does anyone know when we will receive our pay if we are working in a ministry? is it the second week of the month?

sorry for going OOT but what is the difference between

DIV 1
DIV 2
DIV 3
DIV 4?

Public Service - Comchest
 

can anyone tell me how much does a Manager level staff in Comchest earn? I understand it falls under Public Service and not Civil Service. Whats the difference between the 2 anyway?

Has anyone worked in WDA? Can share experiences?
 

Dear fellow forumers,

Would appreciate your feedback on this Stat Board - WDA.

Is the ranking Asst Director and Principal Manager the same? What's the range of pay like in these roles?

They recently been hiring again....

Regards

Comchest is a sub-unit of the National Council of Social Service (NCSS) which is a statutory board of Ministry of Community, Youth and Sports.

"The Singapore Public Service employs some 127,000 public officers working in 15 Ministries, more than 50 Statutory Boards and 9 Organs of State. Within the Public Service is the Civil Service, comprising more than 76,000 officers working in the Ministries and Organs of state. They work in various schemes of service, including the Administrative Service, legal, education, police, civil defence as well as other generic schemes. Statutory boards (such as HDB, CPF Board, IRAS, etc) have their own recruitment and human resource management policies. They are legally distinct and independent employers from the Civil Service".

Just imagine Singapore Airlines as Civil Service (parent company) and its subsidiaries Silk Air (fully owned) and Tiger Airways (partially owned) as Statutory Boards... same concept... there's a natural tendency that the parent company has a higher profile than its subsidiaries :)

There is also a tendency to assume that by joining a Stat Board (which is supposed to be more efficient than a Ministry), you have a strong interest in what they do. For example, it's typical to stereotype those who join Singapore Sports Council as someone who like sports a lot...

I started work in a Stat Board and then moved to a Ministry. In terms of remuneration, I'd say it's fairly comparable, +/- 10-15% depending on many factors such as experience, relevance, qualification, etc... stayed 2 years in Stat Board and 5 years in Ministry... can tell which one I prefer :p

of course the increment in ministry is much much better!!!, some more in FEB2012 got a wage adjustment range from 5%-15%, most people are getting 10%....more...

MI for c grade for mx12 is about 3.3 %

Is there any co-relation with CEP on the MI that we receive???How CEP is derived?During point of interview?Or during appraissal

sad to say, it is being determined during ur interview. After which job performance may change the CEP. BUT......mainly due to whether ur boss like ur face or not. period.

3.3% is on the lower end of the scale. Has this got to do with a low CEP?

noticed that stat boards love to hire on contract basis. So what happens after the contract ends? The staff gets kicked out? And is there any difference between perm and contract staff in terms of pay and other benefits?

most will receive the perm scheme after 1 year or when the contract end, the benefit is the same

Thanks for the reply.

So this contract period is like a 'probation'? Or will there be a separate probation period?

thanks for the detailed explanation but you haven't mentioned how much will a manager earn in ComChest (on average)

yes i'm aware of your question but you should be able to tell by now if you had read the past pages of this thread... ministry and stat boards are somewhat comparable... +/- 10-15%... if you're really lazy to read them, then my lazy answer to you is $3000-$4000/mth.

most prob he/she is reaching ceiling soon...so the slowdown..

oh i see, sounds logical. Otherwise, i think the typical merit increment is around 5%.

Hi. I'm now 28 yrs old, male with NS and pass degree. Started work in a ministry at $3.3k in 2008. Now drawing around $4.4k. Is my pay average? Thanks.

Way below average..... when compared to ministers. :D

what class of honours do you get?

-1st class
-2nd upper
-2nd lower ??

I suppose you born in 1983 , working close to 4 years of exp.

2008, MX13>>>$3300
2009, MX??>>>$XXXX
2010, MX??>>>$XXXX
2011, MX??>>>$XXXX
2012, MX??>>>$4400

Can you please fill in the ?? and the XXXX,

Is the $4400 you had mention, is that the salary after this april merit increment?

I also noted that in Feb civil servant at your grade are given +10% salary adjustment

Are you a C grader or B grader?

