31 yo liao no a levels/poly dip, online degree, no work exp
 

hello, i am 31 yo liao, i dropped out of a levels/poly, then went on to do a completely online degree from the uk, afterwards realised cannot use it to find job in singapore. so i left singapore and worked in malaysia teaching english for 5 years. recently, i realised i am losing out and there is no future in this line so now i want to go back to sg to work on my office based career, i hope to earn 3-5k each month that is good enough for me, start a family, work in a stable job, save cpf for retirement.

i know my online diploma and degree are not recognised (although they are accredited uk degrees) so i decided to go back to school for the next 1-4 years then go into job market.

now i have been accepted into 2 courses.

1. james cook university singapore campus 1 year bachelors commerce degree (they gave me advanced standing of 2 years)

2. pursue a 4 year phd in hong kong (top 50 university in the world) with minimal student stipend.

which one do you think i should go after? my point of doing another degree is to cover my online degree and apply for jobs in sg, government jobs, or etc. i will only use the jcu degree after i graduate.

as for the phd, it is very enticing to give it a try but it is a long hard road, and my online degree will still be under it, will that affect my job search in sg if i graduate?

goal in life is just to find any business related job, best is banking or marketing, and earn 3-5k each month, start a family, settle down.

First question in mind, a top 50 uni in HK accept online degree? i seriously dont think so. well if this post is real, you can pursue a PHD and come back to sg is better then the degree from james cook. Government may or may not consider your PHD as your degree in online course. If they accept you, probably pay will be lower but still will be more then your 3k-5k depending where you go.

if you do not even dare to say out the name of ur hk uni, it is just as good as the james cook uni degree.

which is just as good as your current degree.

come on lah. work in what office based career?

y not you continue to apply for poly again?

it is real. it is an online diploma and degree but i got good gre scores and the degree itself is fch. phds are easier to get in as very few people want to spend so many years without a job in school, and phd doesn't increase your salary vis a vis a masters.

a local university also shortlisted me, still waiting for results.

the thing is in singapore you guys are so fussy about online offline etc yet only 30% of each cohort can go to local university. so many companies dont 'recognise' my online degree. it is a pain in the ass, so i got to go back to on campus to do basically the same modules again. i made a mistake doing an online degree anyway.

i am not confident about finishing the phd, as 50% don't complete, it is not easy. beside i will be giving up 4 years of income and i will be 35 if i do complete, losing out on more working years?

the jcu degree is just 10 modules and 1 year. after i get it i can do a 1 year masters or most probably work for a few years. you think after i get that degree i can find a entry level banking or marketing job? what are my chances? how about getting into the civil service?

that's all i want to do in life, just 3-5k stable job i am happy.

Done online or taught online? "Online" degrees got a huge variance. On one end there are those fake ones or retarded ones. On the other hand you have those like UOL that is taught online and self-study but the degree is no different from what SIM people are getting.

So firstly we have to know what and where you got the degree from? Secondly, PhD from HK in what field? And which Uni in HK?

i think people need a proof of which local uni shortlisted you before you can get real advice. Because looking at what you've said here, fch or not, it doesnt matter because afterall it is a online degree. getting into CS with james cook degree i think you can just dream on.

So even after studying in jcu sg campus cannot get into civil service? How about teaching etc? Or mnc job? You guys think possible to find such jobs after jcu?

The phd, i am not sure, but there is a chance to exit with a masters. But seems like a lot of trouble for no money.

Does it really matter? Finishing the phd and passing the viva will be difficult. Even then, i will be 35, isn't that too old to start saving for family retirement? Continue in academia i got what chance against the ivy league tsinghua guys? Go to post doc or be a researcher pay is only 4 or 5k, if u can get a job. Go to industry, maybe 3 or 4k, no difference from bach.

Seems like a lot of time for little monetary reward.

You need to think in terms of the labour market and pay realities instead of approaching it from an angle of study this study that etc. First, let’s take a look at your situation and expectations.

By the time you finish your HK online PHD, you will be 35 years old with zero experience working in either Singapore or an “office based job”, so in a sense you are like a fresh graduate. Your expectations of 3-5k is approximately the equivalent starting pay of either an entry associate level job in a MNC/public sector or at the higher end, a management program of a foreign bank/mnc or reputable management consultancy.

