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Unregistered 04-07-2022 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224386)
dear seniors,

I am going to start my TC in the Financial Services Dept of one of the big 4 firms in Singapore. From what I know, the partners share the rooms with their assocs. Is this practice area a good place to start my career if I eventually wish to go in-house/international firms?

Market leading department. Why not.go for it

Unregistered 04-07-2022 02:26 PM

What is the salary and work culture for Mayer Brown international arbitration?

SG 3 PQE

Unregistered 04-07-2022 04:48 PM

What are the bonuses like in Big4 firm?

Possible to earn at least 16 months as annual package? Or is the salary itself frontloaded with the bonus already?

Unregistered 04-07-2022 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224433)
What are the bonuses like in Big4 firm?

Possible to earn at least 16 months as annual package? Or is the salary itself frontloaded with the bonus already?

Never heard of anything more than 3 months bonus on top of the frontloaded portion (i.e. total 5 months). But some of the more informed ppl here may know otherwise.

Unregistered 04-07-2022 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224436)
Never heard of anything more than 3 months bonus on top of the frontloaded portion (i.e. total 5 months). But some of the more informed ppl here may know otherwise.

i tot last time Davinder's team got 6 months bonus, back when they were still in D&N

Unregistered 04-07-2022 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224436)
Never heard of anything more than 3 months bonus on top of the frontloaded portion (i.e. total 5 months). But some of the more informed ppl here may know otherwise.

It goes up to about 5 months on top of the frontloaded portion (of the base component, not including the frontload) for most B4 teams, some litigation teams go by their own rules and can award more (at the discretion of the relevant partner heading the team)

Unregistered 04-07-2022 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224444)
i tot last time Davinder's team got 6 months bonus, back when they were still in D&N

I'm aspiring to practice litigation, Should I aim for a spot in DSC Chambers or join one of the 'Big Four' firms' Litigation Departments? I've heard stories about the intensity of working for a Senior Counsel.

I have a bit of mooting experience and hoping to secure a spot in some moot teams. Currently a law student

Unregistered 05-07-2022 06:40 AM

Reminds me of many of the lawyers in our midst: s://.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/humility-tweet-self-promotion/661444/?fbclid=IwAR1-Cmq4ACdYmAeg1UHqkhJ1wEouKr_X3ve8UJWzVQH_WR_v9WPf5c ZYURY

Unregistered 05-07-2022 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224464)
I'm aspiring to practice litigation, Should I aim for a spot in DSC Chambers or join one of the 'Big Four' firms' Litigation Departments? I've heard stories about the intensity of working for a Senior Counsel.

I have a bit of mooting experience and hoping to secure a spot in some moot teams. Currently a law student

If you’re into litigation, there is no better training or listing on a CV than working with an SC. Except perhaps becoming a JLC

Unregistered 05-07-2022 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224493)
If you’re into litigation, there is no better training or listing on a CV than working with an SC. Except perhaps becoming a JLC

Going against SCs is very good training too

Unregistered 05-07-2022 04:59 PM

What happens when you backed out of a signed offer from law firms/in-house platforms? Sometimes it is a difficult situation to make and we don’t really have a choice. What is the right way to deal with this and what are some of the consequences? Is this common?

Unregistered 05-07-2022 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224523)
What happens when you backed out of a signed offer from law firms/in-house platforms? Sometimes it is a difficult situation to make and we don’t really have a choice. What is the right way to deal with this and what are some of the consequences? Is this common?

dude you sure you're a lawyer? contract 101 brah

Unregistered 05-07-2022 08:11 PM

I am currently a LLB at SUSS. Just wondering if firms will give me a TC if I am looking at doing transactional work?

Unregistered 05-07-2022 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224535)
I am currently a LLB at SUSS. Just wondering if firms will give me a TC if I am looking at doing transactional work?

I encourage all SUSS grads to aim high. The supreme court should accept SUSS grads as JLCs and in the years to come i hope to see criminal SCs from our premier criminal law uni!