If you annual salary = 16 months (included AWS/AVC/PB) = 16 x 4400 = 70400..

anyway you have done better than me working in GLC as an engineer, I am from 1982, grad in 2007 male, 2nd lower

2007july = 2.9k
2012july = approx $3842<<yes this is the salary after 5 years exp with 1 promotion.

you got 1 year advantage than me, and your salary is about $600 more:(

Bean, he's already said that he has a pass degree. Probably took a 3-yr course.

Anyway, the whole forum knows you earn less than 1st class fresh grads...you can stop repeating it over and over.

Thinking of taking a part-time course in unisim. Is unisim degree recognised civil service(eg. stat board)?

Mine is a pass degree, so no honours. I'm in the DXO scheme which has a different rank system. Guess I'm a MX12 equivalent. And a average C grader with yearly about $200 increment. No salary revision this time as revision was last done in Oct last year. And yes, $4.4k is after my April MI.

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Bean, u r really an interesting fellow. U sound like one friend working in ST always unhappy with that company.
Have been focusing at all ur postings, ur past records, ur experiences and writing habits&style , all matches with him perfectly.
Good luck, and I hope u progress well.

I appreciate that he's active in this forum, sorta like a moderator. Appreciate his tracking and contribution of other ppl's stats as well, though i'll just pass over his income details as I've seen them too many times.

Cheers

wow!!!, it seem that be a DXO is not bad after all, with a pass degree + performing C all these 4 years, still can get $4400.

my NUS friend 1st class male, is getting like 4.1K after 5 years in private sector.

If he join DXO as a 1st class and with 5 years exp, and base on your increment info provided, he may be getting at least 5.3K to max low 6K

vatadsa
 

sigh, till now still no news of salary increment....

Bean works in Info-comm.

Re: Promotion increment
 

Hi, recently got promoted from MX12 to MX11. But the promo increment was about $250? Is that normal? I would have expected more given that it was a grade jump.

what are ur qualifications? years of service in MX12? current pay (before and after promo)? All will be helpful in understanding/explaining your situation.

Could you provide more info to access your situation?

@Last drawn MX12 salary
@Current MX11 salary
@Years of exp till now

Which stat board u from?

uniformed service...

your pay is close to the ceiling...thus the small increment.

I was promoted to MX11 in 2010 and got a 8.8% merit increment (relative to the recent pay hike for MX scheme). Got B as a performance grade.

Anyone on MX11 and got a C grade? Want to know the ~% merit increment for average performer? Thanks.

ppl seem to be too fixated on percent and grade, which only tell half of the story, the MX scheme has a very wide salary scale. Some MX12 may even be paid more than some MX11.

For example,

Officer A - Base = $5K, MI = 10%
Officer B - Base = $8K, MI = 5%

So, who is "better off" afterall? Another factor is the no. of years taken for every $1000 jump e.g. take 2-5 years for every $1K jump etc?

Could you elaborate more, Sensei? I understand how some MX12 can be paid more than MX11 but those at MX12 are likely to have a lower CEP hence they are retained within MX12 grade for longer time. Comparing those on the same grade e.g. MX11, just want to know B = X% MI and C =X% MI?

Lastly, I took ~3 years for every 1k jump. Now earning 5.7k for less than 5 years experience. 2nd upper male with ns. not a scholar. in a ministry MX scheme. first job since graduation.

LOL your salary is really IMBA!!!! You are from the 2007july grad batch right!! Me same batch as you. I will need to work my @ss off at least 10 more years to hit your 5.7k in my company!!! And by that time, you should be MX10 or MX9 with a salary of min 8k - 12k range!!!

Just some question about civil service:

I quote 3 scheme:
DXO scheme
Education scheme
MX scheme

The education scheme is under the GEO scale, from the website, got the CONNECT Plan Payouts, like once every 3-5 years, teacher are allow to get some $$ from this plan...


The DXO also got kind of plan similar to CONNECT Plan, as stated in the website few years back, now they remove the info already.>>Can someone really confirm this?

Just curious do the MX scheme also have similar plan, that allow employee to draw out lump sum $$ once every 3-5 years??

Thank

Yes. For DXO scheme, every four years, the DXO is entitled to $8k of incentive.