stupid culture where if you leave early = you're not hardworking... Shopee has this culture btw.

Unregistered 27-03-2022 11:14 PM

idk how much difference you place between 'okay' and 'mediocre'.

Agree fully with considering pay on a per actual work hour basis. Though I don't consider commute to be part of 'work' per se because I use that time to read or catch up on Netflix. Having a immediate superior you can gel with is more important imo

Unregistered 27-03-2022 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210685)
lol wat?

data analyst 60k is not good for a fresh grad with 0 competing offer?

lol no offence but what do fresh grads have anyway? do some massive data graphing with large corporations before complaining about base pay.

i mean if u have 0 competing offers then u cant rly be a chooser anyway so good for u i guess.

but just so u know, here is the GES data for 2021 s://.asiaone.com/money/10-highest-starting-salary-degrees-singapore-2022, take it with a pinch of salt if u want but since u want "data graphing", dk what that means but ok, the top 2 of 10 courses are computing related surpassing law and medicine. inb4 someone says GES data is not accurate, in which case, pls show me more accurate data then.

anyway look, 60K basic for TECH (and not just any fresh grads from dk where) i wouldnt call it "good" but fair enough and maybe borderline mediocre. as what other ppl have pointed out, GLCs not even MNCs are paying 5.5k basic for tech and thats considered average lmao

Unregistered 27-03-2022 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210697)
idk how much difference you place between 'okay' and 'mediocre'.

Agree fully with considering pay on a per actual work hour basis. Though I don't consider commute to be part of 'work' per se because I use that time to read or catch up on Netflix. Having a immediate superior you can gel with is more important imo

That's nice... I can't stand commuting, after WFHing for so long I just can't go back to working in the office.

also your last point is true. i find it harder to gel with my team due to WFH. sadly this also means high chance i wont get my promotion fast lol which sucks but eh, i don't plan to stay long so it doesn't matter.

Unregistered 27-03-2022 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210639)
Shopee has no AWS. 60k basic, PB up to 3 months.

I'm the OP of this. To clarify, I have no prior work experience as a data analyst and my degree is unrelated (Engineering). I basically self-learned database languages and data visualisation tools and managed to do well enough for the test to get an interview with hiring manager. So, i wouldn't consider this a 'tech' offer but would lean more towards 'non-tech' in tech company.

Unregistered 28-03-2022 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210710)
I'm the OP of this. To clarify, I have no prior work experience as a data analyst and my degree is unrelated (Engineering). I basically self-learned database languages and data visualisation tools and managed to do well enough for the test to get an interview with hiring manager. So, i wouldn't consider this a 'tech' offer but would lean more towards 'non-tech' in tech company.

here is my $0.02 if u are keen. i am also like u in an engineering degree but i managed to pivot to a tech role in a tech company. it is rly quite doable given the tech crunch rn. anyone can try for tech(but not everyone would succeed and it is by no means easy) i would say u should try to apply for more tech roles if u are keen. else good job on getting out of engin LOL

Unregistered 28-03-2022 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210710)
I'm the OP of this. To clarify, I have no prior work experience as a data analyst and my degree is unrelated (Engineering). I basically self-learned database languages and data visualisation tools and managed to do well enough for the test to get an interview with hiring manager. So, i wouldn't consider this a 'tech' offer but would lean more towards 'non-tech' in tech company.

That's why 60k annual only. Once you get your foot in and can perform like your tech peers you'll be looking at 66-74k.

Unregistered 28-03-2022 12:54 AM

Got offered 98k annual package for data scientist should I accept? 1 year of experience.

Unregistered 28-03-2022 12:55 AM

I’m sorry, but I know Shopee work-life balance all too well already. You definitely need to OT like mad (996 culture) in your junior years before you get to enjoy a more decent WLB lifestyle (10am to 7pm, 5 days) in your senior years, and all for what, 66k - 74k total compensation after graduation?

You work like siao (12 hours / day), which is 4 383 working hours annually and if I were to assume highest total comp, it’s like what, $16.80 / hr?

Unregistered 28-03-2022 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210725)
I’m sorry, but I know Shopee work-life balance all too well already. You definitely need to OT like mad (996 culture) in your junior years before you get to enjoy a more decent WLB lifestyle (10am to 7pm, 5 days) in your senior years, and all for what, 66k - 74k total compensation after graduation?

You work like siao (12 hours / day), which is 4 383 working hours annually and if I were to assume highest total comp, it’s like what, $16.80 / hr?

gzus that rly sucks lol does SWE pay higher than data in shopee at least

Unregistered 28-03-2022 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210724)
Got offered 98k annual package for data scientist should I accept? 1 year of experience.

