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Hi

I am currently doing my part time degree at SUSS.
I am offered a job at NCS as a software developer.
I have no experience but the job that i have been offered provide training.
The training program is called Nucleus. Any feedback about the program ?

What the pay i should be looking at ? i am in my final year of my uni
Hence i still considered diploma holder i guess.

They are going through my process. I have yet to negotiate pay.

Those worked with NCS before please kindly share...

Is a quite good program for fresh grad .

Pay is around $4k .

He did say he's a diploma grad in the reply. Pls read in full before reply

This “Nucleus” program specially for those fresh grad and those going to graduate .

Bank offer 4.6k for this type of program

should ask if there’ll be an adjustment of your pay once you graduate if they don’t offer you 4k (which is the current starting pay for the degree holders.)

Thanks for reply guys
 

Thanks for the replies
I have yet to hear from them again as it the weekend.

Yea i will probably check about the pay adjustment. Hope they are willing to give a increment once i gradute...

Any idea how is the work ? workload ?
I heard mixed review about NCS. Please share if you have any..
I plan to join just to get experience.

thanks

Not bad for starter to gain experience .

Workload is depends on project .

But advice to move some where else after one year .

Very hard to adjust pay if you dun go in as a degree graduate, they will give lots of excuse to not adjust your pay to degree, the whole process might take 1 yr - 2 yrs after you graduate to adjust your pay to the fresh grad pay.

Last I heard the salary is 3.6k

happen to most of my friends, unless you have outstanding result

workload is depend one

I heard management is quite problematic, maybe now have changed

overall management still problematic .

Just treat it as stepping stone and move on .

Just let them know you will join after get your degree and request $4k .

Don’t forget $4k is included AWS .

Will any company put such a thing in their contract??? If anything, it will just be at most a verbal thing which ultimately means nothing?

Just tell HR your expected salary is $4k .

If they said you don’t have degree and low ball you .Then you tell them you will join them after you get degree and expected salary is $4k .

If they can’t commit do a adjustment after you get degree . Just join after you get your degree . Ncs turn over rate very high , don’t worried about the job .

No verbal . Every thing black and white .

I local uni fresh grad, 2nd lower. Got offered 4k

The range can be quite wide and dependent on the hiring person.

P2 PM was offered at $6K/month for 8 to 10 years experience.
P4 can range from 8K to 10K depending on experience
P5 range from 9K to 12K

This is based on recent salaries I came to know about.

Haha ya the good ones run away left only the problematic ones lol!!! The sales VP is especially nasty to delivery team.

P2 is not a PM. It is senior consultant. 3 years experience senior consultant (join as fresh grad. Promoted at 1.5 yrs) 5.6k (highest i heard) from my batch.
P3 is Team Lead / Assistant PM level (6.8k) ard 10 years experience
P4 is PM and your range is correct
P5 is senior PM and your range is correct

However note that there is no AWS. and for the last performance review if you get rating of 4/5 (1 being highest, 5 being lowest) you get 0 month bonus. Rating of 3, you get 1 month bonus with no increment. Rating of 2 , you get 2.5 months with increment.
Not sure about rating of 1.

Cheers hope this helps so that you dun get short changed. Generally try to negociate for higher pay as they are more willing to give. After you join, the progression is generally 3% per year (base on performance rating of 3) minus this year since this year singtel profit dip hence the bonuses was very bad

If you technical skillset is meh, you can consider joining and volunteer for bigger project and be a slave for 2 years to gain the experience and leave after that. After you leave, you can expect around 20-30% jump in pay if you are not yet promoted. I got around 35% pay jump after i left after 2 years.(abit more since the new job got AWS)

Workload - Project dependent, some project like heaven 10am go in 6pm go home + 2 hours lunch. Some project 9am go in 11pm go home + no time for lunch + dinner.
See Heng Suay.

If your technical skillset is slightly above average, can consider join bigger companies like accenture, workload definitely high but more recognized internationally compared to ncs and higher pay.

To me if you work 9 am to 11pm might as well go accenture chiong sua. Although it is not rare to work until 3am in accenture

Aiyo, which sales VP? Left two now. It is very messy now so beware to anyone joining.

For someone with a local degree without tech background, is NCS a good place to start going into tech? Appreciate current employee, ex-employee or anyone in the tech field for their feedback!

Good for stepping stone . Better leave after one year .

Thanks for the reply! Isn't a year too short?

For a first job, it's still okay. Unless the pay and stability is good for you then imho, just ship is better... they will likely squeeze you to do 2 person's job anyway. :p

What are the exit opportunities for NCS application consultant with not strong tech background? Accenture consulting role?

System Integrator (Accenture, Gemalto, HCL, Infosys etc..) or Public Sector. Basically either vendor or vendor management. Highly unlikely to get into any tech company since you won't be able to pass their interview with not strong tech background but no harm trying. Basically anything that require technical test is out for you

Hi,

Does anyone know if you join NCS as network engineer with CCNA, what grade will you be at? P1/P2 etc?

CCNA just an entry cert and even a no network background ppl can get it .

A lot FT come with 2-3 CCIE so what you expect for CCNA ?

P1 or P2 is base on your experience and existing pay .

ncs application consultant or psa system analyst better?

Does anyone know what the P3 and P4 grades correspond to?

P1 - Entry level/App consultant
P2 - Senior App consultant
P3 -???
P4 -???
P5 - Senior Manager
E grades - directors

P1- associate app consultant
P2 - app consultant
P3 - senior app consultant
P4 - lead app consultant

That's how the rating goes

I got like 6.3k offer and P3 with 5.5 years of working experience since degree graduation. Is it consider a lowball?

Anyone has accurate data or knowledge of P5 (senior manager) or E1 (assoc director) salaries? Just wondering if this is a worthwhile company to grow my career in as it typically takes at least 8 to 10 years of experience to reach those grades...

Nucleus program
 

Anyone got into nucleus program?? Hows the pay and benefit like???

work until 3am in accenture? depends on which project you are on and your scope of work. usually people dont work until 3am la please. dont tiagong until anyhow say leh.

May I know why you all say accenture is better than NCS?

From what I know, accenture developer starting pay is 3.8, whereas NCS is 4.1.

Also accenture OT like hell, can NCS be worse?

NCS you need know how to tai chi and siam job .

IF you have CCNA , with no network background most likely you will do all junior roles and **** jobs. Have ccie does not mean they are skilled enough. Some have fake ccie,

Got anyone who started with development and later was thrown into the maintenance as the dev cycle ended?

Is this a good moment that I should move on and find new opportunities? or should I at least stay for a while? (I do feel like maintenance work not contributing to my skillset developement at this point tho..)

Speaking as a production support manager, if you haven't moved into a support role before, it would be good to round out your skillsets in spending some time in a production support/maintenance role for a short period.

Depending on the organization you work in, and the current and future affairs of your organization, it's good to have a support/maintenance skillset as the world of development moves into DevOps. So if you are doing only waterfall development, and that's not going to change in the next two to three years, you may want to consider moving on, but that depends on where you are in life, your age, circumstances etc. If you work in a world of hybrid development styles (WAgile/Watergile?) it's certainly worth evaluating. In my organization, production support/maintenance has the most power and influence. In a lot of other organizations, it's the other way around, but that depends on your Agile/DevOps roadmap and maturity.

I have a few developers in my team who moved into a production support/maintenance role, and for them, they were much more appreciative of the development and support process, particularly when we are on a path to move towards DevOps. Some food for thought.