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Unregistered 13-09-2023 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 255786)
Australian and ****-tier UK degree mill grads are triggered

Why angry tho - market will do its job of sieving, we need not do more

Unregistered 13-09-2023 09:18 PM

yeah, honestly this is life isn't it. 50% own talent, 50% parents help - be it by parents sponsoring overseas uni, or pulling some strings here and then.

no point fighting over this.

Unregistered 13-09-2023 11:51 PM

Lol local uni kids and overseas uni kids fighting over stupid ****. Sinkie pwn sinkie to sleep better at night. In the end everyone is the same... getting shat on by clients / partners, and arguing in a ****ing INTERNET FORUM. For **** sia? Go touch grass la.

Unregistered 14-09-2023 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 255754)
Latham mostly Oxbridge/NUS. Historically a few London unis too.
Don't think Sidley has a batch yet but could be wrong. No one on linkedin at least

On linkedin got

Unregistered 14-09-2023 10:55 AM

For Corp as a career, go A&G or Baker?

Corp as a career meaning - may want to jump to international firms, but also if cannot make it, would like to stay and make partner at A&G/Baker

Unregistered 15-09-2023 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 255877)
For Corp as a career, go A&G or Baker?

Corp as a career meaning - may want to jump to international firms, but also if cannot make it, would like to stay and make partner at A&G/Baker

TSMP also not bad. Heard there are people who rejected baker for tsmp

Unregistered 15-09-2023 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 255943)
TSMP also not bad. Heard there are people who rejected baker for tsmp

looooooooool

Unregistered 15-09-2023 08:57 PM

Does anyone know how much CMS Holborn pays their NQs and juniors? CMS NQ pay in London is £105,000 p.a. Is the Singapore office anywhere close to that scale?

Unregistered 15-09-2023 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 255961)
Does anyone know how much CMS Holborn pays their NQs and juniors? CMS NQ pay in London is £105,000 p.a. Is the Singapore office anywhere close to that scale?

Lol not at all close to that scale on the Sg side, definitely less than B4. Just look at the salary range on their previous mycareersfuture job listings - 7k for 2PQE in IP/TMT.

International side higher but trickier to get hired there. Fair warning though that in the UK they are laying off associates

Unregistered 15-09-2023 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 255943)
TSMP also not bad. Heard there are people who rejected baker for tsmp

You have something to say, mate??

Unregistered 16-09-2023 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 255943)
TSMP also not bad. Heard there are people who rejected baker for tsmp

How is the new corporate partner Theo doing? Better than Andrew Martin?

Unregistered 16-09-2023 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 255962)
Lol not at all close to that scale on the Sg side, definitely less than B4. Just look at the salary range on their previous mycareersfuture job listings - 7k for 2PQE in IP/TMT.

International side higher but trickier to get hired there. Fair warning though that in the UK they are laying off associates

This is very wrong, the SG side also pays higher than B4 pay.

Unregistered 16-09-2023 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256026)
This is very wrong, the SG side also pays higher than B4 pay.

How much for 1pqe and 2pqe?

Unregistered 17-09-2023 06:30 PM

Can anyone shed light on what responsibilities of an EP at a Big 4 are?
I mean, we all know the general responsibilities - be sufficiently technically proficient in one's practice area + good at book-making.

Is it more worthwhile to be an Of Counsel at an Intl Firm and call it a day?

Unregistered 17-09-2023 06:32 PM

Hi im a jc 2 student. I would ideally like to stay in a landed house, preferably a semi detached.
May i ask is law a good profession to earn 600k a year?

Unregistered 17-09-2023 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256111)
Hi im a jc 2 student. I would ideally like to stay in a landed house, preferably a semi detached.
May i ask is law a good profession to earn 600k a year?

It’s not the fastest way to get there. Go for Medicine instead. It’s a guaranteed way to make at least 250K a year as a GP.

Unregistered 17-09-2023 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256115)
It’s not the fastest way to get there. Go for Medicine instead. It’s a guaranteed way to make at least 250K a year as a GP.

Are you serious? Seems like it’s not the case at the doctor’s salaryp forum

Unregistered 18-09-2023 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256123)
Are you serious? Seems like it’s not the case at the doctor’s salaryp forum

A GP can comfortably pull in that much. But anything more than that and you're essentially looking at being a business owner of a GP chain. Law is less scaleable.

There is actually a way to scale business in law. It's called...wait for it...owning a law firm with fee earners working under you.

Unregistered 18-09-2023 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256148)
A GP can comfortably pull in that much. But anything more than that and you're essentially looking at being a business owner of a GP chain. Law is less scaleable.

There is actually a way to scale business in law. It's called...wait for it...owning a law firm with fee earners working under you.

So you mean to say a clinic chain GP or a sole proprietor GP can earn 250K annual?

Unregistered 18-09-2023 04:13 PM

Wkw
 
Hi seniors, any thoughts/insights on life as a junior associate at WKW (hours, salary, utilisation target, culture/difficult bosses etc)? Thanks in advance!

