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Unregistered 17-12-2020 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 151526)
Your encounter sounds very familiar too... or the term "you are the expert".

where is my expert pay and title then

Unregistered 18-12-2020 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 151559)
where is my expert pay and title then

Sadly, I've worked here long enough to know you won't go far here.

If you observe carefully, all the senior oldies have the same style
1. Appear to be helpful but really not much of a help
2. Don't really do all the work so don't get all the blame.
3. Don't really take credit for all the work, but take credit from here and there just enough to appear to be doing some work.

Always appear a team player. But don't have to really play in the team.

You haven't mastered the skill. Your promotion will come from length of service.
You outshine so fast, your light will burn out.

Act blur, play dumb. Survive.

Unregistered 18-12-2020 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 151574)
Sadly, I've worked here long enough to know you won't go far here.

If you observe carefully, all the senior oldies have the same style
1. Appear to be helpful but really not much of a help
2. Don't really do all the work so don't get all the blame.
3. Don't really take credit for all the work, but take credit from here and there just enough to appear to be doing some work.

Always appear a team player. But don't have to really play in the team.

You haven't mastered the skill. Your promotion will come from length of service.
You outshine so fast, your light will burn out.

Act blur, play dumb. Survive.

I think length of service also cannot promote. Many of the M1s and M2s are there for 15, 20 years and counting. If they do no move up or move out, there is no space for E5 and E6 to grow.

I had seen some E5s and E6s there for 7, 8 years and still at same grade.

Unregistered 18-12-2020 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 151574)
Sadly, I've worked here long enough to know you won't go far here.

If you observe carefully, all the senior oldies have the same style
1. Appear to be helpful but really not much of a help
2. Don't really do all the work so don't get all the blame.
3. Don't really take credit for all the work, but take credit from here and there just enough to appear to be doing some work.

Always appear a team player. But don't have to really play in the team.

You haven't mastered the skill. Your promotion will come from length of service.
You outshine so fast, your light will burn out.

Act blur, play dumb. Survive.

After acting blur, playing dumb. what's your job grade now? how long are you in the company?

Unregistered 18-12-2020 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 151580)
After acting blur, playing dumb. what's your job grade now? how long are you in the company?

Currently M2 after 10 years.
E5 - 3 years
E6 - 2 years
M1 - 3 years
M2 - 2 years.

I very lucky, my boss keep promoted and he pull me up with him.
I see some M2 have a lot of people report under them.

I'm lucky cause nobody report under me. Hahaha.
But the bad thing is I report to many ROs.

But I'm excellent in human skills. I can work with the bosses above.
Thus my promotion..

Unregistered 18-12-2020 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 151581)
Currently M2 after 10 years.
E5 - 3 years
E6 - 2 years
M1 - 3 years
M2 - 2 years.

I very lucky, my boss keep promoted and he pull me up with him.
I see some M2 have a lot of people report under them.

I'm lucky cause nobody report under me. Hahaha.
But the bad thing is I report to many ROs.

But I'm excellent in human skills. I can work with the bosses above.
Thus my promotion..

You are indeed lucky that your boss still helps you after getting his own promotion.

Most of them get promoted and forgot almost about anyone else except those they like.

Unregistered 18-12-2020 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 151582)
You are indeed lucky that your boss still helps you after getting his own promotion.

Most of them get promoted and forgot almost about anyone else except those they like.

My boss promoted to lead a division. He don't have ally so he pull me along lo.
In this company, is all about making alliances.

And since my boss also know he won't get a chance to be promoted to M4 he also retiring mode.
Me too. So anything we both also try to siam haha.

Unregistered 18-12-2020 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 151583)
My boss promoted to lead a division. He don't have ally so he pull me along lo.
In this company, is all about making alliances.

And since my boss also know he won't get a chance to be promoted to M4 he also retiring mode.
Me too. So anything we both also try to siam haha.

what's the salary range for m2?

Unregistered 18-12-2020 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 151583)
My boss promoted to lead a division. He don't have ally so he pull me along lo.
In this company, is all about making alliances.

And since my boss also know he won't get a chance to be promoted to M4 he also retiring mode.
Me too. So anything we both also try to siam haha.

All I saw during my years there was the senior management and their pets get promoted. The time you gotten from E5 to M2 is the same time as some people getting from E5 to E6, which was seriously pathetic. It's no wonder certain divisions turn over rate so high, some new hires don't even stay beyond 3 months.

Unregistered 18-12-2020 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 151589)
All I saw during my years there was the senior management and their pets get promoted. The time you gotten from E5 to M2 is the same time as some people getting from E5 to E6, which was seriously pathetic. It's no wonder certain divisions turn over rate so high, some new hires don't even stay beyond 3 months.

I admit this is true. But the same can be said about EVERY JOB.
If I give you a magic wand now and ask you to promote someone who is under you and you can ONLY choose one.

Who will you pick?
The one who you have bonded and have personally work with?
Or some newbie who is always sitting at his cubicle "working" but nobody know what.

It's normal for you to ALSO pick the person you familiar with.
And your OTHER staff will say you choose your PET

There is just NO WAY TO ESCAPE this harsh reality.
I rather be the pet or the one who choose the pet.
Then to be a disposal garbage.

You choose your own path.


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