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Unregistered 24-07-2021 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178267)
What happened if there is no AC post after completion of residency?

1) wait until the department has a position by working (and getting paid) as a senior service registrar.
2) find another hospital who has AC vacancy to hire you
3) quit and be a GP / housing agent / insurance agent etc

Unregistered 24-07-2021 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178277)
Who did you vote for to allow foreign born doctors to take your AC jobs? Hard truths

Now ac sure got job. They take very few trainees

Unregistered 25-07-2021 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178382)
Now ac sure got job. They take very few trainees

Is there not a need to compete with IMG doctors fresh out of residency abroad?

Unregistered 25-07-2021 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178277)
Who did you vote for to allow foreign born doctors to take your AC jobs? Hard truths

I voted for Wisely. You? lol

Unregistered 25-07-2021 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178366)
1) wait until the department has a position by working (and getting paid) as a senior service registrar.
2) find another hospital who has AC vacancy to hire you
3) quit and be a GP / housing agent / insurance agent etc

How much does a senior service registrar earn?

Unregistered 25-07-2021 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178406)
Is there not a need to compete with IMG doctors fresh out of residency abroad?

If they are born and bred Singaporeans whose parents and grandparents have contributed to the Singapore we have today, then of course they should be allowed to compete for AC positions just as YLL grads do.

Problem is the FT doctors with no skin in the game, no contribution to Singapore's defence and NS, who leech off Singapore's safe and politically stable work environment and deprive equally or more competent Singaporeans of their career progression.

Unregistered 25-07-2021 12:27 PM

can you apply for residency while serving the remainder of your NS? to go further, if I have e.g. 1.6 years of NS left, am I only allowed to apply for residency when I have less than a year left?

Unregistered 25-07-2021 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178426)
can you apply for residency while serving the remainder of your NS? to go further, if I have e.g. 1.6 years of NS left, am I only allowed to apply for residency when I have less than a year left?

You can apply. But whether the residency programme chooses to take you is another thing.
You can discuss frankly with the programme director / faculty to see if they are willing to keep the spot for you while you are away at NS.
Some are willing to keep for you. Some may not. Best to have a frank and upfront discussion

Unregistered 25-07-2021 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178411)
How much does a senior service registrar earn?

Prolly somewhere between a Reg and AC.
If you have already dedicated 5-6 years of your life to that specialty, no harm just waiting a little more with slightly less pay.

Unregistered 26-07-2021 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178419)
If they are born and bred Singaporeans whose parents and grandparents have contributed to the Singapore we have today, then of course they should be allowed to compete for AC positions just as YLL grads do.

Problem is the FT doctors with no skin in the game, no contribution to Singapore's defence and NS, who leech off Singapore's safe and politically stable work environment and deprive equally or more competent Singaporeans of their career progression.

I think you forgot that the government is the one importing FT doctors.

Unregistered 26-07-2021 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178366)
1) wait until the department has a position by working (and getting paid) as a senior service registrar.
2) find another hospital who has AC vacancy to hire you
3) quit and be a GP / housing agent / insurance agent etc

its very difficult for someone who has worked in the same specialty to be a GP, bar general medicine. General Medicine would complement GP work. even general surgical residents would have difficulty working as a GP.

How many doctors can really work as an estate agent or insurance agent? Medicine takes away creativity.

but anyways, should not have difficutly geting an AC job after residency

Unregistered 26-07-2021 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178498)
Medicine takes away creativity.

No wonder not many doctors become successful entrepreneurs and researchers.

However, doctors should possess love of humanity , not love of money and fame.

Unregistered 26-07-2021 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178502)
No wonder not many doctors become successful entrepreneurs and researchers.

However, doctors should possess love of humanity , not love of money and fame.

You dont understand the regulatory bodies for the profession of medicine.

It is a dictatorship. Sucks out all the creativity and think out of box stuff. You simply do not do that as a dr. You follow guidelines. Protocol. You want to do something different you will be suspended. Hence no doctor ever tries to think out of the box new ways to treat and help patients. All standardized. Monkey see monkey do. Watch one do one teach one.

What love of humanity? Love following guidelines treat every patient the same.

It is the pinnacle of conformity. Doctors dont make more money by being better. They make more money for working more. Ie more patients.

Unregistered 26-07-2021 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178502)
No wonder not many doctors become successful entrepreneurs and researchers.

However, doctors should possess love of humanity , not love of money and fame.

Obvs youre not a doctor lol

Unregistered 26-07-2021 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178365)
Cute question.
All hospitals have scrubs.
OT scrubs for wearing in OT
Regular scrubs when on call.
Depending on the hospital / department policy / your consultant’s own personal views, you may or may not get to wear the regular scrubs when you are not on call.
Generally surgical disciplines allow you to wear the regular hospital scrubs daily, although some may not allow you to wear it when running clinics.

