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Unregistered 10-07-2020 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141471)
so normally what happen if you hit the salary cap for a rank? will you still get an increment or there is a wage freeze until the next rank?

Freeze till next rank maybe small increment for inflation adjustment. Got see many seniors all hentak kaki at M1 and end up wage cap around 6k. Some even in 40s still M1, quite sad.

Unregistered 10-07-2020 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141468)
Hop more then I guess? Mind you I was an FCH EEE who voluntarily chose to come to STE so I had a good starting pay. I could have easily gone elsewhere and be at 6k+ today or higher.

Also I think its cause you are contract worker, try convert to FT. Also I had multiple years of good performance, if average performer I think I would be a few hundred lower and still be an E6, thats why my pay is same as yours despite age difference.

Real cute. I'm FCH CS NUS 2003. U think u are the only FCH in this whole world?

Unregistered 10-07-2020 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141479)
Real cute. I'm FCH CS NUS 2003. U think u are the only FCH in this whole world?

You got FCH in a dumping ground post dot com big deal. You probs got low balled right out of the gate which leads you to today. CS nus in 2003 in no way resembles CS nus in the modern day. If you told me you were an FCH nus in 2019 then the story would be altogether different. If you were truly top tier material you wouldn't end up in a contract role at STE lmao. Hence your salary.

Unregistered 10-07-2020 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141475)
Freeze till next rank maybe small increment for inflation adjustment. Got see many seniors all hentak kaki at M1 and end up wage cap around 6k. Some even in 40s still M1, quite sad.

i see, since convid and stable job... i think can go there till this is over than see again lo

Unregistered 10-07-2020 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141447)
is 65xx-67xx considered high or normal for M1?

was offered a role for assistant principal engineer

the cap for M1 is 7K under new schema

Unregistered 10-07-2020 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141481)
You got FCH in a dumping ground post dot com big deal. You probs got low balled right out of the gate which leads you to today. CS nus in 2003 in no way resembles CS nus in the modern day. If you told me you were an FCH nus in 2019 then the story would be altogether different. If you were truly top tier material you wouldn't end up in a contract role at STE lmao. Hence your salary.

2019 fch big ****inf deal. What till you meet the fch class of 2030.
You'll be at the same stage now complaining that 2030 fresh grad starting pay is 10k while you are barely 9k.

Unregistered 10-07-2020 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141485)
2019 fch big ****inf deal. What till you meet the fch class of 2030.
You'll be at the same stage now complaining that 2030 fresh grad starting pay is 10k while you are barely 9k.

Possibly true, but if im still working in my 40s then I must be doing something wrong right? I'm single and have no commitments. Personally I've been diligently saving and investing since my nsf days and hopefully on track to retire in my early to mid 40s, albeit on a middle or lower middle income lifestyle.

Or who knows maybe ill stay on, STE is a retirement village anyways. Also there are literal Nus CS FCH fresh grads making 1.5x of my salary right now so we dont really need to wait till 2030 lmao

Unregistered 10-07-2020 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141481)
You got FCH in a dumping ground post dot com big deal. You probs got low balled right out of the gate which leads you to today. CS nus in 2003 in no way resembles CS nus in the modern day. If you told me you were an FCH nus in 2019 then the story would be altogether different. If you were truly top tier material you wouldn't end up in a contract role at STE lmao. Hence your salary.

Tsk. I own my own e commerce company. I buy cheap. Sell high. Earn profit. I am millionaire at 29. You all FCH only 5.1k at 31 yo. I think you worked your entire life also won't be able to reach 1 million.

Unregistered 10-07-2020 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141487)
Tsk. I own my own e commerce company. I buy cheap. Sell high. Earn profit. I am millionaire at 29. You all FCH only 5.1k at 31 yo. I think you worked your entire life also won't be able to reach 1 million.

haha good for you bro. Actually I join STE for the relax culture because during ns I realize im not the high flyer achiever kind just the slack kind of person. Good that your risk taking work out for you. For me I prefer much safer, save salary go invest buy VUSD,QQQ max out share scheme. Think I can hit millionaire status in my late 30s looking forward to retire in my mid 40s :).

I see some of my classmates become sole props some huat like siao got sme, some failed miserably end up bankrupt. I rather be average, have iron rice bowl.

