It is really not hard to define.

Basic workload are things that can be reasonably completed within the MOM 44h work week.

Anything over 44h is considered overtime. Since there is no overtime pay, any OT done is considered going above and beyond.

The main job responsibility of teachers, should be to teach. Period.
If they want to hire teachers and have them do low value admin work, coaching or cca-related work, then it just reflects poor use of manpower.

Committee work, should be left to KPs and KP-aspirants. In the past, these extra work was done by these groups of people on a voluntary basis, and was not part of an ordinary teacher's KPI.

And seriously, how many of these committees are really essential?

which also means the lower calibre ones stay on haha
teaching is so passe in this day and age. those that can't do, teach.
also.. those fb friends of mine who are now teachers were once crappy students with below average results. guess they went into teaching cos their options were limited.
def wouldn't want my kids to join the teaching professional. sorry, not profession, job.
the real professionals are doctors and lawyers :)

I’m aged 33 drawing 12k/mth on a 15mth annual package in the private sector.
Have always have the passion to teach and looking for stability because of family. Can check if can match in teaching and if not, how much paycut do I need to incur?

Lol scholar = good results = must be high calibre. It's truly fascinating that ppl bash scholars for being out of touch, only have good grades but no actual sense while at the same time assume that the younger gen of scholars are somehow great.

ummm. no. NEVER.
ur employer is moe not a private firm seeking to match your last drawn pay.
there are standardised saiary scales.
i believe the most u can ever be paid starting out is 4plus. they may promote u faster based on years of experience but u will be competing with other teachers . do note promotions get u like 300 more…

Boy are you right.
Sorry I forgot that teachers like u are unlikely to be able to find employment outside.
My bad. Keep up the good work.

word.

bulls eye.

Did I even say that I'm a teacher in the first place? Lol. The public service itself is rather transparent anyway if you read widely. You don't have to be in a particular profession to just understand the gist of it.

Nice assumptions there. In return, it's just retards who are really unable to see the real commitments of teachers. I will only eat my words if you downright admit that you have never been through the public education system, and achieved everything yourself.

Teachers can still carry on with a balanced career and personal life if they just try to keep to the basic requirements. Ignore those trolls who want to talk trash since they can't get the stability or influence.

Expect at least a 50% paycut

25-30% pay cut?!

GEO2 ceiling how much only?

30% paycut where got enough

There was some payscale range collated many pages ago.

2022 scale
[2015] GEO1 (Untrained): ? (non-graduates start here)
[2015] GEO1 (Trained): 1600-2730
[2022] GEO2 (Untrained): 2300-5000 (graduates start here)
[2022] GEO2 (Trained): 2950-5200 - [10%]
[2022] GEO3: 3900-6250 - [9%]
[2022] GEO4: 4800-7700 - [5%]
[2022] GEO5: 5150-8250 - [5%]
[2022] GEO5A: ? (max salary grade for standard teacher)
[2022] SEO1: 6400-10250 (min. LH/SH/ST) - [8%]
[2022] SEO2: 7850-11650 (min. HOD/LT)
[Pre-2015] SEO3: 8748-11232 (min. HOD/MT)

2015 scale
GEO1 (Untrained): ? (non-graduates start here)
GEO1 (Trained): 1600 - 2730
GEO2 (Untrained): 2000-4340 (graduates start here)
GEO2 (Trained): 2538-4500
GEO3: 3515 -5616
GEO4: 4545-7271
GEO5: 4903-7845 (max salary grade for standard teacher)
SEO1: 5651-9064 (min. LH/SH/ST)
SEO2: 7236-10766 (min. HOD/LT)

With working experience, i think u are more suited for teaching role in ITE or Poly..

i doubt the compensation offered in ITE or poly will be any higher tho...probably have to aim for local uni professor

U want less work? U got it. And less pay too. Fair enough?

What kind of job
Do you do?

If it involve training, chief trainer etc

Or senior manager of HR etc
We can put u on probation as VP (admin)

HR manager and VP (admin) are not teaching roles lol...still education related though

Not like the pay is high to begin with. The 'additional' pay is marginal compared to the amount of work done.

