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Unregistered 26-04-2023 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247129)
Grade G is equivalent to what ah? No longer tagged as Associate level right?

D-F - Assistant Manager / Associate
G/H - Manager / not associate

Unregistered 26-04-2023 10:56 PM

While serving notice, does it consider as "in-service"?

Unregistered 26-04-2023 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247142)
While serving notice, does it consider as "in-service"?

Yea 10char

Unregistered 28-04-2023 09:12 PM

Will GovTech-Con this year have Q&A session?

Unregistered 30-04-2023 09:30 AM

I'm 32, no ns. Getting 100k in G. Is this considered average?

Unregistered 30-04-2023 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246264)
Toxic Senior Management
10 Apr 2023 - Software Engineer

Pros

General staff benefits are good, and work-life balance is better than most of the other government agencies.

Cons

The senior management appear to lack concern for the well-being of their staff, particularly those in GDS central. The senior management team in GDS central may come across as kind and friendly, but they true character is far from it. They are solely concerned with impressing their superiors and showcasing the software's capabilities, without regard for the challenges faced by software developers in implementing such features. Despite the impracticality of these demands, they puts immense pressure on the team to deliver, often requiring excessive overtime. Their only concern is saving face, with little regard for anything else.

Another issue is the company's salary policies. When employees have raised concerns about their salaries not being competitive, the senior management dismissed them, citing their salaries as already being too high. It is apparent that this statement only applies to the senior management, who take credit for the work of the software engineers and reap the rewards, such as good grades and high bonuses. Meanwhile, the developers themselves receive mediocre grades and low bonuses, despite their hard work.

It is advised to approach joining Govtech, particularly GDS central, with caution. The senior management team put little regard for their well-being.

Advice to Management

The CE and HR should reconsider their approach to placing individuals in senior management positions.

It seems there are more new glassdoor reviews for the GDS side.

Unregistered 30-04-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247325)
I'm 32, no ns. Getting 100k in G. Is this considered average?

I think above average already.

How are your working hours like?

Unregistered 30-04-2023 11:45 AM

Is turnover very high in govtech?

Unregistered 30-04-2023 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247331)
I think above average already.

How are your working hours like?

100k is annual.
working hours, sometime need OT

Unregistered 30-04-2023 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247334)
Is turnover very high in govtech?

during covid period, yes

Unregistered 30-04-2023 01:52 PM

ENP Directors that have lost their directions
 
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247329)
It seems there are more new glassdoor reviews for the GDS side.

2.0 ★★
Current Employee, more than 1 year
Directors that have lost their directions
27 Apr 2023 - Engineer in Singapore

Pros

The staff welfare are generally good (e.g. snacks provided, coffee/tea etc.). Salary is generally quite competitive if we are comparing with other government agencies. There are many learning opportunities (e.g. ample courses that helps with our competencies and cross-knowledge) given to us as well.

Cons

The directors in ENP (which is under GDS) bascially have lost their sense of directions. Instead of focusing on long-term goals, they are more interesting in meeting all those short-term or ad-hoc requirements that are given by the customers or users. As those requirements are many and just keep coming in, this end up we as engineers or developers working overtime to meet those requirements. Sometimes our work end up being furtile, because the requirements got scrapped for some reasons, and we could have use those time to do a more meaningful work that at least meet the long-term goals. Because of all those changing requirements, the purpose of the project is kind of lost somewhat, and sometimes we ourselves are also lost in directions because the ENP directors direct us to the wrong directions. They say that we have to be agile and practice agile development to meet the new requirements, but I feel that this is just an excuse to pacify and make the users and customers "happy" in the expense of our time and our that we have lost. Also, one of the directors got promoted last year despite the subpar director work, which I'm not sure why though.

Advice to Management

HR should do a thorough review of the directors performance. Instead of just looking at what they have written in the staff appraisal, they should also consider taking in feedbacks from their subordinates and consider those feedbacks as part of their performance. Other than that, the staff benefits and learning opportunities are generally good.

Unregistered 30-04-2023 08:07 PM

Are fresh grads going to get 3.5months bonus on average again this upcoming may like last year?

Unregistered 30-04-2023 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247368)
Are fresh grads going to get 3.5months bonus on average again this upcoming may like last year?

your 3.5 is included copr bonus?

Unregistered 02-05-2023 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247368)
Are fresh grads going to get 3.5months bonus on average again this upcoming may like last year?

hahaha u wish bro, aft AWS fold in u wait long long

Unregistered 02-05-2023 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247477)
hahaha u wish bro, aft AWS fold in u wait long long

GT bonus and increment so little, how to compete with others Tech company?

Unregistered 02-05-2023 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247477)
hahaha u wish bro, aft AWS fold in u wait long long

should be back to pre-covid quantum?

Unregistered 02-05-2023 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247516)
GT bonus and increment so little, how to compete with others Tech company?

the answer is simple. just leave and join those other tech companies if you're unhappy.

Unregistered 02-05-2023 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247523)
should be back to pre-covid quantum?

What is pre-covid quantum?

Unregistered 03-05-2023 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247524)
the answer is simple. just leave and join those other tech companies if you're unhappy.

Who Let The Dogs Out?

Unregistered 03-05-2023 10:49 PM

gds central
 
lol someone needs to get kevin and hsiao ming to read the comments

Unregistered 04-05-2023 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247604)
lol someone needs to get kevin and hsiao ming to read the comments

what story? mind to share?