Who are your competitors in these jobs? Generally 21-24 year old fresh graduates from NUS/SMU/NTU who have various industrial internships and usually 2nd upper or 1st class honours. Some might even be Masters from good universities. You will neither be competitive in academics nor age nor experience. Public sector and MNC is a dead end for you if you ask me.

What about SME? Maybe, but I seriously doubt they will bother with paying anything more than 3k for an executive Private university students who upgraded from diploma and usually have some years of relevant work experience are usually being offered anywhere from 2.4-3k now, it is doubtful that you will be able to go above that. My best guess your online PhD is going to get you ~2.5k at best and even then your chances are not very high considering your age and lack of experience.

What should you do? My advice is stop wasting time and money on generic online degrees, they are not worth anything especially considering your age and lack of experience. What you need is proper relevant skillsets and experience. Go and look for local reputable polytechnic diplomas that are more targeted on a particular skillset. Study them either part time or full time and in the mean time try to get a local based job (even if it is clerical level) to gain some experience and additional income.

After that, you can better reset your career on that skill path and upgrade with relevant certs and degree as you go along. This will mean studying, starting from diploma (1.8-2.2k starting) and working you way up. Stop fantasizing on shortcuts hoping to grab online degrees to slingshot your way past local degree grads, it doesn’t work this way. If it’s that easy everyone would have done it. Why bother to cramp your studies in poly/JC/uni if an online degree gets you there as well?

basically, there is a standard in CS, MNC or teaching. ALL of these requires reputable universities certs. Hence a degree in jcu is really a hard case.

both options are mornic & dun work. cs will not hire some online degree guy at 3-5k regardless of whether phd or not.

as for mncs even more impossible, generally they take in better quality students then even cs. no way they are interested in offering this sort of money for an online grad when they have the ivies & local fch to choose from. at most ur going to get in as some office admin job at <2k.

the only other way is to do sales. if ur good then the comissions can be high, otherwise both options are dumb imo.

sorry but what was the previous poster talking about? i have an accredited online degree, which was a mistake. to solve this mistake, i will study further.

i got admitted to into 2 on campus full time programmes because i am trying to get a stable 3-5k job (not immediately after graduation, but i mean after a few years of working i hope to reach that level).

one programme is jcu's degree, i need to complete 1 year full time.

second programme is a phd in south china, from a top 100 university.

i was just wondering which one i should go with if my goal is just to get a stable job in singapore, mnc, teaching, etc, and earn 3-5k over time, not immediately as a fresh grad of course.

so anyone who is not an ivy or local fch can't find a job in an mnc or civil service? :rolleyes:

a guy with a phd is not as quality as a bachelors degree guy? :rolleyes:

I am working in cs. i have a local degree from NTU - just pass. not even honours.

May I ask if your degree is a direct honours? How many years of work experience and current annual pay?

I got an online degree. So according to some of the giys here, even if i get an on campus degree, or a reputable masters, i still can't join a mnc or cs.

Wth so these places are local uni alumni clubs? And even if i get a masters i will still make coffee in a 10 person sme?

Fml.

no need think, just go for the phd. A piece of james cook paper is as useful as the online degree

read somewhere that civil service in singapore only considers your bachelors, they dont care about your masters or phd.

also read that even grads from lousy universities such as upper iowa university can become teachers with moe as long as it is on campus.

personally, i am thinking about this, why do a phd and finish at age 35?

I doubt the private sector really gives a flying shiit about some South China PhD obtained through internet. Yes it may surprise you, but really companies do think a Bachelor with pass from SMU or NUS is better than an online PhD from South China. Let's not even get to the lousier choice of doing an online 1 year degree with JCU. Whether you think it's fair or not is besides the point, it is what it is. The same thing with civil service as well.

Don't take my word for it. Go Linkedin and do a search of all the major MNC Associates or civil service entry level MX Managers, tell me which of them has an online South China doctorate or a 1 year online JCU bachelors.

Market realities are the only thing that matters, your opinion of how fantastic your online course is counts for squat. Time to wake up.

Maybe you should consider just coming back to Singapore and apply for an office job. As long as your expectations are reasonable (2-2.4k), should still be able to get a general desk bound job.