If you want to wear your own scrubs, you probably have to be damn good at what you do so others won’t point fingers at you / HOD won’t scold you.

So doctors in scrubs usually represent that they are on call? And if they are in normal office attire they are not? Just curious with how the hospital attire works as I always thought it was up to the doctors themselves to decide on what they wanted to wear. How rare is it that SSRs, ACs and Cs have to be on call and in what departments?

Unregistered 27-07-2021 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178552)
So doctors in scrubs usually represent that they are on call? And if they are in normal office attire they are not? Just curious with how the hospital attire works as I always thought it was up to the doctors themselves to decide on what they wanted to wear. How rare is it that SSRs, ACs and Cs have to be on call and in what departments?

It’s up to the department / hospital policy.
SSR AC C all have to be on call. But the type of call varies from department to department.
Some departments require a ‘stay in’ call or it’s equivalent (like ED night shift, you can’t escape it even when you are senior), some allow a ‘stay out’ call (I.e. rush back to hospital when **** hits the fan and registrar cannot manage)

Unregistered 27-07-2021 10:02 AM

s://thehomeground.asia/survey-junior-docs-at-public-hospitals-want-out-cite-unsustainable-working-hours

how true is this for the senior citizens here? are we a snowflake generation?

Unregistered 27-07-2021 05:23 PM

Can I ask are people working in private sector (either private gps/specialists) subjected to regular RRT, the cessation of elective cases (for surgeons) and the cross institution movement restrictions that doctors in public sector are subjected to?

Unregistered 28-07-2021 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178565)
s://thehomeground.asia/survey-junior-docs-at-public-hospitals-want-out-cite-unsustainable-working-hours

how true is this for the senior citizens here? are we a snowflake generation?

again, another pseudo doctor spotted

Unregistered 28-07-2021 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178625)
again, another pseudo doctor spotted

Better than you boh liao.

Unregistered 28-07-2021 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178565)
s://thehomeground.asia/survey-junior-docs-at-public-hospitals-want-out-cite-unsustainable-working-hours

how true is this for the senior citizens here? are we a snowflake generation?

It is not about snowflake. It is that the world has changed. In the 60s to 90s doctors were respected. The change happened with the movement to give patients autonomy and all that anti-paternalistic medicine stuff.

Now nobody gives *hit about doctors. They are just there to do your bidding.

Unregistered 28-07-2021 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178630)
It is not about snowflake. It is that the world has changed. In the 60s to 90s doctors were respected. The change happened with the movement to give patients autonomy and all that anti-paternalistic medicine stuff.

Now nobody gives *hit about doctors. They are just there to do your bidding.

The change came when doctors sold their souls (and their businesses) to managed care providers and insurance companies and their TPAs for a steady stream of $$$$.

So doctors only have ourselves, collectively, to blame.

Anyway, everyone needs to realize that doctors only form a component of the healthcare system. We may be big fish in the pond but we are ultimately not the pond itself. The sooner we realize that, the better we move on from old hangups about prestige or respect.

Unregistered 28-07-2021 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178641)
The change came when doctors sold their souls (and their businesses) to managed care providers and insurance companies and their TPAs for a steady stream of $$$$.

So doctors only have ourselves, collectively, to blame.

Anyway, everyone needs to realize that doctors only form a component of the healthcare system. We may be big fish in the pond but we are ultimately not the pond itself. The sooner we realize that, the better we move on from old hangups about prestige or respect.

I agree.

Spot on.

Doctor is just another healthcare professional.

Nothing inherently good or bad

Easily replaceable.

But at same time important

Unregistered 29-07-2021 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178670)
I agree.

Spot on.

Doctor is just another healthcare professional.

Nothing inherently good or bad

Easily replaceable.

But at same time important

I think most drs have no problem with that.

But SMC also need to change. SMC set standards too high liao. Unrealistic.

Unregistered 01-08-2021 05:20 PM

How many phones do doctors working in public hospitals own? I have a friend who is a junior doctor who uses his personal phone for work too. Is this common or only AC and C use 2 phones?

Unregistered 01-08-2021 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178921)
How many phones do doctors working in public hospitals own? I have a friend who is a junior doctor who uses his personal phone for work too. Is this common or only AC and C use 2 phones?

