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7 years experience, diploma grad. Offered e5 3.9k. Is it ok?

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 229943)

7 years experience, diploma grad. Offered e5 3.9k. Is it ok?

Consider not bad already without degree.

6 year and just finish my part-time degree (Somemore NTU). they offer me 4k. semi sai sia

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 229887)

Why you all care so much about title. Tbh, the pay is more important. In ST the salary range is very big so a E6 can also be drawing more than a manager.

Somemore, nobody really care about your rank in the company anyway, there so many self proclaimed title in the officer. Alot of E5 or E6 who stuck in the same rank for 3-5 year will start to give themself make up title like system manager, project manager,lead developer...... Etc

My department culture is very bad. The manager alway delay project and only start to schedule the project when they cannot delay the project anymore so when we are alway fighting fire when we are deployed to the field. That why, my department got OT is very common due to the bad management.

Then when OT, you will start to envy poly hire cos they are paid for their ot and also double pay during weekend and holiday. Degree holder... Come back work for free and same hr

Stupid fool.
The title we referring to is the pay grade..
M1 earn more than E6 le. E6 more than E5.
M3 more than M2.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 229977)

Stupid fool.
The title we referring to is the pay grade..
M1 earn more than E6 le. E6 more than E5.
M3 more than M2.

You are the real stupid fool. some E5 and E6 earn more than M1 in this company. You are probably the stupid M1 earning 4.8k managing a bunch of fresh grad E5 that earn 5k. Salary is important in this company, not the title.

UOL first class with 1 yr work experience can join as m1 or not?

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 230004)

UOL first class with 1 yr work experience can join as m1 or not?

cannot, most likely E5 only.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 230029)

cannot, most likely E5 only.

Unless you have special skill or relation to the hiring manager, you wun get m1, by right m1 need 5 yr work exp

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 230078)

Unless you have special skill or relation to the hiring manager, you wun get m1, by right m1 need 5 yr work exp

Some 5 years won't even promote to E6, let alone M1.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 230332)

Some 5 years won't even promote to E6, let alone M1.

You do know that management job is to make profit for the company so their own bonus is high?
I'm M2 managing a team of 1 M1, 1 E6 and 3 E5.

I can't change this composition.
Its set by my boss.
Unless I bring in a new project that cost more than hiring cost.
Then only he agree to hire extra 1 or 2 E5.

Sad to say the M1 is my buddy he been working for me for 10 years now.
The E6 is new. Won't be promoted. He will probably leave before.
E5s job are very relax. They just fix some minor bugs and do some simple service request.

Most of the time I can see them play mobile games in office.
(like I have no eyes they hide the phone by the laptop)...

How to promote?
Then if they leave we can rehire the E5 fresh with more energy and motivation.
The M1 and E6 are the key person. And I made sure they document the work.
Its part of their kpi which I review every quarter.

Also part of exit clearance is documentation. I made them sign and declare and acknowledge on first day they join.

So I already covered my bases.
Sad to say I also don't have chance to promote

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 230340)

No matter how many E5 you hire. their energy and motivation will lost since this company give E5 job like any technician can do it.

So this is the company culture and how it work.