by the way, this int dip for teachers and trainer by uni of cambridge is offered by many schools even kaplan signapore. this is a part time 4 months 4k course that anyone can do, even if you are psle. even a celta or delta may be better than this. :rolleyes:

gimme a break man. i work in a uni with professors and lecturers. been in over dozens of schools, be it private or public. i know almost every salary and certification in this industry.

here is your cambridge international diploma aka accredited by cambridge. Cambridge International Diploma for Teachers and Trainers - Kaplan Professional - Kaplan Professional

wouldnt even put it as equal to a delta, just equal to a tefl. a grad cert of higher edu would be better than this. masters in edu, yes, well done on that. but that is just 1 year away from me anyway.

maybe i got to drink some beer, and continue down this rabbit hole, do a masters and acta concurrently, and continue my monkey dancing career, and find myself in mellissa's shoe 10 years later earning 3-4k sgd in ntu stuck at this level for life.

since i already got years of exp here, and a certificate. might as well let titanic sink a little deeper and jump deeper into this industry of eternal low wages.

at least can retire with some cpf right? teacher sounds good right?

the key is more beer and less reality.

ya la thats why i am kan chiong now. i am not wasting time buying dubious certificates, i am thinking of studying in james cook on campus for a bachelors (and then i will throw away my online one). or doing a phd in a good university.

or alternatively doing a masters in notts malaysia or monash malaysia or in sim or another bachelors in kaplan whatever.

my interest is making money so i can get married soon, preferably in banking back office or oil and gas.

been applying for banking jobs no reply. oil and gas havent tried. only got pesky insurance agents trying to scam me.

dont wanna do a finance degree i am not a quant guy. so maybe try a marketing degree from jcu or somewhere and pray i can find a back office banking job or work in marketing in a bank or oil and gas loh.

then find girlfriend, get married, live stable life loh. earn 3-5k each month, have a happy time after work, weekends go to the park.

that is my dream in life loh.

if any bright towkays, nus fch, ntu big 4 tax president, bcg consultant reading this, give xiao di some ideas with ur experience how i can change my life la.

xiao di is not stupid one, results in school good, just now lack experience on how to get to where i want in life.

thanks hor, ntu nus fch scholars, bcg consultants, big partner, etc.

gam xia gam xia.

door jie door jie.

terlimakase.

sound more like a pimple face teenager...

anything counted as prestigious is top 100 in world actually. and well, i think no point everyone talking or giving you advice. As you mentioned, you worked with uni prof so well and i guess they are the best to guide you and not peasants like us. Also since you were able to list out so many online degree and why are you pursuing JCU rather then the one you claimed oxford has it?

Most imptly, i can see that you just wish people to support that online degree are worth it and pursing a masters or phd in JCU is equally good. From all the post that i read and although majority suggested that you should go back poly and get a full campus cert but i doubt you wouldnt one to listen and looking at how swallow you think, i can fully understand why you took up online degrees in the beginning - you just want things fast.

Look boy, you have failed once and didnt you realise some useless cert will not do you well? obviously you dont need any fch pr scholar to give you advice because none of them even think of JCU in the first place and the people they worked with most probably are people with proper certs.

I think it is better for you to pursue what you want as it is obvious you are not someone who take in people words. today im in the working world and im telling you the fact in sg and you might not even believe it. i think you better stay in malaysia.

i dont think you didnt got it right. cambridge education doesnt mean came from uni of cambridge or certified by cambridge? well if you think you can be in mellissa's shoe then go ahead and get a JCU degree. no point arguing over here listing you are smart actually. if you were, you wouldnt have choose this route for godsake. lastly, i hope JCU can get you a career in teaching in sg. I am from the educational side and i didnt really see someone with weird degree or online degree unless you were saying some FT from india or so. Thank You.

i admitted my online degree was a mistake. i listed those online degrees mainly to reply to someone who said prestigious universities don't offer them. i am not endorsing online degrees, in contrast, i am choosing to go back on campus to study for either a phd or a bachelors/masters.

jcu is not the best school but i have no money to go to aus or uk to do 3 years etc on campus.

going to poly is pretty fluffy. i will be 34 with a poly diploma even if i study full time, what good will that do for me?? time wise, income wise, in terms of the content...

i already have a bachelors and have access to master level courses or bachelors courses, might as well do from bachelors or masters or phd. even sim uol graduate entry bachelors degrees are only 2 years part time.

moe teachers? no. is mellissa an moe teacher? no. she is a trainer...i.e. private teacher...

if you have any good suggestions on how too turn my life around, please let me know. please don't say go to poly or ite...thanks.

blah blah i'm so smart and well connected to professors. blah blah you all don't know anything about education, i know best. blah blah melissa is just a pte trainer who got a cert from kaplan for 4k.

talk big online, but in real life just a loser who sends out job applications & cannot even get 1 reply, end up with a rubbish cert making 2k teaching in malaysia at 31.

sure everyone is dumb, u the smartest loh. just go buy that jcu cert and stop wasting time here.

