Quit medicine. You can join insurance line. Or drug companies. Or informatics.

how many mopex have you done and what have you applied for?

are you an nus grad? maybe look to other countries or get full reg and locum for private gps

Dont exaggerate. 100k/month is absurd if youre in gov hospital.

The salary ceiling is 300k/year for senior cons and 200k for cons.

What are the prospect of being a gp nowadays? Heard that it is also getting saturated?

Wherever there is reasonable money and respect , people will flock to it. And make it saturated like law.

Hi I am a Singaporean about to finish studying in UK. I know that getting into residency is tough. Can I ask if junior doctors (under mopex/hopex) are treated the same as residents by senior doctors? (Or do residents get more benefits/teaching/opportunities?)

Yea 100k/month sounds a bit too much for any consultant even if you do procedure .
Is 200k/yr before tax? What is tax rate in Singapore .

100k/month ... what a troll ... not even working in the private sector or opening a chain of private clinic can earn you that much as a doctor unless you are really really famous or have a side business .. more like 20k a month

Law is not even as saturated

Agree that 100k / month is an exaggeration. However, I have friends who are medical consultants and they are paid like 14-15k per month. I always thought consultant who does procedures earn a significantly higher amount even in government hospital...

I am a final year student in UK. Planning to return to Singapore for housemanship. (Due to family reasons) Really worried that I will struggle to adapt. Would to ask if it is common for overseas trained ho to fail their job postings? (Do we get any leeway in the first few weeks of work?

there will always be a band. the top band will be specialties occupied by the most stellar candidates with amazing portfolios and many others trying to get selected. people stress themselves out trying to compete here.

the less prestigious routes like being a gp or rp offers more average money but always needs people to fill the ranks

Hi, this is a question for GPs. I am currently a 3rd year mopex mo. (I am Singaporean but graduated overseas). I have done mainly medical postings so far as an mo but I do plan to do a/e soon. I want to be a gp and would like some advice.
A) is it possible for me to work as a gp in polyclinic long term if I didn't go through the residency system? (It is quite difficult to get mopex posting in polyclinic)

B) if I go private, I have no plans/money to open my own clinic. Hence I will probably have to join large chain GPs like raffles medical/healthway etc.
- can I check which are the large chain GPs in Singapore (other than raffles/healthway which I know). And is it difficult to get a job with them?; Are they looking for people with post graduate qualifications? (I am doing gdfm for now, will consider doing mmed after).
-finally what sort of pay can I expect from them given that I am still quite new to the gp scene?

Thanks

You full or conditional reg?

For ops, you can join at 6.5k rp pay. Go Email several ops director Of your intention to join as rp. Beg them for a mopex posting and indicate your intention to join as rp. whether conditional or full, pay is the same, of 6.5k. But their bonus better than pte. All Sundays free, and you get to have family dinner every night.

For pte，conditional able be to fetch 9-10k but the schedule can be xiong. Like 55hrs. Need to work weekend. And most nights are burnt.

For full reg, you can negotiate up to 15k or more for 55hours schedule. Breaks not included.

I think all the chains are the same. No preference.

Gdfm is affordable . Total fees plus exam is about 10k if you pass on first try.
Do note mmed however is very expensive. About 23k excluding exams fees. I don't think mmed is very useful in pte sector.

Many thanks for your advice. I am conditionally registered and bonded to moh for another 1.5 years. (so 3 mopex postings). I will probably get full reg once my bond finish. Will try to get experience in the relevant postings in the meantime..

I have heard 1 person graduated from UK failed one of the postings during HO, had to redo a posting, so his HO took 16 mths I think

australia seems unlikely, australian grads cant get internship spots and would be hard to get training. i think it would be difficult unless you have done residency already

NZ not so sure, I only know of the malay GP who passed away a few years ago. They are recruiting GPs I believe, could stand a chance to go there but unlike sg all GPs go through a training programme so that can be an obstacle

seems quite a rare thing to break a bond with singaporean degree, do you have any other classmates wanting to do the same?

How many months of bonus you get in private gp sector working for these large chain gps? Conditionally registered doctors can work as private gp??

Hi, I am a currently a mopex mo. (Just returned from UK having completed ho there)
I plan to become a gp/ family physician. Just wondering will it be better to join FM residency or should I just try to do the relevant postings (Ed/paeds/polyclinic) and then quit mohh once bond finish (either to become RP in polyclinic or private gp?)

