Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276488)

Can ask - when NQs to be get called in August, whats the big 4 salary range for NQs?

Some say 6.7K, some say 7.2K and yet some say 7.8K??

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276508)

Upon mass call in Aug, NQ is ~7k for Big4.

Logic would dictate that it cannot be ~ 6.7k, since GES 2023 results already puts the median starting at 7k, and GES survey is normally done during Nov to Dec every year.

7.8k is probably referring to 1PQE, which newly called junior associates will be regarded as, upon Jan of the immediate next calendar year.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276406)

Regarding the Nadine v Ethan Ong saga, I personally feel like Nadine was out of line. She has no interest in the matter, tried to be a SJW and land a punch in order to seek some online fame/attention.

In the end, she got punched back and is constantly putting up social media posts for attention despite saying she is not looking for attention/pity/gofundme.

If you are reading this Nadine, I hope this is a wake up call for you that the real world is merciless. As you are a year 2 Law Student in one of the most prestigious law schools in the world, I find it absolutely unacceptable that you did not even consider the consequences of your actions. I hope that game you are playing, "genshin shitpack" or whatever it is called keeps your mental health in check, because when you tried to post such remarks online about someone else, they had to keep their mental health in check too.

I don't feel sorry for you in the least bit. In fact I hope your parents pay the full price of it i.e. the law suit etc. It is partially their fault for not grooming your EQ. Hope this is a valuable lesson you will take to the grave. No one is buying your "financial difficulties" issue either. You started this, you should see it through. Maybe you can earn back some decency/dignity or people's respect once you paid your dues.

If Ethan is reading this, just note that my opinion above is solely on your choice to take legal action, and has nothing to do with the events beforehand i.e. the alcohol incident. That is a different matter, not saying I agree or disagree regardless.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276508)

Upon mass call in Aug, NQ is ~7k for Big4.

Logic would dictate that it cannot be ~ 6.7k, since GES 2023 results already puts the median starting at 7k, and GES survey is normally done during Nov to Dec every year.

7.8k is probably referring to 1PQE, which newly called junior associates will be regarded as, upon Jan of the immediate next calendar year.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276488)

Can ask - when NQs to be get called in August, whats the big 4 salary range for NQs?

Some say 6.7K, some say 7.2K and yet some say 7.8K??

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276579)

Thanks very much for the info, appreciate it. Just a side note, this is knowledge and research and not quite about what logic “dictates”.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276563)

Lmao I’m surprised you could type this drivel out since you apparently have your hands full giving Ethan a shitty handjob.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276508)

Upon mass call in Aug, NQ is ~7k for Big4.

Logic would dictate that it cannot be ~ 6.7k, since GES 2023 results already puts the median starting at 7k, and GES survey is normally done during Nov to Dec every year.

7.8k is probably referring to 1PQE, which newly called junior associates will be regarded as, upon Jan of the immediate next calendar year.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276625)

Do you understand what median means?

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276641)

Median means the figure cited is probably equal or lower than Big4, if you have even an inkling of understanding about lawyers' salary market in Singapore.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276641)

Median means the figure cited is probably equal or lower than Big4, if you have even an inkling of understanding about lawyers' salary market in Singapore.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276646)

Don't be too harsh on him. Law sch doesn't adequately teach people how to draw inferences from datasets.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276508)

Upon mass call in Aug, NQ is ~7k for Big4.

Logic would dictate that it cannot be ~ 6.7k, since GES 2023 results already puts the median starting at 7k, and GES survey is normally done during Nov to Dec every year.

7.8k is probably referring to 1PQE, which newly called junior associates will be regarded as, upon Jan of the immediate next calendar year.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276656)

You’re a troll if you think GES means ****. My junior got offered 6.8k at big4. Depends on experience, resume, how much they like you etc.

