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Unregistered 11-05-2023 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Juann (Post 244310)
The job was a contract job for 2years. But I left quite early like 2-3months after joined since I feel the job was not a right fit for me.

Really dunno what to do. I am in Science field and only experience working in laboratory in my entire career. Don't ask me go to research bcz this area also not my liking. Thinking of switch career but don't know what is the best for me.

But why? How do you determine its not a right fit in 3 months? Seems you are not really desperate. Fyi no such thing as dream job. All job has pros and cons.

Unregistered 11-05-2023 10:32 AM

Left my previous job due to its intensity of workload in early Jan this year, with a plan to work with a friend but sadly it didn't work out.

Now jobless and having been applying for jobs but no good news so far. Sadly I find myself still applying to the same industry job scope and even have a feeling of regret leaving my previous job. Mixed feeling -.-

Unregistered 23-05-2023 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 248119)
Left my previous job due to its intensity of workload in early Jan this year, with a plan to work with a friend but sadly it didn't work out.

Now jobless and having been applying for jobs but no good news so far. Sadly I find myself still applying to the same industry job scope and even have a feeling of regret leaving my previous job. Mixed feeling -.-

It is very common to feel like this. The usual advice is always leave a job for another job in place. The mistake decision you made is leaving a paying job for another unconfirmed 'green pasture'. What is done cannot be undone. Just keep looking for another job.

Unregistered 23-05-2023 06:03 PM

tmr marks 1 year that I have been jobless. graduated from sim uol, gotten my last offer at 3k. Left the job after 1 year, went looking for new job, only gotten offers at ard 3.2k, felt humiliating so I did not take up the offer. Before I know it, I hit the 1 year jobless mark.

Unregistered 23-05-2023 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 248861)
tmr marks 1 year that I have been jobless. graduated from sim uol, gotten my last offer at 3k. Left the job after 1 year, went looking for new job, only gotten offers at ard 3.2k, felt humiliating so I did not take up the offer. Before I know it, I hit the 1 year jobless mark.

Jiayou bro, just keep trying :)

Unregistered 23-05-2023 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 248861)
tmr marks 1 year that I have been jobless. graduated from sim uol, gotten my last offer at 3k. Left the job after 1 year, went looking for new job, only gotten offers at ard 3.2k, felt humiliating so I did not take up the offer. Before I know it, I hit the 1 year jobless mark.

Never leave without securing a job first.

Unregistered 23-05-2023 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 248861)
tmr marks 1 year that I have been jobless. graduated from sim uol, gotten my last offer at 3k. Left the job after 1 year, went looking for new job, only gotten offers at ard 3.2k, felt humiliating so I did not take up the offer. Before I know it, I hit the 1 year jobless mark.


Which company/industry is this? And how do u pass the time?

Unregistered 24-05-2023 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 248876)
Which company/industry is this? And how do u pass the time?

marketing, play games lo and live off savings.

Unregistered 24-05-2023 03:52 PM

2 years
 
I was jobless for 2yrs, 2018-2020.
Left my job in fundraising. Was too tired doing fundraising for charitable cause.

I was 40+.

Thought I would find a new job easily, but turn out to be damn hard.

Unregistered 24-05-2023 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 248912)
I was jobless for 2yrs, 2018-2020.
Left my job in fundraising. Was too tired doing fundraising for charitable cause.

I was 40+.

Thought I would find a new job easily, but turn out to be damn hard.

Once above 40 it will get very challenging to get a new job. More so you have been jobless for 2 months

Unregistered 24-05-2023 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 248900)
marketing, play games lo and live off savings.

Wah you must have alot of savings? $100k?

Unregistered 24-05-2023 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 248920)
Once above 40 it will get very challenging to get a new job. More so you have been jobless for 2 months

hes been jobless for 2 years not 2 months u dumb fk

"Once above 40 it will get very challenging to get a new job."

says who and based on what data?

what a dumb fk, make up ******** + cannot differentiate 2 years vs 2 months

jialat

Unregistered 25-05-2023 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 248912)
I was jobless for 2yrs, 2018-2020.
Left my job in fundraising. Was too tired doing fundraising for charitable cause.