If you are really half as smart and well connected as you say, you wouldn't be in a situation that is even worse than a typical experienced NITEC educated grad at your age.

I'm not sure what you are hoping to achieve here. You put down anyone that doesn't agree with you as uninformed and at the same time put out juvenile requests for people to teach you how to make money.

I manage a small team of technicians and support coordinators at work. Most are NITEC or diploma holders around your age. I would without hesitation hire them over someone without any useful experience like you who has only a bunch of useless online and crash course degrees to show for.

Are you naive enough to think you can just lepak in Malaysia then pay a cert jump right back in and get a higher pay than a typical NITEC or diploma holder who has slowly accumulated experience and constantly upgraded himself?

sorry don't mean to come across that way. i meant it in a light hearted manner, especially when people talk about the cambridge diploma in international training as if it is some kind of holy grail.

how much do most nitec or diploma holders my age make?

i do not think i am better than them, if they have been upgrading then i guess they should be degreed or masters now? or hold certs lik ccna etc?

then they make more money than me, that's fine. look there are diploma guys in banks with years of relevant experience earning 10k or whatever my age. that's fine.

i am just looking for my own life, and getting ideas about which is the right decision. i just hope to make 2-3k plus starting out, then gain experience and go to 3-5 after some time and start a faimly.

i respect everyone and help everyone. we are all just trying to make a living and support out families here/

well, the poster never did say mellissa is an moe teacher. she is a master trainer holding a professional certification that i doubt it is the same as kaplan or whatever 4k course you think it is. As she is able to get a job in NTU and hold a Senior AD post , this already explained she definitely have a strong background and some useful academic qualification if not i doubt NTU will even let her in.

Yes you hold a "prestigious accred." bachelors degree which was done online and i didn't even know uol part time degree was just 2 years which makes me wonder why people study 3-4 years full time.

Come let me guide you like how you wish. Go JCU and complete your masters. That's good enough then go PHD if possible. you will have a wonderful career as you wish. period.

jiaklatliao
 

I suggest you be Uber driver or a bus captain.

Don't waste time into study anymore as it is leading you nowhere.

Ya. recently newspaper said that plus OT can reach 3k or slightly more. This totally matches the range he wants. my bro was even older then you and i'm just a year younger then you. My bro has same expectation as you and in his mid 30s he also go back to sch just managed to complete his part-time dip in poly and now starting a part-time degree in SIM. after he complete his 4 years part time, he will be in his 40s and he don't mind because he knew he had started wrong initially and wanted to start things right. i admired him eventhou he will end up with just a sim degree but he never give up and willing to go the "correct" path. he is single by the way.

Do you know why people encouraged you to go back poly and start again and not get a JCU cert? so what your bachelor is accessible for master. can you get a masters or phd entry in a more prestigious uni then JCU and not some online school? The ans is obviously no. The obvious reason why so many people wanted you to go get a proper dip from poly and go back way upwards is because when face retrenchment, you still have a chance to survive in this harsh world and another reason is at least they still can let you have chances to go in civil service which from there you can go take part-time degree from local uni or SIM..

so what you obtained a master degree or phd from JCU? it is useless anyway because most places actually see your degree first. And also, obtaining a masters or phd is a not big deal. it is not useful anyway. Now that you made a wrong move in getting a degree. the only way to make it right is either you start a proper dip course or that if possible enrol yourself in SIM degree again rather then JCU.

actually i really don't mind but i dont even have a dirvers license.

well, like i say, everyone can be a master trainer, including me and the cambridge diploma is just a 4 months part time 4k course at kaplan.

mellisa has done well to get her bach and masters in edu and of course, become a director in a private school. those are her true assets not some master trainer cert.

how much is melissa's pay at ntu? ntu is famous for low pay and likewise for the training industry.

uol degrees have a graduate entry option that allows people with degrees to complete them within 2 years.

ya i really thinking of doing a bach and masters within 2-3 years. then work.