Do you become a fam med consultant once you exit from the residency?

short answer is no.
The exiting day of fam med residency will typically be on June 30th.
after exit, you will sit for mmed exams in the same year october.
after passing mmed, you will need 1 year to convert to mcfps
then spend another 2 years for the fellowship program (fcfps)
to be fm con, you need the fcfps.

Does a fm con work as a GP or does he or she have more roles and responsibility in the hospital ? I don't expect it to be a high paying job but work balance wise will the pay be a good enough compensation for the time and effort you put in?

Is fm residency competitive in Singapore?

I am currently a medical student (final year) in UK. Planning to return to sg to work as I am peg holder. I am interested in medicine in the long run. I was wondering how difficult is it to get IM residency and what is the job prospects for IM residents? (Noted that AC jobs are tough to get, what happens if an IM resident don't get an AC job or even Sr job at the end of their training? Do they go back to mopex??)

I don't have special interest in any of the subspec, so will be happy to do the less popular subspec (eg gen med) where there are higher chance of getting jobs. I thought of mopex for a few years to find what subspec I like but worried that this will affect my career progression if I enter residency late. (Will already be 27 years old when I return..)

Any advice?

4 to 5applicants for each position.
Historically was easy to get in. The past two to three years became very difficult.

Moderate difficulty 2 applicants for each position. Yes official stand is mohh can only pay you for one year as a service registrar post exit. After that year, you have to go back to mopex. In reality, Hosp will employ you as a senior rp or staff physician, and you wait till an AC post opens.

As long as they don't take in too many residents. There will be ac jobs in the long run.

Some times candidates are both victims and beneficiaries of the system. A broad quota makes entry easier, but makes finding jobs later harder. The very same loose quota that enables them to join residency fresh from med school without significant experience and portfolio is going to be the same quota that cause them unable to get a job immediately due to oversupply and excess capacity.

GP here. Wow so many MOs wanting to join the already saturated GP market. No one wants to be specialists?

So both the specialist and gp markets are saturated. Seem that the days when being a doctor is an iron rice bowl are long gone...

I think most have no qualms about staying an MO in the hospital
Just that income is pitiable for hours worked - one can only dream of an hourly wage in sing

Hence the option of locum & private work

how depressing. who wants to do an MO job all their life or be an RP?

There's always the option of moving abroad ??

I am a mopex mo, planning to be gp
Is it difficult to get rp jobs in polyclinic nowadays? I am happy to be a rp in polyclinic for the near future.

Last looked at sma job portal yesterday. Apparently singhealth polyclinics is hiring RPs. Not sure if it is easy to get the job though

Just wondering does the spectrum and variety of patients that you see differ greatly between polyclinic and private GPs?

In UK consultants get upwards of £180 an hour for locuming and locum jobs are always available. Do locum shifts in Singapore exist and how much doctors get paid there ?

Think locum are for GPs only. Although as consultant, you can work part time.

Do we need to have audit projects or research under our belt before applying for residency ? Will it be a significant disadvantage not to have those before applying ? Thinking of applying for residency but I do not yet have any audit or research projects. Any opportunities to do audit or researches while being a HO?

Yes you will be significantly disadvantaged with any journal publications. A lot of research opportunities happens during electives.

In this era of many applicants for one spot, to stand out you need
1) length of service- lots of mopex rotations in the specialty
2) exams. Pass part 1 or mrcp or full mrcs
3) publications if any. Or at least some posters.
4) good boss appraisals.

based on my recent visits to some specialist clinic, doctors in Singapore are extremely rich.

* hospital carpark has the highest concentration of luxury cars, way more than top banks building in CBD

* specialist hourly rate is SGD500+. Of course usually you don't pay that much because you don't sit there chat for an hour with them. But SGD200 for a 10-15 mins consultation is very typical

* a standard day surgery costs ~3X in specialist/private hospital compare to public hospital. a colonoscopy was quoted SGD4k-8k, which is a 30-45 mins non-intrusive operation only, in public hospital is only 1k+

after retire, if no medical insurance, can serious consider going JB or Thailand or even China for medical care

Those are <5% of doctors, old ones from the old days when specialty training spots were widely available and the road to being consultant was the fast track. Most now slog it out in the polyclinic/hospital - you just don't realise it.

If cars were a comparison, think public transport or cheap japanese cars.