I was 40+.

Thought I would find a new job easily, but turn out to be damn hard.

What makes you think you can find a job easily ? You aware you 40s already right ? Tired so you quit without a job ?

Unregistered 25-05-2023 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 248861)
tmr marks 1 year that I have been jobless. graduated from sim uol, gotten my last offer at 3k. Left the job after 1 year, went looking for new job, only gotten offers at ard 3.2k, felt humiliating so I did not take up the offer. Before I know it, I hit the 1 year jobless mark.

Have you learnt your lesson ? How much you have lost for this 1 year jobless period.

If you have taken up the job, $3.2 k x 12 mths = $38,400 maybe plus some bonus.

This $38 k is the amt earned or maybe more but you choose to avoid 'humiliation' so you earned $0.

Is it worth it ? So much for looking for an imaginery $10 k or so job. Happy waiting.

Unregistered 26-05-2023 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 248963)
Have you learnt your lesson ? How much you have lost for this 1 year jobless period.

If you have taken up the job, $3.2 k x 12 mths = $38,400 maybe plus some bonus.

This $38 k is the amt earned or maybe more but you choose to avoid 'humiliation' so you earned $0.

Is it worth it ? So much for looking for an imaginery $10 k or so job. Happy waiting.

dignity is the most important thing. Life means little if u live like a mindless slave.

Unregistered 27-05-2023 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 248979)
dignity is the most important thing. Life means little if u live like a mindless slave.

Spoken by someone who has never known poverty. There is no dignity in poverty.
I knew a guy in 2019 who threw his resignation letter two months before the covid situation hit. He was not happy with the poor review he got from the boss, and the increased supervision the managers were giving him. He has two kids and was in his late forties. It really ****ed him up. During covid, the only job he could get is the SG gov created gig jobs. He was let go after the covid situation died down. Jumping from gig job to gig job. It is 2023 and I just heard last month he is still trying to get back into our industry. There is already a four-year gap, and no one in the industry will hire him in his 50s. We are laughing at him and used him as a cautionary tale about pride. He went from a 5 digit monthly salary to living from hand to mouth with a freaking family to bring up.

Unregistered 27-05-2023 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 249043)
Spoken by someone who has never known poverty. There is no dignity in poverty.
I knew a guy in 2019 who threw his resignation letter two months before the covid situation hit. He was not happy with the poor review he got from the boss, and the increased supervision the managers were giving him. He has two kids and was in his late forties. It really ****ed him up. During covid, the only job he could get is the SG gov created gig jobs. He was let go after the covid situation died down. Jumping from gig job to gig job. It is 2023 and I just heard last month he is still trying to get back into our industry. There is already a four-year gap, and no one in the industry will hire him in his 50s. We are laughing at him and used him as a cautionary tale about pride. He went from a 5 digit monthly salary to living from hand to mouth with a freaking family to bring up.

how pathetic

life of a typical singaporean in singapore

other people's misfortune = funny to u

so cringe

Unregistered 27-05-2023 08:41 PM

does that include selling your soul to the devil?

Unregistered 27-05-2023 09:44 PM

You are already speaking english to earn a living. No harm doing more to be respected in society

Unregistered 28-05-2023 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 249043)
Spoken by someone who has never known poverty. There is no dignity in poverty.
I knew a guy in 2019 who threw his resignation letter two months before the covid situation hit. He was not happy with the poor review he got from the boss, and the increased supervision the managers were giving him. He has two kids and was in his late forties. It really ****ed him up. During covid, the only job he could get is the SG gov created gig jobs. He was let go after the covid situation died down. Jumping from gig job to gig job. It is 2023 and I just heard last month he is still trying to get back into our industry. There is already a four-year gap, and no one in the industry will hire him in his 50s. We are laughing at him and used him as a cautionary tale about pride. He went from a 5 digit monthly salary to living from hand to mouth with a freaking family to bring up.