I don't think getting an unspecified PhD from South China will result in higher pay if end result is you are still going for normal office job like marketing executive or consumer banker. Seems like a waste of $$$ if you just want to get this kind of job and most likely over qualified.

As for the 1 year JCU cert that one is worse than even private universities like SIM, complete waste of time and at the end of the day I don't think it will increase your chance or pay.

WRT MNCs and civil service, I think you have to be realistic. Chances are honestly quite low irregardless of your choice unless it is more sales and business development type. Maybe when you have enough relevant working experience they are willing to consider you, but definitely not straight away with this kind of academics.

there are so many uol or curtin or james cook fresh grads at second lower that join big companies at entry level. is that really very unrealistic? we are not talking about joining at managerial level right?

as for '1 year' cert, that is due to advanced standing and no holidays, it will probably be 2 years if there are summer/winter holidays. it is not exactly a 1 year certificate...it is a 3 year degree with advanced standings given.

why take another 3 year degree without exemptions and repeat everything i learnt? i am not young anymore. even obama transferred credits from occidental college to his harvard degree which was just a 2 year degree.

as for the phd, yes, i feel a little like you do.

do people like you have dyslexia or just lack synapses?

how did you manage to spin it till the south china phd or jcu bachelors are online? i am not even aware that jcu has online bachelors.

as for mnc managers with jcu bachelors, i know 2 on my facebook personally even without searching on linkedin. one earns 20k plus monthly as regional director, another 6-8k as local hr manager. want me to send you their resumes?

I am waiting for my water to boil, so i decided to take a look on linkedin, searching for james cook singapore alumni to look at their current positions, just as you suggested. thanks for waking me up! i am happy i answered my own question with my own real world research. there are tons of these guys in the government sector.

1. HR Executive at Ministry of Social and Family Development

https://www.linkedin.com/profile/vie...OUT_OF_NETWORK

2. Snr Asst. Director (Pedagogical Practice) at Nanyang Technological University

https://www.linkedin.com/profile/vie...OUT_OF_NETWORK

3. Postdoctoral Research Fellow, National University of Singapore

4. School Counsellor at Ministry of Education, Singapore

https://www.linkedin.com/profile/vie...OUT_OF_NETWORK

5. Civil Servant at Singapore

6. Rehab Officer at Ministry of Social and family Development

7. Senior Executive (Education Technology) at National University of Singapore

8.

Sure, there are a lot of private uni students in big companies, but what sort of jobs? As far as I can tell most are mainly below local degree semi exec/ops type of jobs at 2k+ levels. You already have an online degree, to me I fail to see how getting another 1 year cert from JCU is going to increase chance or pay in these type of jobs. The JCU cert isn't going to help you to get a proper associate job that pays 3k+, so why bother?

As for your rationale on the JCU cert, I think that is irrelevant. I doubt recruiters are interested in hearing your various explanation of how good and intense this JCU thing is. You might as well just use the same story to convince them the online degree is the same thing, chances should be the same.

Long story short, 1 year JCU cert is hardly better than the online degree you already have. No point taking it up. 4 year China doctorate is overkill for a marketing/banking office job and the end result is likely going to be a 3k+ job at 35 years old and depleted savings and student loans. You are better off just trying to get a 2k+ job now and keep options open instead of just limiting to MNCs and civil service. Your age is against you and no point limiting your options so early when the chances of landing an offer is not high in the first place.

jesus. i thought it would be hard to find james cook uni singapore grads working for the government, just as many posters here implied, oh only nus la, think about how many fch they can hire from ntu nus, oh think about the ivy league you are competing with, oh come on, jcu paper is like your toilet paper, oh the civil service has standards.

went on linkedin, searched for alumnis, and it seems like 50% of them work for the government. i am shocked myself.

which basically tells us that 80% of posters and posts here are utter bs.

a true eureka moment hah.

Nobody is saying that JCU cannot be in civil service, they are just saying you won't be able to join at the normal degree MX13/12 degree grad level. Even an N Level grad can join the civil service. You are just seeing what you want to see and totally missing the point.