Unregistered 05-07-2022 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224535)
I am currently a LLB at SUSS. Just wondering if firms will give me a TC if I am looking at doing transactional work?

So you're another one of those who lied to get into suss? Passion for community law and all

Unregistered 06-07-2022 08:18 AM

anyone in big 4 facing the same problem?

no mentorship

3 PQE here in litigation but firm has never had any scheme to help me build a practice, client business development

all day day in day out is just draft and review documents and do heavy lifting

then the partners will be doing the scolding when things don’t go their way

and when juniors leave, new batch just comes in and repeat

where’s the prize in this industry?

Unregistered 06-07-2022 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224546)
So you're another one of those who lied to get into suss? Passion for community law and all

Lol, that was only the government's initial hope, they shelved the idea for SUSS grads to only be crim or community lawyers.

SUSS does not need you to be passionate in community/criminal law at all to get in.

Don't be a a-hole dude.

Unregistered 06-07-2022 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224593)
Lol, that was only the government's initial hope, they shelved the idea for SUSS grads to only be crim or community lawyers.

SUSS does not need you to be passionate in community/criminal law at all to get in.

Don't be a a-hole dude.

Is tsmp a good firm?

Unregistered 06-07-2022 04:08 PM

Are there any lawyer jobs where one works normal hours, maybe something close to 8-6? Or less? I don’t know how much longer I can be putting in 12-16 hour days. It’s affecting my relationship with my wife and kids, and my mental health. And there’s no time for house chores, errands, or just focusing on things I want to do like work out or read books. Thanks in advance.

Unregistered 06-07-2022 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224593)
Lol, that was only the government's initial hope, they shelved the idea for SUSS grads to only be crim or community lawyers.

SUSS does not need you to be passionate in community/criminal law at all to get in.

Don't be a a-hole dude.

it's egregious because SUSS was set up precisely to fill the void and provide a cheap local option for law studies. I'm fairly positive the majority of interviewees played up their passion for community law for a slot in SUSS

If you cmi to NUS or SMU but really want to be a lawyer, the honourable route is to use daddy's money to study in an overseas scheduled uni. Not exploit a backdoor route meant for a specific policy purpose.

Unregistered 06-07-2022 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224619)
Are there any lawyer jobs where one works normal hours, maybe something close to 8-6? Or less? I don’t know how much longer I can be putting in 12-16 hour days. It’s affecting my relationship with my wife and kids, and my mental health. And there’s no time for house chores, errands, or just focusing on things I want to do like work out or read books. Thanks in advance.

Suggestions:

Small Law Firms (but you have to do liti, might be a pain in the arse if you were doing corp)

CLAS/LAB (but prepare to take a significant pay cut compared to your high-paying job now)


Side-note about working out, many lawyers look like they are 20 years older than their actual age

Unregistered 06-07-2022 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224620)
it's egregious because SUSS was set up precisely to fill the void and provide a cheap local option for law studies. I'm fairly positive the majority of interviewees played up their passion for community law for a slot in SUSS

If you cmi to NUS or SMU but really want to be a lawyer, the honourable route is to use daddy's money to study in an overseas scheduled uni. Not exploit a backdoor route meant for a specific policy purpose.

Can always buy JD from NUS or SMU la

Unregistered 06-07-2022 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224685)
Can always buy JD from NUS or SMU la

FYI - NUS GLB is many notches above SMU JD

NUS is hyper competitive with LLBs for the same bell curve, vs SMU with its own set of JD class bellcurve

Unregistered 07-07-2022 01:04 AM

Are any of you in-house for tech / banking / commodities / energy / oil and gas / developer FI companies? Can you tell me what you like and what you don’t like?

Unregistered 07-07-2022 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224690)
FYI - NUS GLB is many notches above SMU JD

NUS is hyper competitive with LLBs for the same bell curve, vs SMU with its own set of JD class bellcurve

You are aware that NUS JD now follows SMU and curve within their cohort right

Unregistered 07-07-2022 07:23 PM

Those who cmi to NUS will then choose SMU.

