What a fking stupid take.

Protect what interest? did u even read the article lol, there's a reason why the judge didn't even side with shopee.

also please, ure the same as all of us here, we work for money, dont try and take the morale high ground acting like u some civilized business wannabe lol cringe

I'm not taking any moral high ground. I'm saying it's perfectly reasonable for companies to routinely enforce their non-competes against their employees, regardless of the merits.

These legal cost are loose change to companies. You think they care about losing a few small cases and paying lawyers the loose change?

On the contrary, it is people like you taking the moral high ground pretending to adopt a "pro-worker" stance.

The principle is not just about this case, which Shopee indeed lost. It's a larger point and principle that companies should have the right to protect their legitimate interests.

You obviously have an inability to appreciate larger, more abstract notions and are harping only on this individual case. Typical coder brain. That's probably why you work in Shopee

Rubbish. If Shopee really wanted to protect its trade secret they would have paid said employee better so he would not have left in the first place.

Your counter argument is basically "no, you and btw u work at Shopee, dumbass coder brain".

Take the fat L and move on, that guy is right, no one cares. Literally no one here agrees with your stupid L take.

Lol nope. Try again, this time engaging my points on the merits.

The other guy above's "solution" is basically to pay people more. Lmao. As if people will not play out their employers for even better paymasters.

You guys clearly do not understand human nature or commercial decisions. No wonder can only be code monkeys for chinese internet products. Keep plugging away. XJP is counting on you.

yup lol bro just assume i work at shopee just because i disagree with him, wtf

Too bad the judge doesn't agree with you either. Don't worry, can always appeal. :o

The irony in you using big words when in reality you talk like a typical YP monkey.

what is shopee fresh grad pay like now?

I rmb in company law, non-compete clause is very difficult to win. Shopee need a high basis to prove that it can affect shopee business.

If this clause is easily won, then everyone who loses their job will not be able to get an employment in the same field, which totally kills their livelihood. Hence, judge usually dont side these issues.

For swe and sre position is 6k ish, but with competing offer can nego up to 8k

what about non-tech roles? like marketing/ops/bd

why tf u sucking up to companies lol they dont give a fk about u lil bro,

why do u think sg birthrate is falling and we're mass importing foreigners from poorer countries? everyone's exhausted after getting sucked dry by big companies and the new imports are all happy to put up with it since its better than getting 1/4 of the same pay and work 3x as hard in their own hometown

iirc it was 4-4.5k on my uni job portal which is usually most accurate

Anyone knows the most recent shopee PM salary range for this year? Nodeflair’s data seems a bit outdated.

Anyone knows what the is salary for business intelligence analyst with 1-2 YOE?

Issue is not with foreigners but with YOU. Want high paying job, want stress free job, want own time own target job. Go be grab driver la. And stop complaining why foreigners earn >$10k p.m. after a few years while you still stuck driving Grab

^bump.

Would appreciate any inputs. The salary range on Glassdoor looks outdated.

What a incredibly childish argument.

"Oh you disagree with me? = LOL you drive grab HAHA LOL"

What's next? I reply to you = LOL I DRIVE GRAB LOL

bump^ any 2024 grads who just received their actual salary offer?

5.75k base monthly, no stock

Is this for SWE/PM role? How about pseudo tech roles such as data analyst or business intelligence?

why in the fk would i tell you any further when you can't even check the quoted post and see that the salary i gave is for their PM roles.

I don't know why some ppl here are so rude. Isn't this forum a place for corporate slaves like us to level the playing field with the employers who are mostly out to undermine us whenever possible?

i dont know what fking nonsense are you spouting nor do i give a f

if you think you're a corporate slave dog then ok, still doesn't change the fact that i am not going to explain every single time whether the pay i posted is for PM or SWE when i clearly replied to a post asking about "shopee's PM pay".

if i did then we would go nowhere, every 5-10 post, someone will come in and ask "oh is this for shopee?" "oh is this full time?" etc just because people are too lazy and ADHD brained to even spend 10 seconds checking the quoted posts

internet culture in SG is so cringe and dogshit, no wonder every western online community hates us

LOL totally agree

faang reject spotted

is last round HR round (fresh grad position) supposed to be offer call, or an actual behavioural round?

I recall for me, the last round was with the HR where the recruiter will inform you about the package. I assumed the behavioural rounds should be done during the earlier stages since i did not have a specific behavioural round.

I encounter this all the time too but no need to be so rude about it. Just don't reply if it pisses you.

all swe recently sot sot one. spent the last 3 years chasing too much headline salaries but now tech winter so all scared and frustrated . frustrations boiling over

simi lj dont reply? ur father forum izzit?

lol @ u thinking sg pay high tech salaries

ur tech market is just 90% ceca, 10% sgs in china companies asking to relocate overseas

The problem is every tom d and harry fresh cs grad from NTU and NUS has been reading the nonsense articles that Business Insider, Techcrunch and Techinasia have been pumping out and are led to believe that all SWEs deserve >20k per month jobs for working 10am to 4pm hours like a jiak liao bee Twitter employee.

Ya lo. Even if go in they quit after 6-9 months saying did not meet their expectation. Then complain why no jobs, ft stealing jobs, gov not providing enough quality jobs when the real problem is themselves

Received an offer for monthly 5.3k- 5.5k.. am i being lowballed? Big 3 grad FCH w competing offer (HR said no nego for fresh grads though)

The important point to consider is not whether u are being lowballed but which offer on hand is more likely to develop you for greater things later. Above figure quoted is pretty decent considering the current situation. Get the necessary experience and report to silicon valley or your dream job in the near future.

Thanks for the advice! Appreciate it :)

100% lowballed hard

u can negotiate, HR is ********ting, let me guess, name starting with S?

btw no one gives a f about ur FCH or which uni, think you're mistaking that as "leverage", shopee doesn't care, maybe garbage companies like ST engineering will care