Unregistered 19-09-2023 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256179)
So you mean to say a clinic chain GP or a sole proprietor GP can earn 250K annual?


The variance is wider in Law compared to Medicine. In Law, the worse performers (third class degree holders/second class degree holders from Australian/delisted schools) don’t even get a TC. Most of them end up as teachers, or worse grab drivers.

In Medicine, even the worse performing students who graduate with a medical degree, land up as GPs eventually. The salary might not be high compared to a surgeon but 200K/year is nothing to scuff at. Not withstanding the solid employment prospects.

Unregistered 19-09-2023 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256111)
Hi im a jc 2 student. I would ideally like to stay in a landed house, preferably a semi detached.
May i ask is law a good profession to earn 600k a year?

Aim to be a top performing insurance agent!

Unregistered 19-09-2023 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256251)
Aim to be a top performing insurance agent!

Insurance's for the lss educated. Be a GP/specialist for the prestige.

Unregistered 19-09-2023 04:49 PM

whats the salary guide for small to mid firms these days

Unregistered 19-09-2023 06:39 PM

Apart from A&G, what are some of the notable local firms for M&A/transactional work?

Unregistered 19-09-2023 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256272)
Apart from A&G, what are some of the notable local firms for M&A/transactional work?

We're talking about just M&A here, because "transactional work" can refer to a whole slew of practice areas.

For M&A, WongP is a good choice, but firm second to A&G. R&T is also okay but behind WongP. Drew is meh. SLB is okay too. For the rest... YMMV.

Unregistered 19-09-2023 09:48 PM

Hello, can any senior kindly share how the pay system works for lawyers in SG? How are the bonuses calculated? Thank you very much!

Unregistered 19-09-2023 10:51 PM

Does anyone know how much HSF/Prolegis is offering allowance for the singapore
TC? Heard it's same as the international TC.

Unregistered 19-09-2023 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256296)
Does anyone know how much HSF/Prolegis is offering allowance for the singapore
TC? Heard it's same as the international TC.

Can't disclose the exact amount but I would say it's within 5-10% thereabouts.

Unregistered 19-09-2023 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256280)
We're talking about just M&A here, because "transactional work" can refer to a whole slew of practice areas.

For M&A, WongP is a good choice, but firm second to A&G. R&T is also okay but behind WongP. Drew is meh. SLB is okay too. For the rest... YMMV.

How about just gen Corp or Corp commercial?

What are the rankings?

Unregistered 19-09-2023 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256280)
We're talking about just M&A here, because "transactional work" can refer to a whole slew of practice areas.

For M&A, WongP is a good choice, but firm second to A&G. R&T is also okay but behind WongP. Drew is meh. SLB is okay too. For the rest... YMMV.

How is WongP second?

Unregistered 20-09-2023 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256304)
How is WongP second?

if not then who is second?

Unregistered 20-09-2023 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256302)
How about just gen Corp or Corp commercial?

What are the rankings?

“Corp commercial” covers many different practice areas (e.g. projects, IP, TMT, etc.), so you’re going to have to be more specific. Don’t think there are rankings for “corp commercial”…

A&G’s various teams (including its M&A team) handles general corporate matters. This is probably the case for other B4 firms too.

Your questions suggest that you’re a young lawyer or a law student…

Unregistered 20-09-2023 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256304)
How is WongP second?

Sorry WongP position 0 ok? Better than A&G.

Lol u insecure isit?

Unregistered 20-09-2023 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256313)
if not then who is second?

Actually I’m not sure. My Rajah friend says it’s Rajah, my WongP friend said it’s WongP.

Unregistered 20-09-2023 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256320)
“Corp commercial” covers many different practice areas (e.g. projects, IP, TMT, etc.), so you’re going to have to be more specific. Don’t think there are rankings for “corp commercial”…

A&G’s various teams (including its M&A team) handles general corporate matters. This is probably the case for other B4 firms too.

Your questions suggest that you’re a young lawyer or a law student…

I am new to this, sorry about that. So to summarise, just go A&G for a great career in Corp.

Would that be correct?

Unregistered 20-09-2023 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256323)
Actually I’m not sure. My Rajah friend says it’s Rajah, my WongP friend said it’s WongP.

Yeah heard the same. Don’t think the rankings are meaningful in any way, just go anywhere you vibe with.

Unregistered 20-09-2023 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256328)
Yeah heard the same. Don’t think the rankings are meaningful in any way, just go anywhere you vibe with.

how is the vibe at A&G?

Unregistered 20-09-2023 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256328)
Yeah heard the same. Don’t think the rankings are meaningful in any way, just go anywhere you vibe with.

How about Baker? 1K more in pay right

Unregistered 20-09-2023 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 256324)
I am new to this, sorry about that. So to summarise, just go A&G for a great career in Corp.

Would that be correct?

Let’s just say A&G corp is like, a big fish in a small pond. Nowadays it’s a training pool for larger, more well-known international firms - lots of people go into A&G with a plan to stay for no longer than 2-3 years, and move to a better firm that pays more.


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