Unregistered 08-07-2022 12:28 AM

I am a 2 PQE funds assoc from a leading local law firm. At which point in my career should I explore moving to intl firms or joining investment firms? Should I wait till I am a SA?

Unregistered 08-07-2022 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224784)
I am a 2 PQE funds assoc from a leading local law firm. At which point in my career should I explore moving to intl firms or joining investment firms? Should I wait till I am a SA?

Move as early as you can. The funds work in local firms is not comparable to intl firm funds work so you may as well move early.

Unregistered 08-07-2022 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224787)
Move as early as you can. The funds work in local firms is not comparable to intl firm funds work so you may as well move early.

What about offshore firms? Meaning Walkers, Ogier, Bedell Christin etc. I heard its better life than the full service international firms. Are these gigs good opportunities for a funds lawyer?

Unregistered 08-07-2022 10:32 AM

Urgent advice needed. I am an associate specialising in restructuring, and have a couple of offers I am considering. Anyone got anonymous feedback on the ex CC guy at Oon Bazul, and the ex HSF counsel at Baker & McKenzie?

Any insight at all very appreciated.

Unregistered 08-07-2022 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224799)
Urgent advice needed. I am an associate specialising in restructuring, and have a couple of offers I am considering. Anyone got anonymous feedback on the ex CC guy at Oon Bazul, and the ex HSF counsel at Baker & McKenzie?

Any insight at all very appreciated.

Ool&B a lot of ex CC peoples ley. Which one.

Unregistered 08-07-2022 10:36 AM

fresh grad from nus law here

seems like there is quite a lot of movements these days from private practice to intl firms and inhouse roles

may I ask at which stage should one moves from private practice into inhouse roles?

Why do people not stay in private practice?

How is culture in big 4 vs intl firm like?

Unregistered 08-07-2022 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224801)
fresh grad from nus law here

seems like there is quite a lot of movements these days from private practice to intl firms and inhouse roles

may I ask at which stage should one moves from private practice into inhouse roles?

Why do people not stay in private practice?

How is culture in big 4 vs intl firm like?

I also want to move to intl firm from big4. But so far they have been unimpressed with my NUS FCH. Think they prefer oxbridge candidates?

Unregistered 08-07-2022 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224800)
Ool&B a lot of ex CC peoples ley. Which one.

Please do not confuse cavenagh law with CC. One is a local shop another is an international law firm.

Unregistered 08-07-2022 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224799)
Urgent advice needed. I am an associate specialising in restructuring, and have a couple of offers I am considering. Anyone got anonymous feedback on the ex CC guy at Oon Bazul, and the ex HSF counsel at Baker & McKenzie?

Any insight at all very appreciated.

can confirm Ong and Basil ex-CC man is highly regarded

Unregistered 08-07-2022 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224812)
can confirm Ong and Basil ex-CC man is highly regarded

Heard he a bit not nice to his associates.

Unregistered 08-07-2022 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224805)
I also want to move to intl firm from big4. But so far they have been unimpressed with my NUS FCH. Think they prefer oxbridge candidates?

Then why not go take Cambridge or Oxford LLM/BCL?

Unregistered 08-07-2022 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224823)
Then why not go take Cambridge or Oxford LLM/BCL?

Bo lui leh. I rather buy propertee with my fiancee than do a useless LLM. Dont have rich parents like y'all mummy and daddy help you all buy condo,

Unregistered 08-07-2022 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224830)
Bo lui leh. I rather buy propertee with my fiancee than do a useless LLM. Dont have rich parents like y'all mummy and daddy help you all buy condo,

If you really nus fch and top 1%, can get scholarship what.

Unregistered 09-07-2022 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 224812)
can confirm Ong and Basil ex-CC man is highly regarded

Hello, Ong and Basil ex-CC man. Welcome to the forum.


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