Unregistered 04-05-2023 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247604)
lol someone needs to get kevin and hsiao ming to read the comments

And also yoke may. She can be rather arrogant.

Unregistered 04-05-2023 10:50 AM

no la. a lot of comments in this thread has been directing to gds central

Unregistered 04-05-2023 07:55 PM

It’s not fair to reveal ppl identity and make negative comment on internet without basis and without assuming responsibility.

They are just normal person, not in charge of world peace, not threatening anyone… why have to expose them to the world in this way….

Unregistered 07-05-2023 10:12 AM

[Open Government Products] Software Engineer / Senior Software Engineer
Permanent, Full Time Executive 1 year exp Information Technology, Public / Civil Service
$9,600to$17,500 Monthly

[Open Government Products] Lead Software Engineer / Staff Software Engineer
Permanent, Full Time Professional 5 years exp Information Technology, Public / Civil Service
$18,700to$26,500 Monthly

OGP 1 year exp offer $9600? good to join?

Unregistered 07-05-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247859)
[Open Government Products] Software Engineer / Senior Software Engineer
Permanent, Full Time Executive 1 year exp Information Technology, Public / Civil Service
$9,600to$17,500 Monthly

[Open Government Products] Lead Software Engineer / Staff Software Engineer
Permanent, Full Time Professional 5 years exp Information Technology, Public / Civil Service
$18,700to$26,500 Monthly

OGP 1 year exp offer $9600? good to join?

Sign-on Bonus
2 month sign-on bonus for fresh hires

Unregistered 07-05-2023 04:51 PM

Hello,

Received an offer, Grade G, 8900/month for Data Scientist 2. Was told avg annual package is 14 months

I'm 31 this year, nss, NUS FCH + masters and many other significant accomplishments.

This salary seems low and not much different from other ministries, given that there is no 13th month, no mid year/end year AVC etc. Can I get your opinion on this offer?

Unregistered 07-05-2023 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247877)
Hello,

Received an offer, Grade G, 8900/month for Data Scientist 2. Was told avg annual package is 14 months

I'm 31 this year, nss, NUS FCH + masters and many other significant accomplishments.

This salary seems low and not much different from other ministries, given that there is no 13th month, no mid year/end year AVC etc. Can I get your opinion on this offer?

the additional 2 months = PB?

Unregistered 07-05-2023 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247877)
Hello,

Received an offer, Grade G, 8900/month for Data Scientist 2. Was told avg annual package is 14 months

I'm 31 this year, nss, NUS FCH + masters and many other significant accomplishments.

This salary seems low and not much different from other ministries, given that there is no 13th month, no mid year/end year AVC etc. Can I get your opinion on this offer?

what is your last drawn salary?

Unregistered 07-05-2023 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247879)
the additional 2 months = PB?

PB + corp bonus. Seems very low, when PB alone is 2.75 months for C grade in my old place

Also forgot to mention, 4 year exp

Unregistered 07-05-2023 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247882)
PB + corp bonus. Seems very low, when PB alone is 2.75 months for C grade in my old place

Also forgot to mention, 4 year exp

you from ministry with mx11? PB here average 1-2 months.

Unregistered 07-05-2023 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247882)
PB + corp bonus. Seems very low, when PB alone is 2.75 months for C grade in my old place

Also forgot to mention, 4 year exp

for 4 year epx, 8.9k is above average bro

Unregistered 07-05-2023 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247885)
you from ministry with mx11? PB here average 1-2 months.

yup. annually, the package not so diff from my old place. wondering if the offer worth accepting

Unregistered 07-05-2023 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247877)
Hello,

Received an offer, Grade G, 8900/month for Data Scientist 2. Was told avg annual package is 14 months

I'm 31 this year, nss, NUS FCH + masters and many other significant accomplishments.

This salary seems low and not much different from other ministries, given that there is no 13th month, no mid year/end year AVC etc. Can I get your opinion on this offer?

I’m grade H drawing 8800 with 10 years exp and 37 this year hence $8900 seems like a good offer for just 4 years experience!

Also what you think is significant might not be the case… NUS FCH + Master don meant anything, get a PHD then say..

Unregistered 07-05-2023 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247892)
I’m grade H drawing 8800 with 10 years exp and 37 this year hence $8900 seems like a good offer for just 4 years experience!

Also what you think is significant might not be the case… NUS FCH + Master don meant anything, get a PHD then say..

OGP 1 year exp earn $9600

Unregistered 07-05-2023 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247895)
OGP 1 year exp earn $9600

then join OGP :)

Unregistered 07-05-2023 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247897)
then join OGP :)

Jon grab better

Unregistered 07-05-2023 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247895)
OGP 1 year exp earn $9600

HR never appreciate the exp one

Unregistered 07-05-2023 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247888)
yup. annually, the package not so diff from my old place. wondering if the offer worth accepting

If not too different not worth leh. Change job in tech role always come with an increment

Unregistered 08-05-2023 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 247892)
I’m grade H drawing 8800 with 10 years exp and 37 this year hence $8900 seems like a good offer for just 4 years experience!

Also what you think is significant might not be the case… NUS FCH + Master don meant anything, get a PHD then say..

You sound salty. If its not recognized, why would HR value it as such then? Also it sounds like your experience isnt relevant, or HR doesnt value your qualifications.

Also, years of experience doesnt translate to capability btw. My peers are earning 140k++, same year of exp as me but I have better qualifications, hence the question of whether this offer is worth it since its quite a bit less.


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