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Unregistered 13-04-2023 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246113)
Baker just fired a bunch of principals and associates. How to skive?
which dept?

Unregistered 13-04-2023 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 245721)
Thoughts on the Paul Hastings "non-negotiable expectations" slides?

I think that all those people expressing faux-politically-correct outrage online are being hypocrites.

Lawyering is a prestigious profession, so being always on, and on-call 24/7, is a basic requirement that one should have been mentally prepared for when he/she put their name on the law school application. Clients' demands have increased, but there's no reason why our spirit of excellence and turnaround time cannot similarly rise to meet those standards, especially when they are paying top dollar for our services and we are handsomely remunerated for it. The client is always right.

In short, you knew what you signed up for in this profession.

I hope our prestigious, market-leading and award winning local firms like Rajah & Tann Singapore LLP and WongPartnership LLP can similarly provide such incisive guidance to the next generation of young impressionable lawyers.

As a midlevel Big 4 lawyer, I certainly wish that someone had shared these pearls of wisdom with me way back when I was a baby lawyer. To all my Big 4 juniors out there, you're in the big leagues, which is a privilege, so act like it.

Agree?
the way u spell out the firms' names in full like u just looked them up on acra makes me feel like u might not be who u say u r.

Unregistered 13-04-2023 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246121)
the way u spell out the firms' names in full like u just looked them up on acra makes me feel like u might not be who u say u r.
Look company names up on acra? Who’s intern is this pls collect.

Unregistered 13-04-2023 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246018)
thought they paid the highest among the b4?
you are mistaken. That is another firm that does cutting edge wall street work with their market-leading TC allowance.

Unregistered 13-04-2023 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246115)
which dept?
Across all transactional depts

Unregistered 13-04-2023 08:48 PM
Anyone know what the NQ salary is like for MC (think A&O, Links) for an EW-qualified lawyer? Have a TC and was wondering if NQ is the same as London rates.

Unregistered 13-04-2023 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246143)
Anyone know what the NQ salary is like for MC (think A&O, Links) for an EW-qualified lawyer? Have a TC and was wondering if NQ is the same as London rates.
MC pay in UK is generally £107.5k (S$178k) - £125k (S$207k). But bear in mind the taxrate in the UK is 45%, while in SG is capped to 22%.

On that note, I see many people claiming SC NQ salary in Singapore is $10-12k etc, whereas I've heard from the grapevine that it's closer to $7.5-8+K. Can anyone give any clarify on this?

Unregistered 13-04-2023 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246147)
MC pay in UK is generally £107.5k (S$178k) - £125k (S$207k). But bear in mind the taxrate in the UK is 45%, while in SG is capped to 22%.

On that note, I see many people claiming SC NQ salary in Singapore is $10-12k etc, whereas I've heard from the grapevine that it's closer to $7.5-8+K. Can anyone give any clarify on this?
Sorry, meant to ask MC NQ in Singapore, as my TC is a UK TC (come from a UK Uni) but with a view to qualifying (as an EW lawyer) into the SG office. Hence I was wondering if I would be paid the same as a UK associate, in which case my take home would be higher here due to lower effective tax.

Unregistered 13-04-2023 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246148)
Sorry, meant to ask MC NQ in Singapore, as my TC is a UK TC (come from a UK Uni) but with a view to qualifying (as an EW lawyer) into the SG office. Hence I was wondering if I would be paid the same as a UK associate, in which case my take home would be higher here due to lower effective tax.
My understanding is that there are some variations in the pay for MCs in Singapore. They're not as consistent and transparent than in the UK. Some MCs are notably high - CC for example as can be seen in their materials, but some MCs offer lower pay.

That being said, if you're offered a UK TC, I've seen people choose to work in the Sg office after qualifying as a UK solicitor after their 2 year seat rotations. So, I don't see why you would choose a SG MC TC over your UK MC TC.

Unregistered 14-04-2023 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246143)
Anyone know what the NQ salary is like for MC (think A&O, Links) for an EW-qualified lawyer? Have a TC and was wondering if NQ is the same as London rates.
Jumping on this question - anyone know what the salary would be like for junior associates at US firms? Would it be Cravath? Starting my E&W TC soon at a US (V20) firm in London, thinking about coming back to SG a couple of years after qualification.