How sure are you that her master trainer certification that was certified by uni of cambridge is the same as the one you think that is 4 months part time 4k course? if you cant even understand what is the use of the master trainer cert then you are in no position to talk like you know. a master trainer cert is to certified herself, just like others who got a professional engineer certification. IT IS HER ASSET.

NTU although is a self manage uni in sg but it is not some dick and henry private school like what you think it is. How well is mellisa pay no one knows but for sure it is not 3-5k. yes NTU is famous for low pay so is other edu industry in sg but she can be pay higher then what you think actually.

No one wants to waste time talking to useless people like you who claim smart and claim this claim that. if JCU works for you and you insisted, then go ahead dont need waste time convince others, dont end up still cant get a reply from a job then kpkb and seek stupid advice again.

thanks you make a lot of sense with respect to retrenchment and civil service. the only issue is my age, if i take a poly dip full time, i will be 34 when i grad, part time, i will be 36. it is kind of pointless by then. if i wanna do a degree, then i will be 40 or so when i grad, what is the income difference at that age?

as for getting into good schools, i have been offered places for bach and masters and phds.

right now, on my desk, i have an offer letter to do a phd from a top 50 uni, and offer to do masters or bach from jcu/curtin. i have been shortlisted by a local uni for masters/phd as well. talked to consultants sent them my certs, liverpool, nottingham malaysia, monash malaysia, birmingham sim are all no problems. doing masters at a top 100 unis is not a big problem really. going to jcu is due to money reasons, or else, i probably can enter a g8 in aus or a russell group in uk. which once again makes doing a poly dip completely futile.

if i do do a masters in a top 100 uni, with an online degree still, what are my propsects of getting a job in singapore?

One way of testing all your assumptions is for you to take private A levels.

Since you have already declared it is very easy, you should have no issues getting all As and going to NUS within one year.

Mai tu liao.

Dont be a troller la. obviously from what you list it is all nonsense. can you name the school that you a phd from what top 50? bs! liverpool, nottingham malaysia, monash malaysia, birmingham sim top 100? sorry distance learning and not getting the same cert from the school back in uk doesnt put you to be so called top 100 uni. i have degree from UK campus and sorry, they dont take in what online degree for master of phd. if you are just trolling, pls save the space for some other good qns. the end.

he already have problems understanding the differences between cambridge dip and certification recongised or even issued by by uni of cambridge liao. and what nottingham malaysia, monash malaysia, birmingham sim top 100 liao. you think he can make it meh!

why u so obsessed with melissa? i quote from her profile:

Mellissa is an Accredited Master Trainer certified by the University of Cambridge for their International Diploma for Teachers and Trainer programmes.

go google 'cambridge International Diploma for Teachers and Trainer '.

Cambridge International Diploma for Teachers and Trainers - Kaplan Professional - Kaplan Professional

kaplan does offer that course, 4 months part time, 4k sgd.

she has a masters, bach and experience yes, kudos to her. but u keep saying her master trainer is certified by cambridge is some big deal :confused:

her masters and experience is a 'big deal' though.

i dont really wanna name it (both the foreign and local schools) for obvious reasons (scary people like you la). if u believe i am lying then so be it loh.

my question is, if i get a top 100 masters/phd plus my online degree what is my employment prospects like.

Those you mentioned is not considered top 100 unless end of the day you took the same cert (every wording the same with no title saying malaysia or sim) back as the main school. if not i dont see it as a prospect. actually i don't care how many letters you have on your table because i doubt your credibility.

with distance learning like how you do and those fch online degree, i wont tell you my advice but i can say hard to land you a job. even if it lands, you probably will get 2.5k because all those online and whatever cert will highly not take into consideration. SIM grad will be more competitive then you. landing a job first then talk about money.

thought about that as well. a levels registrations open now. issue is i only got 6 months to study, and i need to find a school in singapore, pay them 10k to prepare me. singpaore's syllabus is different from the uk's hard to find textbooks here.

i got a biz degree, so i looked at accounting, business studies, economics etc. easy enough. not sure about a but with some prep c/b should be possible.

i will have to give up all my offers for this year and just dive into a levels.

but then, even if i get into nus, i will be out of it at 35-36, a little pointless. time is the issue here. go to jcu/curtin, out by 31-32, work for 4 years by then, maybe even a masters in the mix.

you really need to do some understanding first. Not people are obsessed with mellissa. the point is you think her cert is the same as the kaplan one. MasterTrainer certified by the University of Cambridge for their International Diploma for Teachers and Trainer programmes doesn't even mean cambridge dip blah blah. instead, you should go google uni of cambridge sch website and see under the school which other sch they accredited to. also the kaplan website didint state it is certified by university of cambridge. it just put cambridge dip and obviously, it is not talking about the same uni of cambridge. like people saying, you definitely have difficulty in understanding words.

if you can get the same cert as those in the main school, maybe you will have some chance. if your cert state what malaysia, sim, etc. then pls stop saying it is top 100 because it is not. employment prospect is - they will hire someone with proper dip courses although holding a SIM cert grad then you. you can just stay in malaysia. full stop.