I respect this guy who is willing to quit, despite the typical boomer mentality that one must secure a job before leaving. Nowadays youngsters are much more willing to quit without a next job, prioritising mental health etc. nothing wrong with that.

Unregistered 28-05-2023 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 248923)
hes been jobless for 2 years not 2 months u dumb fk

"Once above 40 it will get very challenging to get a new job."

says who and based on what data?

what a dumb fk, make up ******** + cannot differentiate 2 years vs 2 months

jialat

Based on the fact that you are in this thread obviously jobless as well. Burn@

Unregistered 28-05-2023 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 249043)
Spoken by someone who has never known poverty. There is no dignity in poverty.
I knew a guy in 2019 who threw his resignation letter two months before the covid situation hit. He was not happy with the poor review he got from the boss, and the increased supervision the managers were giving him. He has two kids and was in his late forties. It really ****ed him up. During covid, the only job he could get is the SG gov created gig jobs. He was let go after the covid situation died down. Jumping from gig job to gig job. It is 2023 and I just heard last month he is still trying to get back into our industry. There is already a four-year gap, and no one in the industry will hire him in his 50s. We are laughing at him and used him as a cautionary tale about pride. He went from a 5 digit monthly salary to living from hand to mouth with a freaking family to bring up.

I know several guys in their 30s like that as well. Now most are doing grab driver full time.

Unregistered 29-05-2023 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 249043)
Spoken by someone who has never known poverty. There is no dignity in poverty.
I knew a guy in 2019 who threw his resignation letter two months before the covid situation hit. He was not happy with the poor review he got from the boss, and the increased supervision the managers were giving him. He has two kids and was in his late forties. It really ****ed him up. During covid, the only job he could get is the SG gov created gig jobs. He was let go after the covid situation died down. Jumping from gig job to gig job. It is 2023 and I just heard last month he is still trying to get back into our industry. There is already a four-year gap, and no one in the industry will hire him in his 50s. We are laughing at him and used him as a cautionary tale about pride. He went from a 5 digit monthly salary to living from hand to mouth with a freaking family to bring up.

Hope you don't suay in another way and get laughed at by other ppl. Remember you laughed at other people's misfortune, you may get your own karma oneday in another way. And oh, please allow ppl to use your example as cautionary tale too.

Unregistered 29-05-2023 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 249095)
I know several guys in their 30s like that as well. Now most are doing grab driver full time.

They lazy to find job.

Unregistered 29-05-2023 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 248979)
dignity is the most important thing. Life means little if u live like a mindless slave.

Your post already suggests you already mindless (aka brainless) so you got dignity or not there is no difference.

Unregistered 29-05-2023 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 249085)
I respect this guy who is willing to quit, despite the typical boomer mentality that one must secure a job before leaving. Nowadays youngsters are much more willing to quit without a next job, prioritising mental health etc. nothing wrong with that.

Nothing to do with boomer or not boomer mentality.

Youngsters quit without a job cos they are young and still live off their parents. Anything happens they can go home and cry for more pocket money no worries.

We are talking about ppl with families and kids to feed.

Unregistered 29-05-2023 07:51 PM

Sighhhhhhh

Unregistered 30-05-2023 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 249167)
They lazy to find job.

Lazy to find job, picky not willing to settle for lower salary and restart. End up drive grab for long time no chance to go back corporate jobs. Lastly blame gov, blame PAP, blame society, blame FT, blame everyone but himself. Sounds familiar...

Unregistered 14-06-2023 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 249166)
Hope you don't suay in another way and get laughed at by other ppl. Remember you laughed at other people's misfortune, you may get your own karma oneday in another way. And oh, please allow ppl to use your example as cautionary tale too.