Your #1 & #6 are essentially MSS Executive/Officer positions. Your #5 says nothing other than "civil servant". Your #4 most likely got there by higher education and relevant experience in other places. Your #3 is a post doctoral researcher for christ sake, where he is now has nothing to do with his JCU bachelor degree even if he had gotten it in the past.

None of your links work and so I can only comment generally. Anyway it seems you are more interested in finding justification to study for that JCU thing, so really just go for it. There is no point seeking confirmation in an online forum anyway.

also to comment on no. 2 since i work in NTU, although I cannot access the link as well, but i am very sure he is talking about mellissa. fyi this is her profile at ntu http://www.ntu.edu.sg/tlpd/abtus/Pages/team.aspx

besides the obvious high level education listed above, melissa got a masters from jcu many years ago iirc. i think she will be super piss off if somebody is implying that she got to where she is now by getting a 1 year bachelor from jcu. this clown most likely just do a quick search on linkin and never even bother to find out the history of the individuals he quoted.

Spot on. Mellissa has a very strong background then the original poster. Besides that, she got herself accreditated with a professional status that was recongised by uni of cambridge. I think we shouldnt waste much time discussing further as we should let the poster go take a jcu and see himself. No point proving this and that for him as i read all his post i do find something quite funny. one point he said the PHD is at HK from top 50 uni. another post he says that it is at some southern china and is top 100 uni. See the point here. he most probably is just ********ting about everything trying to prove something.

Dude, there are many different kinds of degrees offered by JCU. Difference in level (bachelor, masters, phd), difference in discipline/faculty, difference in duration (full 3-4 year course vs 1 year crash course), difference in campus (aussie vs sg branch). Also have to take into account difference in relevant work experience, prior education (many have proper diploma or advanced diploma before that), industry connections etc. You can't just do a search on "jcu" and assume you will be the same as them just because you take a crash course.

To use the ntu assistant director above as example, she has many follow up and related advanced education in the areas of learning & development, many years of relevant work experience, well-established reputation in the academic field and studied a full aussie based jcu masters program on education management.

This is completely different from your case of no relevant work experience at all except teaching english in malaysia, no relevant certification (not even a proper accredited diploma) except for an online degree, no professional network in sg at all and a crash course in jcu generic bachelors. As things stand now, a mid career dipoma/nitec with a sim/kaplan/mdis/psb degree is in a better position than you.

True, i dont think ts will listen anyway since he is reacting in a 100% emotional manner and probably making stuff up as he goes along. My main reason for posting here is for other readers who are thinking of doing similar things and hopefully they can have a proper perspective instead.

okay, explain to me what is the difference between mx13 and mss executive, in terms of career and salary.

the cambridge diploma or 'profesisonal status recognised by cambridge' you refer to is just a 4 months part time diploma that you can do at kaplan for 4k sgd total.

i am just trying to find out the best course to take, either the jcu path or the phd path. just an average man trying to earn some money to start a family and live a stable life.

hong kong is in south china.

yes i understand this. which is why i am trying to further studies to improve my situation and land a stable job to start a family.

i do have an accredited diploma called the btec higher national diploma done online but of course, as with all things in singapore, you will tell me it is not recognised.

so i am trying to go on campus to do some studies.

do you know that there is a different in obtaining a certification at uni of cambridge and at kaplan? oh gosh! My advice is take none and go back to take a recongised diploma course. if you can state the HK uni name, we can at least see how possible it is for you

anything can be accredited. today i open a school and provide online course i can also say that it is accreditated because it is link back to the main school and registered with the country. However, the uni i open is not even of any top 100 uni in the world, not to mention it being a well-known one. sees it? the main issue is you need to see which school isit from and how reputable it is in the world? you dont see prestigious university have online degree right? Not only singapore dont recongise it, if you go US, UK, Aussie..i think it dont worth much too.

What's your interest? So far all I am reading is you want to get an office job in banking or marketing.

Just go get a job related to your interest and then upgrade in areas that are relevant to your chosen career. Best is if your attitude and capabilities are demonstrated, some companies even willing to sponsor further education.

I agree with the rest of the posters here that you shouldn't waste time pursuing dubious certificates. It is better to gain proper work experience followed by relevant education that actually helps, not just buying degree for degree sake.