Oh? Shopee data science team should be on hiring freeze. I think someone left

Unregistered 28-03-2022 06:44 PM

there is opening for packer. they need to close their office and warehouse in india. anyone keen?

Unregistered 28-03-2022 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210725)
I’m sorry, but I know Shopee work-life balance all too well already. You definitely need to OT like mad (996 culture) in your junior years before you get to enjoy a more decent WLB lifestyle (10am to 7pm, 5 days) in your senior years, and all for what, 66k - 74k total compensation after graduation?

You work like siao (12 hours / day), which is 4 383 working hours annually and if I were to assume highest total comp, it’s like what, $16.80 / hr?

84k at least, not sure about the culture now since it's been a year since I left. Heard from juniors that it's better now. Their HR leads still a bunch of aholes trying to get attractive HR recruiters to honeypot tech recruits though.

Unregistered 28-03-2022 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210909)
84k at least, not sure about the culture now since it's been a year since I left. Heard from juniors that it's better now. Their HR leads still a bunch of aholes trying to get attractive HR recruiters to honeypot tech recruits though.

thanks to this forum, we know the truth.

Unregistered 28-03-2022 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210710)
I'm the OP of this. To clarify, I have no prior work experience as a data analyst and my degree is unrelated (Engineering). I basically self-learned database languages and data visualisation tools and managed to do well enough for the test to get an interview with hiring manager. So, i wouldn't consider this a 'tech' offer but would lean more towards 'non-tech' in tech company.

What do you mean by this is a non-tech offer. If this isn't a tech offer, then wad is?

Unregistered 28-03-2022 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210959)
What do you mean by this is a non-tech offer. If this isn't a tech offer, then wad is?

ignore him la he sibei kumgong

data analyst not tech? simi lj

then data is what? paper documents is it?

cb u analyze data from hardcopy papers is it? WTF kumgong max

Unregistered 28-03-2022 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210963)
ignore him la he sibei kumgong

data analyst not tech? simi lj

then data is what? paper documents is it?

cb u analyze data from hardcopy papers is it? WTF kumgong max

lol but its quite well known among tech that data ppl may not be the strongest technically as compared to SWE la is a spectrum between tech and non tech la for eg BA is definitely non tech but some middle roles do exist like some data roles

Unregistered 28-03-2022 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210959)
What do you mean by this is a non-tech offer. If this isn't a tech offer, then wad is?

some roles only know how use excel, tableau, qlik, power bi etc. if u dont even touch anything else can u rly call urself tech

Unregistered 29-03-2022 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 210981)
lol but its quite well known among tech that data ppl may not be the strongest technically as compared to SWE la is a spectrum between tech and non tech la for eg BA is definitely non tech but some middle roles do exist like some data roles

simi lj are u talking about?

data analyst in shopee uses python to create graphs first and foremost... strongest technically in terms of what? their technical tests are the same standard as their software engineer tests. 3-4 leetcode mediums minimally.

dont know dont talk cock.

Unregistered 29-03-2022 11:44 AM

In terms of actually writing scalable and efficient production code. Shopee data analysts need to know how to use Python and the hadoop stack to visualize and gather insights. That much is true.

You talk so much about leetcode but if you're even in tech, you'd know that ad hoc data queries and dashboard making don't even require that kind of algor knowledge demanded in "leetcode medium". If you only mention Python and have to ask "strongest technically in terms of what", I got some bad news for you...

TL;DR Yes, the Shopee DA role is considered tech but they're not as technically inclined as SWEs or even DEs.

Unregistered 29-03-2022 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 211026)
simi lj are u talking about?

data analyst in shopee uses python to create graphs first and foremost... strongest technically in terms of what? their technical tests are the same standard as their software engineer tests. 3-4 leetcode mediums minimally.

dont know dont talk cock.

Bro just ignore the retards lol... it's dead obvious that it's a tech role I don't even know why did you take the bait.

It's the same old retarded argument since 2010 when people argued that Sales Engineers were not tech-role. I have no idea since when did we categorized titles according to their workload rather than following what the professional industry says.

Data Analyst is tech role according to Professional industry standards. Why the fk do you care so much about some anonymous retard say? you ok?

You argue with retards, you become one yourself.

Unregistered 29-03-2022 12:13 PM

Hurr Durrr guys I do DevOps, I don't code, I set up configs and AWS. Therefore DevOps is not a tech-role.

What a fking moron... holy ****... mind = blown.

Unregistered 29-03-2022 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 211051)
Hurr Durrr guys I do DevOps, I don't code, I set up configs and AWS. Therefore DevOps is not a tech-role.

What a fking moron... holy ****... mind = blown.

lol ok bro devops i give u la but some data analysts only use excel and power bi u can call them tech? if shopee data analysts is not this kind then good for them but some data analysts rly just excel monkeys


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