Unregistered 14-04-2023 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246162)
Jumping on this question - anyone know what the salary would be like for junior associates at US firms? Would it be Cravath? Starting my E&W TC soon at a US (V20) firm in London, thinking about coming back to SG a couple of years after qualification.
Dont bluff and tcss lah. How can sinkie get into v20 firm

Unregistered 14-04-2023 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246162)
Jumping on this question - anyone know what the salary would be like for junior associates at US firms? Would it be Cravath? Starting my E&W TC soon at a US (V20) firm in London, thinking about coming back to SG a couple of years after qualification.
Highly doubt you would get into a V20 firm if you can't even find such basic information and need to ask here. The payscales for trainees and junior associates of all the top London firms are easily accessible online. Just look on sites like ROF.

Unregistered 14-04-2023 02:32 AM
law firm review
 
Any views on Stephenson Harwood Singapore alliance? Saw an opening posted.

Unregistered 14-04-2023 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246091)
U also got hear ur lanjiao?
Judging by your choice of words, I cannot help but wonder if you are one of those salty applicants with a working class background rejected by the firm due to "cultural fit"?

Unregistered 14-04-2023 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246095)
This is an important question to get everyone back on track to the original topic of this forum.

NQ -
1 PQE -
x PQE -

Assoc (range)
Senior Assoc (range)
JP (range)

Please fill in.
OK let's get this back on topic.

Big 4 (per month)
NQ - 7.5-7.9k
1 PQE - 8.5-9.2k
2 PQE -9-10.5k
3 PQE - 10.5-11.8k
4 PQE - 12k

MC (per annum)
NQ - 165-195k
1 PQE - 175-215k
2 PQE -190-230k
3 PQE - 210-245k
4 PQE - 225-260k

Unregistered 14-04-2023 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246177)
OK let's get this back on topic.

Big 4 (per month)
NQ - 7.5-7.9k
1 PQE - 8.5-9.2k
2 PQE -9-10.5k
3 PQE - 10.5-11.8k
4 PQE - 12k

MC (per annum)
NQ - 165-195k
1 PQE - 175-215k
2 PQE -190-230k
3 PQE - 210-245k
4 PQE - 225-260k
since when big 4 1 PQE starts at 8.5? I'm 1 PQE at big 4 and pay is only 7.5...

Unregistered 14-04-2023 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246192)
since when big 4 1 PQE starts at 8.5? I'm 1 PQE at big 4 and pay is only 7.5...
Think this guy is a little confused but his numbers are generally correct (except that you must add 1pqe to each number).

NQ is about 6.5k, but NQ only lasts 4mths from the Sept of your qualification till Dec, assuming that you do mass call in Aug.

1 PQE starts when you are in your 5th month or so of working (in Jan). 1 PQE starts at 7.5-7.9k.

2 PQE is 8.5k+ etc.

Unregistered 15-04-2023 12:03 AM
Would like to know MC/big 4 junior partner comp or comp for 8-10 pqe. Can contribute a datapoint for in-house: 9 pqe, 400k TC (300 base, 100 bonus+RSUs).

Unregistered 15-04-2023 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246163)
Dont bluff and tcss lah. How can sinkie get into v20 firm
so many fresh grads in latham and kirkland from nus this year

Unregistered 15-04-2023 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246166)
Highly doubt you would get into a V20 firm if you can't even find such basic information and need to ask here. The payscales for trainees and junior associates of all the top London firms are easily accessible online. Just look on sites like ROF.
think OP meant pay scale in SG. that one much harder to find

Unregistered 15-04-2023 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246226)
so many fresh grads in latham and kirkland from nus this year
Didn't know Kirkland had a Singapore office?

Unregistered 15-04-2023 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246238)
Didn't know Kirkland had a Singapore office?
Kirkland NY I'm guessing. Seen a handful of NUS/NYU LLMs there + Latham NY on linkedin.

Unregistered 15-04-2023 07:35 PM
Has Greenberg Traurig started to hire in singapore?

Unregistered 15-04-2023 09:57 PM
Hey guys, sorry to ask such a dumb question.