Unregistered 13-07-2020 11:04 AM

from the above, it is clear that STE employees fav pasttime is comparing dicks lol

Unregistered 13-07-2020 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141596)
from the above, it is clear that STE employees fav pasttime is comparing dicks lol

Nothing to do at work so must take the equipment out to compare for fun.
Or else 8 hours pass by very slow everyday.

Unregistered 17-07-2020 09:23 AM

What's the pay range for m2?

Unregistered 17-07-2020 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 140356)
And I know someone who has been with ST for 6 years still E5.

Many of the engineers in a particular division are mostly stuck in their positions for 5-7 years, especially E5 and E6 engineers. Since the decision is made by the top management of the division, only those who wayang and make a lot of noise will get noticed. If not the performance must be top notch enough for the RO to sell to the management.

Example, first class honours and very hardworking and efficient worker, E5 to M1 in 7-8 years. The guy I talked about, carry balls top notch, push blame point finger number one and boss pet, E6 to M2 in 5 years. Before COVID happened this fella likely got promoted again to M3, according to his appointment.

I have seen engineers who gets promoted every 2-3 years, and those who promotes 6-7 years. As I've said, you have to take precedence from those in the same exact appointment before. If you are in a position in which previous staff left without promotion, likely can forget about it.

I am speaking from personal experience. Having ST Electronics in your resume will indeed let some recruiters take a second look, but really, remuneration elsewhere are likely better. Even if it's not, the number of wayang kings there is enough to make most sane people leave.

Unregistered 17-07-2020 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141920)
What's the pay range for m2?

Why do you need to know?
If you are new and the company offer you, if you feel it's low then don't accept.
If you want to ask for more, then you ask for more.

Again why would the company hire a new person from outside without any proven skillset other than just a resume. While suppressing the growth and potential of their existing engineers.

Unregistered 17-07-2020 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141920)
What's the pay range for m2?

I have seen M2 at $8850 old scheme in 2016, from one of the 62+ age asst principle engineer

Unregistered 17-07-2020 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141941)
Why do you need to know?
If you are new and the company offer you, if you feel it's low then don't accept.
If you want to ask for more, then you ask for more.

Again why would the company hire a new person from outside without any proven skillset other than just a resume. While suppressing the growth and potential of their existing engineers.

sounds like a very suppressed existing engineer ranting here. Afraid of newcomer taking away his/her rice bowl and outperform him/her. haha!

why would the company hire a new person from outside? Because engineers like you are incompetent from the inside la. Else hire for what? lol

Unregistered 18-07-2020 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141961)
I have seen M2 at $8850 old scheme in 2016, from one of the 62+ age asst principle engineer

assistant principal engineer is M1

Unregistered 18-07-2020 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141970)
sounds like a very suppressed existing engineer ranting here. Afraid of newcomer taking away his/her rice bowl and outperform him/her. haha!

why would the company hire a new person from outside? Because engineers like you are incompetent from the inside la. Else hire for what? lol

Sorry lo. I'm M4.
I rather promote an existing M1 to M2 who have been with company for 10++ than hire someone untested from outside.
In fact, that's my business unit practice.
We only hire E5 and E6 and groom them for long marathon.

Unregistered 18-07-2020 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141985)
Sorry lo. I'm M4.
I rather promote an existing M1 to M2 who have been with company for 10++ than hire someone untested from outside.
In fact, that's my business unit practice.
We only hire E5 and E6 and groom them for long marathon.

M4 doesn't make u competent. Read the history of this chat, bet u are those waiting to retire and is afraid of hiring new blood that can replace u in a few years spoiling your retirement plan.

Didn't know Ravi was hired with job grade E5 and E6. Hmm...

Unregistered 18-07-2020 10:02 AM

Does ST staff have any extra benefit when buying ST stock?

Unregistered 18-07-2020 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141983)
assistant principal engineer is M1

E4-Assistant engineer
E5-Engineer
E6-Senior Engineer
M1-Assistant Principal Engineer
M2-Assistant Principal Engineer
M3-Principal Engineer
M4-Senior Principal Engineer

Unregistered 18-07-2020 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141999)
E4-Assistant engineer
E5-Engineer
E6-Senior Engineer
M1-Assistant Principal Engineer
M2-Assistant Principal Engineer
M3-Principal Engineer
M4-Senior Principal Engineer

E5 - Project engineer
E6 - Senior Engineer
M1 - Assistant Principal Engineer
M2 - principal engineer
M3 - senior principal engineer
M4 - VP
M5 - sVP

Unregistered 18-07-2020 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141987)
M4 doesn't make u competent. Read the history of this chat, bet u are those waiting to retire and is afraid of hiring new blood that can replace u in a few years spoiling your retirement plan.