You already made the mistake of doing online diplomas and degrees which in the end lead to nothing and have to run road to Malaysia to teach English.

In Singapore most people peak their careers in late 30s or 40, you don't really have a lot of time to waste before the age factor sets in.

fyi, master trainer is not a dip course. It is a professional certification after you attended the required courses and pass it. Before that, you have to first meet the entry requirement for the courses, for instance, academic wise and work experience. Not any dick or henry can just pay 4k to get a professional status certification, if it is so easy, everyone would have got it.

Another issue is for those that got into govt, it is definitely having a proper dip courses or advanced and on top of it having true accreditated certification and relevant network to back them up. looking at singapore now when there is a large pool of people having proper academic certification, you honestly dont stand much chance as a SIM, kaplan full time degree grad will have more chance to land a job then you.

If you are serious about it, i suggest you either go back sg and take a dip course or you see if you can get into at least a SIM. it can land you an office job in the end at least if you do well, salary may not hit 3k if they sees you as a fresh grad. As for teaching, you can join np early childhood dip course, at least start somewhere right now then go headwired thru out. a jcu degree wont land you a teaching job.

not getting the logic. so ts realise that his online diploma & degree are useless in sg and the solution to all this is to get another short time degree from a uni that is even lower standing than sim???

Why not drive Uber?

Here's how to get rich in Singapore

1. Buy cheap HDB BTO flat after getting married.
2. Pay off the mortgage.
3. Rent out whole flat.
4. Retire in Malaysia (live in condo and drive car).

Here is JCU's GES: s://.jcu.edu.sg/student-life/student-support-services/careers-services/graduate-employment-survey

2% work in government.

12% work in education. Please take note that working as a private tuition teacher also counts as working in education.

Average salary is 2k to 3k.

There. That's your future.

there are many prestigious universities with online degrees. ucl, imperial, manchester, liverpool, new york university, university california berkeley, durham, usc, edinburgh, even oxford have distance courses with some seminar requirements, etc.

i know my degree is not worth much which is why i am furthering my studies.


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Mellissa is an Accredited Master Trainer certified by the University of Cambridge for their International Diploma for Teachers and Trainer programmes.

umm...it simply means mellissa completed the int dip for teachers and trainer by uni of cambridge. this is a part time 4 months 4k course that anyone can do, even if you are psle. even a celta or delta may be better than this.

mellissa has a masters in education. well, i can get that with a year's of hard work in sg as well....masters of education are the easiest courses to get in.

lastly she has experience in teaching blah blah...i have tons of experience in teaching as well....what i don't have is her director work experience in a private school...but even that is not hard to get with a few years of work exp in my belt back in sg.

this is my current line of work, if i wanted to stay in this line like mellissa, i can get to mellissa's level within a decade, but what for, these training guys are earning 3-4k max most of them.

which is why i am getting out of it rather than going down the bunny hole.


Mellissa Callendre Tawin
Senior Assistant Director (Pedagogical Practice)

Mellissa is an Accredited Master Trainer certified by the University of Cambridge for their International Diploma for Teachers and Trainer programmes. She also holds a Master in Education Management (MEd. Leadership) and was the Director of the School of Languages and Foundation Studies at a leading Private Education Institution in Singapore. At TLPD, Mellissa provides resources, support and consultation on Academic Integrity and administration of the NTU’s online Academic Integrity modules for Undergraduates. She manages the overall operations and publicity of NTU’s Faculty Development System (FDS) that provides faculty development workshops and programmes, in addition to co-leading, organising and promotion of events via NTU’s Annual Learning and Teaching conference and seminars, and Distinguished Speakers’ Series.

not too bad actually. 50% of graduates are foreigners in the first place, and the average pay is like 2-3k, same as sim uol etc. nus fresh grads are only getting around 3k anyway. something like 10 or 20 percent in finance.

within a few years, 3-5k which is my target is quite easily within reach.

much better than some moronic advice to go back to poly spend 5 years working a dip part time. i mean like, i got a degree, i can get into any master courses, i can even take the a levels easily the papers are easy i saw them, yet some guy is saying go back to poly for 1.6k.

damn i am already earning 2-3k per month now, in sgd, in a country with lower cost of living.:rolleyes: