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Unregistered 01-04-2014 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50079)
same! that explains.. lol
ok i will update here

Ok mine is updated.

but qte peanuts ah. Promoted from 1a1 to 1a2 and total increment is only 8.6%. Wonder if thats the norm

Unregistered 01-04-2014 09:03 PM

MX11, got B for PB. Merit Increment of $474 (7.7% increase).

2nd upper, male with NS. 31 years old. non-psc scholar.

Unregistered 01-04-2014 09:24 PM

After the salary scale was updated, did the amount initially reflected increase?


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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50095)
Ok mine is updated.

but qte peanuts ah. Promoted from 1a1 to 1a2 and total increment is only 8.6%. Wonder if thats the norm


Unregistered 01-04-2014 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 49976)
[Clarification pls]

Hi, thanks for sharing.

May I clarify whether u started off as a MX 13 or 12 back in Apr 2011?

Are u 30 or 31 this yr?

Thanks!

31 this year. Started @ MX12.

Unregistered 01-04-2014 10:24 PM

Mx 12, pb A, increment 550. Is this considered the norm?

Unregistered 01-04-2014 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50095)
Ok mine is updated.

but qte peanuts ah. Promoted from 1a1 to 1a2 and total increment is only 8.6%. Wonder if thats the norm

Mine is not updated yet. Salary scale remains as the old one

Unregistered 03-04-2014 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50066)
I am a mx13. Grad from unisim 2012.

Unisim grad... 2009,

Joined service 2011 as mx12
Mx11 now, 28yo

Unregistered 03-04-2014 06:33 AM

hello, anybody knows if sim (ub) graduates with magna cum laude (2nd upper) is likely to be called back for an interview? applied for MHA Hase position. thanks!

Unregistered 03-04-2014 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by unregistered (Post 50056)
mi is out at pac @ gov. Login clock current salary scale range .

Mx12 b grade increase $204.... Seemi lan jiao.... So much for a b... I thought at least have $277 or $244. Pui chao nua... Work so hard still like this...

mx12, b, 8.6%

Unregistered 03-04-2014 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50152)
mx12, b, 8.6%

so how much is the increment if it is a promotion?

Unregistered 04-04-2014 09:38 AM

MX10, B, 3.8% MI. lower than last year.

Unregistered 04-04-2014 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50169)
so how much is the increment if it is a promotion?

from mx12 to mx11
perf grade "A"
total increment 14.4%
i think it's quite bad?

Unregistered 04-04-2014 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50177)
from mx12 to mx11
perf grade "A"
total increment 14.4%
i think it's quite bad?

Grade A is rare indeed. With promotion i would expect more.

but across ministries looks like promotion increment is not that high too percentage wise.

Its a systemic benchmark. Well, 'you pay peanuts, you get monkeys'

Unregistered 04-04-2014 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50182)
Grade A is rare indeed. With promotion i would expect more.

but across ministries looks like promotion increment is not that high too percentage wise.

Its a systemic benchmark. Well, 'you pay peanuts, you get monkeys'

looks like i am promoted in the wrong year? hahaha
wasted my "A"

Unregistered 04-04-2014 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50184)
looks like i am promoted in the wrong year? hahaha
wasted my "A"

Was wondering what exactly is the quantum sum for ur A? I reckon pac@gov has yet to update ur promotional increment. I've gotten 550 increment for my A.

Unregistered 04-04-2014 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50177)
from mx12 to mx11
perf grade "A"
total increment 14.4%
i think it's quite bad?



I find it quite disturbing that you (and many others) think 14.4% is a bad increment!

This is really making me think that civil servants are really out of touch with reality, and are a money-grubbing, self-serving bunch!

Unregistered 04-04-2014 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50187)
I find it quite disturbing that you (and many others) think 14.4% is a bad increment!

This is really making me think that civil servants are really out of touch with reality, and are a money-grubbing, self-serving bunch!

that is because we have worked hard and we expect more. especially when this includes promotion, which is very hard to come by

Unregistered 04-04-2014 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50186)
Was wondering what exactly is the quantum sum for ur A? I reckon pac@gov has yet to update ur promotional increment. I've gotten 550 increment for my A.

$400. u are in mx_?

Unregistered 04-04-2014 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50189)
$400. u are in mx_?

Mx 12 but no promo...

Unregistered 04-04-2014 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50193)
Mx 12 but no promo...

Wow. Good for you! How many years in service?

Unregistered 04-04-2014 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50195)
Wow. Good for you! How many years in service?

4...believe my cep is low?!

Unregistered 04-04-2014 11:44 PM

I heard it typically takes 3-5 years to go from MX12 to MX11...

Unregistered 04-04-2014 11:47 PM

How many yrs in svc? First job? Scholar/non scholar?

Unregistered 05-04-2014 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50203)
How many yrs in svc? First job? Scholar/non scholar?

Not first job. Joined CS in 2010. Non scholar. Guess my cep is not that high too.
U?

Unregistered 05-04-2014 09:21 AM

how long does it take to promote from mx11 to mx10?

assuming you start at $4510 (the min of the range), you need at least 5 years of $500 annual increment to be promoted?

Unregistered 05-04-2014 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50209)
Not first job. Joined CS in 2010. Non scholar. Guess my cep is not that high too.
U?

First.non scholar...just curious...how much was the quantum sum for ur promotional increment? Thanks.

Unregistered 05-04-2014 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50212)
how long does it take to promote from mx11 to mx10?

assuming you start at $4510 (the min of the range), you need at least 5 years of $500 annual increment to be promoted?

there's a bar halfway at MX11 - you need to be assessed capable of crossing the bar. otherwise your pay will stagnate at that bar - can't remember what's that value now.

juventusfc27 06-04-2014 11:56 AM

forgot to ask this question...

what's the oldest age u guys experienced that govt service accepts for MX for fresh degree holders?

Unregistered 06-04-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by juventusfc27 (Post 50237)
forgot to ask this question...

what's the oldest age u guys experienced that govt service accepts for MX for fresh degree holders?

no disrespect but i doubt you will get a definitive answer here. Why don't you email your HR?

Unregistered 07-04-2014 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50176)
MX10, B, 3.8% MI. lower than last year.


Am I right to say that, given the same grade, the higher your MX (i.e. the more senior you are), the lower would be the increment in percentage terms?

Unregistered 07-04-2014 05:48 PM

it's been said many times that MIs are not given out in % terms, but rather, based on relatively fixed absolute quantums

for e.g., if 2 MX12 officers, one on $4k and the other on $4.5k, both get a 'B' rating, we can expect both of them to receive very similar MIs (say ~$300). Therefore, the $4.5k chap will receive a smaller increment in % terms.

Unregistered 08-04-2014 02:16 PM

hi, anyone knows how the promotional increment is calculated? apparently, my promotional increment is lower than my annual increment. is the promotional increment tag to CEP or is it a fixed quantum sum or dependant on the yrs of svc?
thks much!

Unregistered 08-04-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by juventusfc27 (Post 50237)
forgot to ask this question...

what's the oldest age u guys experienced that govt service accepts for MX for fresh degree holders?

Have seen people in their early 30s still joining as MX12. I think if you can accept the more junior pay and position, age should not be an issue in most cases.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50279)
it's been said many times that MIs are not given out in % terms, but rather, based on relatively fixed absolute quantums

for e.g., if 2 MX12 officers, one on $4k and the other on $4.5k, both get a 'B' rating, we can expect both of them to receive very similar MIs (say ~$300). Therefore, the $4.5k chap will receive a smaller increment in % terms.

Not accurate. MI for MX10 onwards is in %.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50302)
hi, anyone knows how the promotional increment is calculated? apparently, my promotional increment is lower than my annual increment. is the promotional increment tag to CEP or is it a fixed quantum sum or dependant on the yrs of svc?
thks much!

PI is fixed based on which grade you promo to. (i.e. MX 12 to 11 PI is universal) However do take note that there is a 'hard cap' on the % of PI + MI that can be granted so there is still some variance there.

Unregistered 08-04-2014 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50279)
it's been said many times that MIs are not given out in % terms, but rather, based on relatively fixed absolute quantums

for e.g., if 2 MX12 officers, one on $4k and the other on $4.5k, both get a 'B' rating, we can expect both of them to receive very similar MIs (say ~$300). Therefore, the $4.5k chap will receive a smaller increment in % terms.

Can somebody pls enlightened me on tis? Wat is the meaning of fixed absolute quantums?(sorri if i am dumb,but dun really understand)

Reason i asking is because, i noe of 2 mx 12 officers both getting ard the same pay,both gt B,but one guy gt extra 200 in increment.....i was wondering if its because of CEP? Because the guy who gt more increment was a 2nd upper, vs the other guy a 3rd class.....

cslee 09-04-2014 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50325)
Can somebody pls enlightened me on tis? Wat is the meaning of fixed absolute quantums?(sorri if i am dumb,but dun really understand)

Reason i asking is because, i noe of 2 mx 12 officers both getting ard the same pay,both gt B,but one guy gt extra 200 in increment.....i was wondering if its because of CEP? Because the guy who gt more increment was a 2nd upper, vs the other guy a 3rd class.....

Very hard to tell - just by 1 year of MI. Long and short, you should try to observe the boss likes who more.

cslee 09-04-2014 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50188)
that is because we have worked hard and we expect more. especially when this includes promotion, which is very hard to come by

For most MX officers who rank from MX13 - MX9 during 35-40 year career, you can calculate how long would a promotion normally take. So, a promotion year is like a windfall year that only happens nearly once in a decade for most.

Unregistered 09-04-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
I find it quite disturbing that you (and many others) think 14.4% is a bad increment!

This is really making me think that civil servants are really out of touch with reality, and are a money-grubbing, self-serving bunch!

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50188)
that is because we have worked hard and we expect more. especially when this includes promotion, which is very hard to come by

got to agree with the original poster. the govt's usual stance is that CS salary must be pegged to pte sector to remain competitive, but i really wonder who they are pegging to.

i have worked in a Fortune 500 MNC with crappy 1-3% increments with an average B/C rating. have also worked in a GLC at about 3-7% for a B/C. only in banking will you get something like 10-15% for a B rating.

if you think about it it really is in the interest of the paper pushing, policy making scholars to come up with inflated salaries and increments while all the while insisting that this is what people in the market it earning.

bullocks.

Unregistered 09-04-2014 03:46 PM

Is anyone able to share the MI for MX10? Say, for B/C graders.

Unregistered 09-04-2014 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 50337)
got to agree with the original poster. the govt's usual stance is that CS salary must be pegged to pte sector to remain competitive, but i really wonder who they are pegging to.

i have worked in a Fortune 500 MNC with crappy 1-3% increments with an average B/C rating. have also worked in a GLC at about 3-7% for a B/C. only in banking will you get something like 10-15% for a B rating.

if you think about it it really is in the interest of the paper pushing, policy making scholars to come up with inflated salaries and increments while all the while insisting that this is what people in the market it earning.

bullocks.

To be fair, policy work is not as simple as what people make them out to be - writing paper. Alot of research, inputs, and data goes into crafting out a brand new policy or even to review existing ones. You'll be surprised at the wide range of areas that needs to be covered just to craft one policy out, even though it appears relatively straightforward.

Remember, at the end of the day, it is still the biggest head out there that directs the direction, approve or disapprove the policy. So while people in the pte sector are puzzled as to why CS salary must be pegged to pte to remain competitive, the reason is because you really need to attract the smart ones (to have both breadth and depth) to join and stay in CS. And I daresay the red-tape and culture in CS can be worse than in pte, a culture not all can adapt and survive.

Unregistered 09-04-2014 10:17 PM

Without generous MIs, there is little incentive to excel, cos once emplaced it's very hard to get fired.C is the default, almost no Ds, comparatively few Bs. So for the vast majority, it's hard work just to move from C to B. Many don't make the effort after 35.


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