That is why everyone is telling him to go to poly, except for another guy who just wants him to go and fail his A levels badly so that he know how stupid he really is.

With his level of English comprehension, he obviously have problems passing even the O levels now. He might be a teacher, but he only fit to teach in Malaysia, where their first language is not English.

I figured out what he mean by top 100 unis liao. He means out of all the online-only degrees subset, the ones he is considering is in the top 100.

Nvm that no one recognises online degrees. He is just repeating his old mistakes and hoping for a different result.

malaysia monash and nottingham certs are the same, they are campuses after all in the same university. i seen the certs from the consultants.

i would prefer to go to aus or uk but of course money is the issue. looking at 40k vs maybe 80k.

sim grads are more competitive yes, that is the reason i am studying further.

i've got 3 choices.

1. online bachelors + decent masters
2. do a jcu bachelors (dont use online bachelors) and find work and maybe do a masters.
3. do a phd + online bachelors

hahahha. spot on la! Cambridge is an educational standard level. Singapore school also follow cambridge level but is our O/A level issued by cambridge? obviously no right!

all my choices are on campus degrees. a levels, maybe one or two subjects tough, seen past year papers, should be okay.

o levels? actually mine was l1r5 6points after cca. english was a. gre score was 162 verbal reasoning.

hmm yeah maybe give it a try la hor? no point going back to dip, no time.

2.5k salary, i am quite happy with that if it is the right job actually.

troller.L1R5 6 points? hahahhaa. english A? hahahhaha. can't even differentiate properly. stop your nonsense la.

hello all the good heart people who gave him advices. let's put a stop here. can see he is a troller. no point wasting time to advice as he don't need it. cheers.

guys like you have very very weird responses. with respect to the cambridge diploma, then my courses, then even my o levels. maybe anime fans? :p

a few helpful insights from a few kind people. thank you. just a young man seeking wisdom from the wise. \

Agree.

This idiot is just repeating the same old pattern for 8 pages
1) Act humble & self depreciating to ask for advice
2) Many people try their best to answer
3) Idiot retaliates and insinuates that everyone is either dumb, don't understand, cannot make it, except for his stellar self.
4) Idiot insist he is smart and his degrees are fantastic
5) Then again act humble to ask for advice

I find it ironic that a 2k earning clown teaching in Malaysia is trying to put down a NTU Senior AD's education and salary.

he is not fit to be melissa's admin assistant esp with the poor english comprehension and yaya papaya attitude. shameless...

Quote from her profile again:

Mellissa is an Accredited Master Trainer certified by the University of Cambridge for their International Diploma for Teachers and Trainer programmes.

She does not just have an "International Diploma for Teachers and Trainer".

She is the person who teaches and trains the people taking the "International Diploma for Teachers and Trainer" programme.

So if you pay 4k and go to Kaplan, the person who teaches you is the Accredited Master Trainer.

Even after you graduate from the programme, you are still not at her level.

Your English comprehension is obviously poor. If you really get A for English, it must be a long time ago, and staying in Malaysia obviously made you stupid.

You got it right! She is the master trainer for people taking the "international diploma programme" and not what this jialakliao thinks she owns a Cambridge dip for international teaching blah blah. You can't pay a 4k course in kaplan to get what she got. She is certified by University of Cambridge! I wonder how isit difficult for this jialakliao to understand. His comprehension is so damn poor still got the cheek to say what's the big deal of her being a master trainer. He keep insist that phrase meaning she owns a Cambridge dip which is equal to what kaplan provide. Oh gosh! He can't even distinguish that phrase man! He is obviously stupid

Dear ts,

You can try macdonalds, kfc, sheng siong packer or ntuc shelf stacker?
I last heard bengawan solo at toa payoh is hiring a cashier.

If all else fails, you can always go to bedok reservoir.

oh you are actually right, now that i read it again. kudos to you.

how much $ does mellissa makes? she is an ad? really?thats like 8k or so in ntu?

wow maybe i am having second thoughts about changing industry if that is true. might as well get a masters in edu and plow down this road being a trainer for some wda courses, work in private schools, then hopefully join ntu do policy work etc.:p