Been around this planet long enough to know karma is the last resort of the weak. Life is not a TV show. Bad ppl don't get punished in real life, they get paid insanely well. In fact, to survive and thrive in the corporate setting, people with psychopathic tendencies tend to climb to the top. If you see someone you don't like fall down, it is not "karma". It is just a coincidence. Why do you think ppl laughed at the fool who quit out of pride? Because, he actually thinks that he can climb back on the ladder easily. To get on the same position on the ladder in another company, you are blocking someone else. It is a bloody cutthroat world.

What are the learning points of this cautionary tale?
- Don't quit without securing another job.
- Endure if your financial position is not healthy yet.
- If you are out of the industry for 4 years, it is very difficult to climb back up the same ladder. SG is very small, work long enough, most ppl know or seen each other. If your peers are laughing at you, look for another ladder, you are done in the industry.
- If you are in your 40s and 50s, think very carefully before quiting. Especially if you are paid 5 digits. Not easy to find another company willing to pay that unless you can make money rain. Let alone, this guy was underperforming in his current company. Word gets out. SG is very small. My nickname from 1 company followed me into multiple companies for 7 years.
- All your finances should be in order before you hit 50.
- Prepare for ppl to laugh at your self-inflicted misfortune.

Unregistered 22-06-2023 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 249981)
Been around this planet long enough to know karma is the last resort of the weak. Life is not a TV show. Bad ppl don't get punished in real life, they get paid insanely well. In fact, to survive and thrive in the corporate setting, people with psychopathic tendencies tend to climb to the top. If you see someone you don't like fall down, it is not "karma". It is just a coincidence. Why do you think ppl laughed at the fool who quit out of pride? Because, he actually thinks that he can climb back on the ladder easily. To get on the same position on the ladder in another company, you are blocking someone else. It is a bloody cutthroat world.

What are the learning points of this cautionary tale?
- Don't quit without securing another job.
- Endure if your financial position is not healthy yet.
- If you are out of the industry for 4 years, it is very difficult to climb back up the same ladder. SG is very small, work long enough, most ppl know or seen each other. If your peers are laughing at you, look for another ladder, you are done in the industry.
- If you are in your 40s and 50s, think very carefully before quiting. Especially if you are paid 5 digits. Not easy to find another company willing to pay that unless you can make money rain. Let alone, this guy was underperforming in his current company. Word gets out. SG is very small. My nickname from 1 company followed me into multiple companies for 7 years.
- All your finances should be in order before you hit 50.
- Prepare for ppl to laugh at your self-inflicted misfortune.

I am in my late 40s, just tested water to see my market value. Sent out several resume to diff companies. No replies. Luckily I still got my current job. No joke. Imagine I rage quit. What will happen.

Unregistered 24-06-2023 02:00 AM

raged quit 8 months ago now very regretful.

have a mother with dementia that needs to take care of.

Thinking should I go geylang and sell now that covid is over.

what u guys think?

Unregistered 24-06-2023 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 250482)
raged quit 8 months ago now very regretful.

have a mother with dementia that needs to take care of.

Thinking should I go geylang and sell now that covid is over.

what u guys think?

If u are at least a 7, go do OF la.

Unregistered 26-06-2023 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 249981)
Been around this planet long enough to know karma is the last resort of the weak. Life is not a TV show. Bad ppl don't get punished in real life, they get paid insanely well. In fact, to survive and thrive in the corporate setting, people with psychopathic tendencies tend to climb to the top. If you see someone you don't like fall down, it is not "karma". It is just a coincidence. Why do you think ppl laughed at the fool who quit out of pride? Because, he actually thinks that he can climb back on the ladder easily. To get on the same position on the ladder in another company, you are blocking someone else. It is a bloody cutthroat world.