There's a reason why so many are converting to FAJTs.

Hi is there updated paycale range for 2024?

The payscale doesn't change annually. There'll be big announcements every time there's a salary revision. The last one in 2022 is thus the most updated version.

OP here seeking advice. What would be roles in HQ I should look out for - which will help me greatly for SD (not very interested in IP)

Consider CCEB

Ge02 earning 4.7k. i may be promoted to geo3 this year. By how much will my pay be bumped up?

How many years since you graduated?

how is ranking done for officers on maternity leave or no pay leave?

some ppl just need to do their mls & stfu

What's SD?

hello. i'm thinking of leaving service but want to collect my PB first, can I leave immediately after PB is paid out?

Higher management will happily let you leave, since resignations will help lower the labour cost and hence cut budget - probably something favorable for the people in the ivory towers. But they will convince you to only leave in mid year so that it is easier to manage deployment changes.

Are you also another burnt out soul?

No, last day needs to be on or after 30 Apr. Can find the info on the hr portal

My last day jun 30

Whoopp

Revisions of salary
 

Past 2 decades there's been about 2 to 3 revisions. Seeing the current economic situation, not sure if the frequency of revisions will be reduced.

Look out for open posting by SDCD. CCE branch is under them. Mainly, your office will be at Grange road.

Im trying to understand why every staff under MOE is overworked and unhappy? This encompasses teaching, counselling, admin, IT staff.

What is it that MOE is not doing well such that we have staff unhappy with their workload and work-life balance? Cutting manpower due to limited budget?

Because the toxic work culture in MOE is built upon a warped appraisal system.

If you ask officers from other ministries, their appraisal is mainly based on their core work. For example, economists mainly spend their time on analyzing economic trends, engineers mainly focus on technical operations, policy planners focusing on planning work. Maybe contribute a bit in committee work, like organising annual staff dinner or departmental outings.

Otherwise got professional officers to handle corporate roles.

Meanwhile school officers wear too many additional hats, to the point that emphasis in teaching is outshone.

Epms becomes a list of what additional stuff an officer has done.

Double hatting as:
procurement officers (handles sourcing, AORS, quotes, raising gebiz, evaluate tenders, awarding tenders)
Coach (certain sports and clubs, the teachers are the main instructors)
Counsellor to student (teacher counsellor)
Counsellor to colleagues (wellness ambassador)
Communications (need to produce school publications, manage school websites, handle school social media accounts)
Researchers (need to plan and conduct education research)
AV support (need to do AV duties for small events such as school meetings, to large events such as school celebrations)
Tech support (administrator to perform reset of various student accounts)
Secondment (arrowed to do seab exam duty, eld election duty)
First aider (expected to deliver first aid in event of emergency)

No such nonsense in other govt roles.

Manpower is sufficient if teachers are expected to focus mainly on teaching and appraised accordingly.

Manpower will always be insufficient if teachers are piled on more and more non-core work, work that makes the school and SLs look good, at the expense of officers' health and family time.

Just a minor correction here - plenty of non-MOE staff get arrowed to do election duties.

To correct your correction...

The ratio of MOE staff to non-MOE staff is still much greater.

1. Many election venues used are schools.

2. Historically, election dates/periods are held during school holidays.

Hence, all these make it much easier to activate teachers for election duties.

Any teacher mummies gave birth in September before?
How did you fully utilise the 4-month maternity leave?

it is possible to break up maternity leave so that you get your December protected time. can check with HR

Hmm… do you have stats, or is this just based on deduction? (I don't know the answer myself, just wanted to know if this is confirmed.)

On their own, I feel the above two reasons aren't particularly strong reasons to activate teachers in particular:
1) Officers tend to be assigned to polling stations near their registered address (regardless of where they work); there's no real need to activate more teachers just because schools are election venues.

2) Polling Day is a public holiday; there's no real advantage to activating teachers over other officers.

I will admit that I feel I've seen many teachers deployed as election officers; but this has been anecdotal on my part. Is there anything that confirms this observation?