Only a fool would say there is a benchmark for salary for all NQs. Room temperature IQ also will know. Sadly common sense isn’t so common anymore.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276659)

May I ask, if the median starting is 7k, why can’t it be 6.7k? I don’t quite understand your logic.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276624)

Why is what he said considered nonsense though? I feel the same to be honest. Ethan’s legal actions are justified. It’s about time SJW like Nadine learnt the harsh truth of reality, that you cannot get away with anything just because you cry financial difficulties or feign mental health problems. Don’t start problems you cannot solve.

One could also argue that you’re a simp for defending Nadine’s actions.

In any event, you can say all you want but Nadine has to apologise on social media and still has to bear the brunt of her actions. I think this is the justice we need. Imagine being a law student and getting fked over by what you’re learning. The irony is real.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276730)

The amount of charlatans on this forum is mind-blowing. ********ters dropping fake news like nobody's business.

"Depending on how much I like you, I can tell HR to offer you a different salary as NQ..."

"I like the kid who says I'm a fresh sheet of paper and doesn't use words like 'logic' which intimidates my Singlish-speaking-boomer-brain because this shows he has no arrogance, unlike the kid who use big words like 'logic' and 'dictates'... only I get to dictate, especially, your salary and how late you need to work to prove you understand law is a calling ... "

Tell me you are some Chinatown hack trying to fleece gullible fresh grads, without telling me you are a Chinatown hack trying to fleece gullible fresh grads.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276681)

How does that square with ://sglegaljobs.com/blog/post/singapore-lawyer-salary-big-4-law-firms

which suggests that NQs are 7k except for WongP.

Is the sglegaljobs website inaccurate?

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276986)

Bump. So what is the answer? Are NQs (August call) are paid $7k or not? Seems like a fairly simple question.

Find it strange that a forum full of lawyers, with a not insignificant bunch coming from Big 4, can't answer a simple question? Instead we get one long winded self masturb atory reply after another that ultimately fails to answer.

Not even asking for a binary answer "YES" or "NO" a la cross-examination.

Feel free to elaborate if the true position is more nuanced e.g. "there's a band that ranges from X to Y" or "laterals may be lowballed at the lower end of the range as compared to trainees who did their TC with the firm", or "it varies from department to department"

But nobody can furnish a direct answer?

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 276986)

Bump. So what is the answer? Are NQs (August call) are paid $7k or not? Seems like a fairly simple question.

Find it strange that a forum full of lawyers, with a not insignificant bunch coming from Big 4, can't answer a simple question? Instead we get one long winded self masturb atory reply after another that ultimately fails to answer.

Not even asking for a binary answer "YES" or "NO" a la cross-examination.

Feel free to elaborate if the true position is more nuanced e.g. "there's a band that ranges from X to Y" or "laterals may be lowballed at the lower end of the range as compared to trainees who did their TC with the firm", or "it varies from department to department"

But nobody can furnish a direct answer?

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277206)

How likely is it to land newyork job ah. Knn I see all the nus nyu ddp ginas earning 225k usd right after graduation I also want

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277227)

Bro/sis, this August you’ll get your answer isn’t it?
But if you’re not in big 4, why are you asking?
If you’re already in big 4, then why bother asking?

Easy right

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277243)

So i suppose this forum is more useless than a navel ah

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277232)

Not that difficult. It was a lot easier over the pandemic, but it’s doable now still. Just have to zhng your LinkedIn, set as open to work and start talking to recruiters.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277274)

Getting a Cravath scale job in NY right after graduation as an NUS/SMU grad is almost impossible. You have to be the top of the top. If it’s not that difficult, more people would do it instead of going to B4 shithole.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277315)

Sorry, forgot to caveat that it’s easier to move as a lateral. Straight out of law school, pretty ****ing hard - think of it this way, why would NY law firms hire you over JD grads (whom they have interviewed and work with)? For the NUS/NYU kids, it ain’t easy either since they don’t have as much time in the American system to network, but being in NYC itself is a huge plus (they get to meet firms face to face in the limited time they have).

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277298)

NUS got 1 grad recently joined Latham. Very rare

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277427)

Hearsay for the new 1 year TC the second 6 months is 4k. True?

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277427)

Hearsay for the new 1 year TC the second 6 months is 4k. True?