means fresh grad work two years pay as good as someone with 4-5yrs exp joining from private? Gonna apply nao!

Not a good sign I would say

D E F all also associate

joined last yr D, 2022 become E

got E draw more salary than F also

4-5 yr join also like G, but salary wise maybe only 300-500 more than freshie

i rather than have higher grade and draw low salary.

at least i can boast to people i am high grade. hehehe

I rather have low title high pay hahaha

Sure you do that, and I'd gladly take your money and stay at a lower grade.

this one stupid max, seriously something wrong!
time to wake up HR & senior management!!!

Seniority doesnt == competency. Some new grads has tons of internship experience. You have when you were new grad? Also, some people forget that some of the fresh grad salary are higher because they are tech roles, swe, devops, security etc

hello sir, i did comparing tech roles, junior swe vs senior swe etc

the scheme does not have time norms so if the boss thinks the person is capable in the higher grade , he will be promoted. years of svc doesnt equate to being capable at the next higher level

everyone has to make their choices. i think its fair if the pay justify the moves. its not an organisation job to kee everyone from leaving. they just need tk keep the ones that want to

lol you probably cant share the linkedin. so whats your thoughts on him? a strong contributor missed by gt or fairly deserving of where he is?

either way what u mean is that the 10yoe or 7 yoe associates mentioned here would not even get promoted even once under the old IDA scheme?

He started his career not in GovTech as an SWE and joined GovTech as a BA before switching back to SWE. Given his years of experience in development and devops, I feel that he should be at least G loh. But I guess HR ignored his prior experience sees him as a "new" SWE just because he joined GovTech as BA before switching back to SWE.

Lololol wtf really and your friend ok with that?

So he was a BA at F grade and switch back to swe? So how much is he drawing now as swe? Me do pm till sian too, want switch back. How your friend switch back? Apply internally at govtech? Hehe

what to do sir, basket hr got ultimate decision! they can lower down your performance rating as well.

HR got so jialat meh? They taking orders only lah

nobody will take an opportunity if it's all a loss

Could be a better deal compare with SME so he/she accept it first.

Compare with pre-covid, WFH caused us more long working hours. Plus more people leaving now, have to tanks 1-2ppl workloads some more.

I hope they better pay us handsome increment for govtechie who retain. If 2% again I will cry! haha

Boomer HR and big bosses here carry outdated practice of lowballing employees, which backfire real quick nowadays :)

Don't be afraid. If you are in tech, it's employee's market now.

If HR still take previous salary +20%, they straight away lose a talent.
The previous salary was determined from the previous job JD and people tend to progress with more experience and skillset gain, also need to take into account of the new JD.

If the experience/certification gained only worth 20% from the HR, I think better fire that HR person, pretty sure the HR can't do the job well and do market research.

YES! hired for one scope but tanking 3x agency now! don't 2% me please! haha

yeah.

am planning to leave for LTA. best tech company in singapore

why best? plz share

good luck. hehe. hope to see you whining soon at the other thread.

Siao meh? Govtech is e best public tech you can join! Think twice bro hehe

#buyaoxiangbukai

second that

Govtech trying to consolidate all the security nao

Please share more info

not understand sir, what u mean "consolidate all the security"?

tiagong consolidating with CSA, CISA and NCSA

thank you sir! not related to me then, haha

Lol, then if we include csit as well, we can promote crown prince to Minister Of Cybersecurity and pave the way for him

You will never know bro. Wait for it.

Whats cisa and ncsa ?

Do you really want to know?