Recruiters/practising lawyers, would it look bad if I graduate around 2 years later than my cohorts? (Because I went for exchange in the US for 1 year then switched major from science to law during Covid). I will be 27 years old when I graduate in 2 years and I am worried if this would affect my employment outcome. Thanks, cause I am very concerned with this.

Unregistered 16-04-2023 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246293)
Hey guys, sorry to ask such a dumb question.

Recruiters/practising lawyers, would it look bad if I graduate around 2 years later than my cohorts? (Because I went for exchange in the US for 1 year then switched major from science to law during Covid). I will be 27 years old when I graduate in 2 years and I am worried if this would affect my employment outcome. Thanks, cause I am very concerned with this.
Nobody cares how old you are, they just look at your PQE. There are plenty of second career lawyers who studied law after doing something else for many years. As long as the reasons is not because you couldn't pass your exams and had to try another 2 years to get your degree, you are fine.

Unregistered 16-04-2023 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246293)
Hey guys, sorry to ask such a dumb question.

Recruiters/practising lawyers, would it look bad if I graduate around 2 years later than my cohorts? (Because I went for exchange in the US for 1 year then switched major from science to law during Covid). I will be 27 years old when I graduate in 2 years and I am worried if this would affect my employment outcome. Thanks, cause I am very concerned with this.
Just have a good story to tell and don't look like an aimless bum who will quit on them on a whim, and you'll be fine.

Unregistered 16-04-2023 05:23 PM
s://lawgazette.com.sg/practice/practice-matters/the-road-to-a-more-equitable-system-of-legal-practice-training/

Unregistered 16-04-2023 06:28 PM
do all the big 4 firms practise front loading?

Unregistered 16-04-2023 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246355)
do all the big 4 firms practise front loading?
yes, but some do it more than the others

Unregistered 17-04-2023 11:59 AM
What does one mean by a "strong" second upper for TC and LLM applications? I am from NUS, what should my CAP be like to be considered a "strong" second upper?

Unregistered 17-04-2023 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246428)
What does one mean by a "strong" second upper for TC and LLM applications? I am from NUS, what should my CAP be like to be considered a "strong" second upper?
Close to first class and not someone who scraped by the minimum requirements to get second upper (ie 95% of nus grads)

Unregistered 17-04-2023 06:50 PM
C.L.A Practice
 
Is C.L.A Practice a legit arbitration practice or is it just a front for Private Lun Yaodong Clarence to remotely command Fervent Chambers whilst on exile? How come he can employ an Associate, Leng Ting Kun, who similarly doesn’t have a PC?

Unregistered 17-04-2023 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246469)
Is C.L.A Practice a legit arbitration practice or is it just a front for Private Lun Yaodong Clarence to remotely command Fervent Chambers whilst on exile? How come he can employ an Associate, Leng Ting Kun, who similarly doesn’t have a PC?
What’s with the obsession with Clarence lun. Thing is nobody cares… let’s not give this more attention than it deserves lol

Unregistered 17-04-2023 07:24 PM
Any female lawyers want me to motorboat them??

Unregistered 17-04-2023 08:00 PM
what happen to gwen chung from aslant? thought she joined only a year ago? can't even find refs to her on aslant's LI.

Unregistered 17-04-2023 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246480)
what happen to gwen chung from aslant? thought she joined only a year ago? can't even find refs to her on aslant's LI.
Law firms doing more retrenchments than recruitments these days. No need for recruiters la.

Unregistered 18-04-2023 02:57 PM
Legislative law
 
My son has secured admission in NUS Law, with option to take MPP. He is keen in taking legislative law. Does this career will secure a good future for him? Pls share your thoughts.

Unregistered 18-04-2023 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246536)
My son has secured admission in NUS Law, with option to take MPP. He is keen in taking legislative law. Does this career will secure a good future for him? Pls share your thoughts.
There is no such specialty called "legislative law" lol. Do you perhaps mean administrative law?

Unregistered 18-04-2023 03:09 PM
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There is no such specialty called "legislative law" lol. Do you perhaps mean administrative law?
Pardon my ignorance. Just googled, yes Administrative law.

Unregistered 18-04-2023 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 246538)
Pardon my ignorance. Just googled, yes Administrative law.
Sounds good if he has the heart to serve social deviants and inmates on the death row. But a BCL/ivy league LLM will serve him better if he wants to work as an academic specialising in this area.


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