Didn't know Ravi was hired with job grade E5 and E6. Hmm...

Ravi is M2 meh. Use your brain la.
Sorry lo. I'm only 38.M4. Yes I'm that talented. I climb very fast cause I manage a strong team.
My latest project is a 10 million project.

Unregistered 18-07-2020 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 142001)
Ravi is M2 meh. Use your brain la.
Sorry lo. I'm only 38.M4. Yes I'm that talented. I climb very fast cause I manage a strong team.
My latest project is a 10 million project.

Oh! I was told by some 38 yo talented high flyer M4.

"We ONLY hire E5 and E6 and groom them for long marathon."

Don't know why now got hiring beyond E5 & E6. I'm sure the M4 is talented and climb very fast despite not knowing the management of his company. hmmm.... this is the part when competency comes in.

Unregistered 18-07-2020 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 141994)
Does ST staff have any extra benefit when buying ST stock?


Nope. No benefits for buying ST stocks for those joining after 2018.

Unregistered 19-07-2020 01:46 PM

Hi, is it common to be sent overseas to help with testing of systems (e.g. some NS exercise)? Are there very demanding conditions at such overseas training areas (e.g. have to sleep outfield with the troops) for civilian personnel?

Unregistered 19-07-2020 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 142061)
Hi, is it common to be sent overseas to help with testing of systems (e.g. some NS exercise)? Are there very demanding conditions at such overseas training areas (e.g. have to sleep outfield with the troops) for civilian personnel?

have heard of it. Can you share what was offered to you to go overseas? e.g is there any monetary compensation, benefits like time off etc?

Unregistered 19-07-2020 03:32 PM

I only heard they have to sign bond.

Unregistered 19-07-2020 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 142065)
have heard of it. Can you share what was offered to you to go overseas? e.g is there any monetary compensation, benefits like time off etc?

Off-in-lieu was mentioned to me in passing, since the overseas attachment would entail working on weekends and some weekday nights too. From what you heard, do you know if civilian personnel have better accommodations etc?

Unregistered 19-07-2020 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 142078)
Off-in-lieu was mentioned to me in passing, since the overseas attachment would entail working on weekends and some weekday nights too. From what you heard, do you know if civilian personnel have better accommodations etc?

What's your current grading and salary? how long have you worked? is there more salary for the overseas posting? how long will it be for?

Unregistered 19-07-2020 08:58 PM

now covid-19 still go overseas?
later cannot come back singapore.

Unregistered 19-07-2020 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 142065)
have heard of it. Can you share what was offered to you to go overseas? e.g is there any monetary compensation, benefits like time off etc?

There is this daily monetary compensation provided for oversea trip.
The rate given to personnel depends on the country that you will be travelling to. You can check with your HR prior to travelling, alternatively, if you are curious, just go to the staff portal and search for the rate under HR link.

Time off depends on team's culture, if your boss decides to give you then just take it.

Unregistered 19-07-2020 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 142085)
There is this daily monetary compensation provided for oversea trip.
The rate given to personnel depends on the country that you will be travelling to. You can check with your HR prior to travelling, alternatively, if you are curious, just go to the staff portal and search for the rate under HR link.

Time off depends on team's culture, if your boss decides to give you then just take it.

how long is your overseas trip?

Unregistered 22-07-2020 09:26 AM

Anyone knows the promotion increment for july this year?

Unregistered 23-07-2020 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 142344)
Anyone knows the promotion increment for july this year?

You share yours lo

Unregistered 23-07-2020 07:48 PM

u dunno what is wage freeze?

Unregistered 23-07-2020 09:29 PM

Wage Freeze only apply to Annual Increment which is ZERO this year,
if you are promoted you still get your promotion increment.

Unregistered 24-07-2020 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 142509)
Wage Freeze only apply to Annual Increment which is ZERO this year,
if you are promoted you still get your promotion increment.

nobody from my side is promoted except those new VPs.

Unregistered 24-07-2020 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 142509)
Wage Freeze only apply to Annual Increment which is ZERO this year,
if you are promoted you still get your promotion increment.

so how much is the promotion increment?
50? 100? 150? 200?

Unregistered 31-07-2020 06:57 PM

any one can share July promotion increment for ST?


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