What are the learning points of this cautionary tale?
- Don't quit without securing another job.
- Endure if your financial position is not healthy yet.
- If you are out of the industry for 4 years, it is very difficult to climb back up the same ladder. SG is very small, work long enough, most ppl know or seen each other. If your peers are laughing at you, look for another ladder, you are done in the industry.
- If you are in your 40s and 50s, think very carefully before quiting. Especially if you are paid 5 digits. Not easy to find another company willing to pay that unless you can make money rain. Let alone, this guy was underperforming in his current company. Word gets out. SG is very small. My nickname from 1 company followed me into multiple companies for 7 years.
- All your finances should be in order before you hit 50.
- Prepare for ppl to laugh at your self-inflicted misfortune.

Ur nickname - talk rubbish? Haha

Unregistered 26-06-2023 02:15 PM

Real life scenario
 
Dont be afraid to quit and go to war. Ignore anyone who tells you otherwise. You will be letting your parents who raised you down by being easily bullied.

If u dont like someone in office or that particular person offended you, Dont be afraid to escalate to your superior and HR of course. Even if u think nothing happens, i'm sure the reputation and corporate image of that person is ruined. Make sure that you have value in the company so that your departure will cause an impact, this will further ruin the reputation of your enemy. Go on glassdoor and post a negative review on work place harrassment, this will further impact the hiring of the company which the HR will pay the price when they can't find new staff.

I did it once. AND IT FELT GOOD! my enemy from so aggressive became a mouse almost instantly once she knew my true potential in escalation email. Moreover, I went around office to spread what happened and people secretly judged her. Once you image is ruined, its a hard to recover. She had to put in extra effect to clear that negative image by being exceptionally nice to others while HR was watching. Of course I had value in the company so many people asked me to retract, however to further damage the reputation of my enemy I DIDNT.

Do it, only if u are still young and have the work experience to jump or quit if things get out of hand. We all work until we die, how can you retire in SG? So in the grand scheme of things, being jobless for 1 or 2 years is nothing.

Unregistered 27-06-2023 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 250615)
Dont be afraid to quit and go to war. Ignore anyone who tells you otherwise. You will be letting your parents who raised you down by being easily bullied.

If u dont like someone in office or that particular person offended you, Dont be afraid to escalate to your superior and HR of course. Even if u think nothing happens, i'm sure the reputation and corporate image of that person is ruined. Make sure that you have value in the company so that your departure will cause an impact, this will further ruin the reputation of your enemy. Go on glassdoor and post a negative review on work place harrassment, this will further impact the hiring of the company which the HR will pay the price when they can't find new staff.

I did it once. AND IT FELT GOOD! my enemy from so aggressive became a mouse almost instantly once she knew my true potential in escalation email. Moreover, I went around office to spread what happened and people secretly judged her. Once you image is ruined, its a hard to recover. She had to put in extra effect to clear that negative image by being exceptionally nice to others while HR was watching. Of course I had value in the company so many people asked me to retract, however to further damage the reputation of my enemy I DIDNT.

Do it, only if u are still young and have the work experience to jump or quit if things get out of hand. We all work until we die, how can you retire in SG? So in the grand scheme of things, being jobless for 1 or 2 years is nothing.

I can foresee when you are in your 50s and gotten retrenched, you will do the same thing again and become an annoying evil lao ah pek.

Unregistered 28-06-2023 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 250615)
Dont be afraid to quit and go to war. Ignore anyone who tells you otherwise. You will be letting your parents who raised you down by being easily bullied.

If u dont like someone in office or that particular person offended you, Dont be afraid to escalate to your superior and HR of course. Even if u think nothing happens, i'm sure the reputation and corporate image of that person is ruined. Make sure that you have value in the company so that your departure will cause an impact, this will further ruin the reputation of your enemy. Go on glassdoor and post a negative review on work place harrassment, this will further impact the hiring of the company which the HR will pay the price when they can't find new staff.

I did it once. AND IT FELT GOOD! my enemy from so aggressive became a mouse almost instantly once she knew my true potential in escalation email. Moreover, I went around office to spread what happened and people secretly judged her. Once you image is ruined, its a hard to recover. She had to put in extra effect to clear that negative image by being exceptionally nice to others while HR was watching. Of course I had value in the company so many people asked me to retract, however to further damage the reputation of my enemy I DIDNT.

