Hi all I have around 2 years plus work exp.
Currently in a company that pays me >9k per month.
Used to be at a FAANG coy, now IT MNC.

Not sure if mindef SID will scale to my current pay or higher?

FAANG want to join SID? Your head ok? They will probably offer you 4K with 2YOE.

LOL

Eh I already been through the SID interview 2 months ago.
They now ask me go for security screening but seems lehceh and not sure worth my time or not. So wanna ask people here what is it like transitioning from private to public sector.

you like to do paper submissions? write emails?

No leh… I hate those lol. My current job I only write like 1-2 emails per week.

Don’t bother joining SID. You will probably quit in a year

spend 4 mths doing security clearance and quit in 3 mths probably

Likely DXO paygrade for SID.... Its not the usual MX scheme for SID. Other people can chip in to verify.

They got back to you on your interview result after 2 months?

Yes correct, took the test somewhere in early sept, got interviewed like in early oct. Now asking me for security vetting

SID is management exec scheme and not DXO. Stop confusing people.

Took my onsite test on 27 August, followed by the psychometric test afterwards.

Received the rejection today after 4 months, can finally consider case closed.

Good luck to those who are moving forward to SID!

finally someone who knows the real deal

its not exactly mx either :)

curious - what does your security vetting process consist of?

Somewhat right to say that, but does it even matter what scheme it is?
You still get paid right?

IO scheme, for those who know. :o

Erm, its close, but its a little different.

how long security vetting takes after interview?

I read that it could be around 2 to 3 months.

So I guess the whole application process for MINDEF could be 6 months from date of application to contract signing :(

Difficult to get in and difficult to get out.. Better be sure you're gonna be happy working there for a long time..

Yes, you come out no one want you also due to no relevant work exp. With this big fiasco I also dun wanna join. Rejected their offer

This is about right, looking at first assessment for those whom went for SID test.
Security assessment should be about 1-2 months.

But overall timeline is around 4-6 months , for expectation on the first assessment as a starting point. So for those take at July for example, you can expect Jan thereabout for your answer.

For those in August, maybe in Feb.

And yes, it is difficult , in fact very difficult to get in. It is easy to get out, but what you gonna do outside as the skills transfer might not be very relevant and there are things you cannot share as you had signed some documents.

DYDD, choose wisely when offered, try to ask for a higher pay.

pay is pretty fixed for new joiner

IMO if you do get offered in SID, better think very carefully about the package they are offering, especially the salary. This is even more critical for fresh school leavers without prior working experience. Reason I'm saying is that once you get in, and if the work and conditions/environment eventually start to beat/wear you down, at least a good salary will motivate and keep you going. The risk is once you leave, you might not have alot of transferable skills that will make you attractive to employers outside. Considering the nature of this employment, likely you won't have alot of bargaining chips, unless you are a highly prized asset to the organisation due to some highly specialised knowledge/skills, etc. So think over and over again, look carefully at the compensation package, before you sign, especially for those without prior work experience to back you up, this could be a sure way to mess the rest of your life up should you find dissatisfaction later on.

It has been 2.5 months after the interview without hearing anything for me, should I just be waiting for the rejection email?

I messaged the HR to asked for an update, maybe you can try the same?

Received rejection email yesterday, attended the interview last month

Generally if you had only taken tests and no interviews, and been waiting for a month or more since your last test, very high chance you are already in rejection pool and sitting there till eventually new hires are confirmed and you will then be purged from the list and receive rejection notification. But if you had attended and cleared interviews, you might be waiting for security vetting/clearance which may take up to 3months.

Once you get in, better stay in and don't try to leave. Coz once you come out, might be difficult to get other jobs coz likely alot of questions will be asked by prospective employers as to the reason why you left. They will be naturally be inclined to think that the reason is probably due to work performance or discipline issues.

Can I get advice on how the application process for MINDEF is like now?

Read some posts previously it was:
1. Psychometric test
2. Interview
3. Unit preview
4. Medical and security screening
5. Offer

Is it still the same?

Sounds like it can turn out to be either a lifelong career or a life sentence.. Guess that depends on how well one plays 'the game' and luck plays a role too!

I have not received anything so far but I took my onsite test on 30 Aug lol!!!

Maybe I slipped through the cracks

Very likely due to headcount still not filled up and still have interviewed candidates pending security clearance.

Anyone who left and rejoin can share your experience?

would also like to hear from the experiences of those who tried finding jobs in the private sector after some time in SID!

Should be somewhat the same, for Unit Preview, due to COVID might not be possible, not sure about that. Interview there likely be 2-4 interviews depending on role and seniority.

does anyone knows what's the bonus for c grade? I heard c grade is fixed for all newbies

Probably 1.5 months

1.4 to 1.9 , it is pretty true to assume first year you tend to get a lousier grade but shouldnt affect the newbie that much as it is pro-rated.