Usually two phones.
Like most companies mohh give us a 25 dollar phone allowance per mth
This allowance is taxable

But 25 is good enough for sim only

We tend to have two phones.
To separate work vs personal.
HO MO and Reg needs it. Coz ppl dont like to share their personal number with the rest.
Any nurses doc or pharmacist or PSA can call u even if u have left the hospital. These days youngster like to switch off their work phones after office hours. Unacceptable.
I think it is only decent if a doc comes back to hosp, if he has forgotten to complete the discharge summary.

#Dedication or better still don't go back home

The very senior docs have one phone only. Coz nobody calls them haha

Unregistered 02-08-2021 01:39 AM

How long does it take for AC to C and C to SC. Is it worth to stay in public?

Unregistered 02-08-2021 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178923)
Usually two phones.
Like most companies mohh give us a 25 dollar phone allowance per mth
This allowance is taxable

But 25 is good enough for sim only

We tend to have two phones.
To separate work vs personal.
HO MO and Reg needs it. Coz ppl dont like to share their personal number with the rest.
Any nurses doc or pharmacist or PSA can call u even if u have left the hospital. These days youngster like to switch off their work phones after office hours. Unacceptable.
I think it is only decent if a doc comes back to hosp, if he has forgotten to complete the discharge summary.

#Dedication or better still don't go back home

The very senior docs have one phone only. Coz nobody calls them haha

sorry to disagree (in a polite manner)
it is perfectly fine to be off work when one is off work. there is a reason shift system exists.

Unregistered 02-08-2021 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178965)
How long does it take for AC to C and C to SC. Is it worth to stay in public?

aesthetic medicine will make you richer if money is your goal.
if your goal is power, then stay in the public. you wont earn more than an aesthetic practitioner.

Unregistered 02-08-2021 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178970)
sorry to disagree (in a polite manner)
it is perfectly fine to be off work when one is off work. there is a reason shift system exists.

Snowflake generation spotted. No wonder ceca taking over your job.

Unregistered 03-08-2021 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 179061)
Snowflake generation spotted. No wonder ceca taking over your job.

rude person spotted. dont be an educated but disrespectful person.
i dont need to be working outside working hours to show my worth :)

Unregistered 03-08-2021 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 179166)
rude person spotted. dont be an educated but disrespectful person.
i dont need to be working outside working hours to show my worth :)

As long as I earn more money than you I can be as disrespectful as I want. Stupid doctor.

Unregistered 04-08-2021 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 179201)
As long as I earn more money than you I can be as disrespectful as I want. Stupid doctor.

Wow… So in awe of you… So rich… So cool…
Love you so much..

Unregistered 04-08-2021 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 179201)
As long as I earn more money than you I can be as disrespectful as I want. Stupid doctor.

I love you

Unregistered 04-08-2021 04:48 PM

are there such thing as pes E MOs? have had mental issues since med school and I don’t think I can survive MOCC

Unregistered 04-08-2021 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 179245)
are there such thing as pes E MOs? have had mental issues since med school and I don’t think I can survive MOCC

If got severe skin problems excuse uniform permanently then is Pes E.

Mental Issues......if you so jia lat until Pes E, not safe for public to have your practicing at all.

Unregistered 05-08-2021 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 179245)
are there such thing as pes E MOs? have had mental issues since med school and I don’t think I can survive MOCC

Mocc very fun one.
Best days of my life

Unregistered 07-08-2021 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 179299)
If got severe skin problems excuse uniform permanently then is Pes E.

Mental Issues......if you so jia lat until Pes E, not safe for public to have your practicing at all.

eh, was pes E before I disrupted for another medical condition (A), but staying in during NS gave me depression. not sure if my pes E status is still valid aft 5 years should there be no relapse of A. would they allow me to stay out at least?

Unregistered 07-08-2021 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 179299)
If got severe skin problems excuse uniform permanently then is Pes E.

Mental Issues......if you so jia lat until Pes E, not safe for public to have your practicing at all.

in fact, doesn't having depression automatically put u in pes E? you're comparing apples to oranges tbh, the life in NS is a much worse environment for ppl with depression compared to outside. at least for the latter you can see ur family which helps

Unregistered 08-08-2021 03:38 PM

Is fm residency really worth doing for people planning to Do gp work in the future?
I am currently a fm resident going through a surgical (orthopaedic) rotation. Unfortunately I am posted to 1 team (spine) for the whole duration of the posting. Personally I don't see much learning value (I mean you don't need 3 months of spine to learn about back pain/neck pain in a fm context) and the spine surgeries (e.g tlifs) have totally no relevance to FM.
Was wondering if it would be better to just quit and join as a ops rp (for the remainder of my bond) before becoming a private gp eventually?

My understanding is that mmed has no value in the private sector, hence my focus is on the learning, how can I maximise the learning for the remainder of my bond so that I can become a competent gp in the future.


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