Do it, only if u are still young and have the work experience to jump or quit if things get out of hand. We all work until we die, how can you retire in SG? So in the grand scheme of things, being jobless for 1 or 2 years is nothing.

It really sounds like you're the cunt in this story

Unregistered 28-06-2023 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 250482)
raged quit 8 months ago now very regretful.

have a mother with dementia that needs to take care of.

Thinking should I go geylang and sell now that covid is over.

what u guys think?

Things will get better, dont worry

Unregistered 28-06-2023 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 250615)
Dont be afraid to quit and go to war. Ignore anyone who tells you otherwise. You will be letting your parents who raised you down by being easily bullied.

If u dont like someone in office or that particular person offended you, Dont be afraid to escalate to your superior and HR of course. Even if u think nothing happens, i'm sure the reputation and corporate image of that person is ruined. Make sure that you have value in the company so that your departure will cause an impact, this will further ruin the reputation of your enemy. Go on glassdoor and post a negative review on work place harrassment, this will further impact the hiring of the company which the HR will pay the price when they can't find new staff.

I did it once. AND IT FELT GOOD! my enemy from so aggressive became a mouse almost instantly once she knew my true potential in escalation email. Moreover, I went around office to spread what happened and people secretly judged her. Once you image is ruined, its a hard to recover. She had to put in extra effect to clear that negative image by being exceptionally nice to others while HR was watching. Of course I had value in the company so many people asked me to retract, however to further damage the reputation of my enemy I DIDNT.

Do it, only if u are still young and have the work experience to jump or quit if things get out of hand. We all work until we die, how can you retire in SG? So in the grand scheme of things, being jobless for 1 or 2 years is nothing.

My 2 cents and observations:
- Disagree with the "we all work until we die". Our effective runway is till 50. After that, we are extremely expendable. One wrong move and that is it. Assuming you start to work in your 20s, you have less than 30 years to be financially secure. If you really believe the gov's msg that you can work till 67, you really don't know the market very well.
- You are worth more than the toxicity you bring to the office. That is your saving grace. Managers will rather fire toxic workers than deal with their nonsense. The trouble and damage they bring to the team morale is just not worth it.
- Your enemy endure your toxicity and did not rage quit. Kudos to your enemy.
- I wouldn't be surprised that HR is monitoring you and not your enemy. You mentioned many people ask you to withdraw. That means many people in the company culture sided with your enemy, not you. You are the difficult one. Naturally, HR will be monitoring you.

Unregistered 28-06-2023 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 250370)
I am in my late 40s, just tested water to see my market value. Sent out several resume to diff companies. No replies. Luckily I still got my current job. No joke. Imagine I rage quit. What will happen.

You are the smart one. Rage quit is for immature newbies. Not having a job for 1 year with a family in tow is no joke. Seen and heard too many such cases during the covid years. SG seems to be heading toward a technical recession. Rage quit now is just nuts.

Unregistered 28-06-2023 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 250789)
My 2 cents and observations:
- Disagree with the "we all work until we die". Our effective runway is till 50. After that, we are extremely expendable. One wrong move and that is it. Assuming you start to work in your 20s, you have less than 30 years to be financially secure. If you really believe the gov's msg that you can work till 67, you really don't know the market very well.
- You are worth more than the toxicity you bring to the office. That is your saving grace. Managers will rather fire toxic workers than deal with their nonsense. The trouble and damage they bring to the team morale is just not worth it.
- Your enemy endure your toxicity and did not rage quit. Kudos to your enemy.
- I wouldn't be surprised that HR is monitoring you and not your enemy. You mentioned many people ask you to withdraw. That means many people in the company culture sided with your enemy, not you. You are the difficult one. Naturally, HR will be monitoring you.

Learn to read, not sure what u going on about, but clearly your comprehension skills is lacking


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