Salary.sg Forums

Salary.sg Forums (https://forums.salary.sg/)
-   Income and Jobs (https://forums.salary.sg/income-jobs/)
-   -   All about Home Affairs Senior Executives scheme (https://forums.salary.sg/income-jobs/2636-all-about-home-affairs-senior-executives-scheme.html)

Monochrome 13-04-2013 12:28 PM

All about Home Affairs Senior Executives scheme
 
Hello!

Recently I got an offer from MHA and I would like to find out more about this scheme before making a final decision. I know some basic stuff about this scheme, but I'm hoping to get some answers on the realities of this scheme. So if anyone's part of this scheme, your input is much needed. Thanks!

I'm hoping to find out about the future career prospects after joining this scheme and the such.

Also fresh grads who are also considering this scheme, please join in! :D

Unregistered 13-04-2013 12:55 PM

you got wat class of degree?

ns or non-ns?

how much they offer you?


you fresh grad or with working exp one(if yes how many yr of exp)?

Monochrome 13-04-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 35744)
you got wat class of degree?

ns or non-ns?

how much they offer you?


you fresh grad or with working exp one(if yes how many yr of exp)?


Hello,

2nd Upper, no ns, details of remuneration and benefits not made known to me yet, Fresh grad (not sure if you consider temp jobs as work exp)

Unregistered 13-04-2013 02:27 PM

you do paper work one level above the degree holding policeman and fireman. attend meeting and do admin work. basically it's like a normal civil servant. like a MA program in that you change departments few times from Finance to HR to Planning. but not so satki like pte sector MA because you are not being groomed to be a manager.

then you finally get posted to one department and join the vast number of office people. most likely in MHA compound itself or Police HQ at Chinatown. Pay range you can find online.

Monochrome 13-04-2013 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 35753)
you do paper work one level above the degree holding policeman and fireman. attend meeting and do admin work. basically it's like a normal civil servant. like a MA program in that you change departments few times from Finance to HR to Planning. but not so satki like pte sector MA because you are not being groomed to be a manager.

then you finally get posted to one department and join the vast number of office people. most likely in MHA compound itself or Police HQ at Chinatown. Pay range you can find online.

Oh...wow. Thanks for the reply!

In this sense, the hase scheme sounds a little dead end (in terms of potential career progression), in the sense that you're trapped from moving on to supervisory roles once you're in this scheme - sort of. Please correct me if I got it wrong. But is this true for all departments? But then again do all fresh grads start as a hase?

I'm also quite worried about the rotation part of the hase scheme. Based on what i know, hase officers would be expected to experience a wide range of jobs within the ministry, so rotation/posting to different depts are the norm in the ministry...what's your take on this?

thanks!

temp111 13-04-2013 11:39 PM

I have some scholar friends who are in the HASE scheme.
they started out as MX13. This should goes the same as u.
Within 2 years plus, she was promoted to Assistant Director.

Unregistered 14-04-2013 12:25 PM

Scholar starting at mx13? That's a little surprising... I thought all fresh grads start from a level 12 at least? I think mx13 are for diploma holders or something? Can anyone shed some light on the mx scheme?

By the way is your friend a mha scholar??


Quote:

Originally Posted by temp111 (Post 35765)
I have some scholar friends who are in the HASE scheme.
they started out as MX13. This should goes the same as u.
Within 2 years plus, she was promoted to Assistant Director.


Unregistered 14-04-2013 12:46 PM

as long as you are a degree holder fresh grad, you will start at MX13, normally after 1 year of service will get to MX12 upon confirmation, then to MX11 after 2-5years of service depend on performance.

temp111 14-04-2013 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 35774)
Scholar starting at mx13? That's a little surprising... I thought all fresh grads start from a level 12 at least? I think mx13 are for diploma holders or something? Can anyone shed some light on the mx scheme?

By the way is your friend a mha scholar??

all fresh degree start from MX13. Diploma is under MSO scheme. not MX.
yes. my friend is mha scholar.

Unregistered 14-04-2013 08:06 PM

Oh okay...but when we talk about mx13 as a level, is it job specific? In that officers who enter at mx13 are usually tasked to deal with (I'm really clueless about this, so if I make a mistake I'm sorry) mainly administrative tasks? If this is true, officers who enter the ministry and deal with - I don't know - strategy formulation work as a fresh grad, they might enter as a level 12?

Hope to be enlightened on this. Thanks! Really surprised to find that scholars also enter as a level 13.

Also one quick question...are diploma holders and fresh grads entering the service on the same level (i.e. mx13)?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 35775)
as long as you are a degree holder fresh grad, you will start at MX13, normally after 1 year of service will get to MX12 upon confirmation, then to MX11 after 2-5years of service depend on performance.


Unregistered 15-04-2013 04:55 PM

It's a pretty standard civil service program. Pros is that you get more opp to try out different jobs in different places, cons is that it is not really a hi-po porgram so you will not progress any faster than the normal grad.

Should be able to get Assistant Director (equal to a Snr Exec in a big MNC) within 2-4 years depending on performance if you dun screw up big time.

Unregistered 16-04-2013 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 35818)
It's a pretty standard civil service program. Pros is that you get more opp to try out different jobs in different places, cons is that it is not really a hi-po porgram so you will not progress any faster than the normal grad.

Should be able to get Assistant Director (equal to a Snr Exec in a big MNC) within 2-4 years depending on performance if you dun screw up big time.

i have seen ppl stuck at mx12 for more than 15 years

Unregistered 16-04-2013 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 35838)
i have seen ppl stuck at mx12 for more than 15 years

At least they still hold on to their jobs. If outside, they would be driving taxis liao.

Unregistered 17-04-2013 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 35850)
At least they still hold on to their jobs. If outside, they would be driving taxis liao.

true, but 15 years is a long long time

Unregistered 17-04-2013 03:55 PM

Getting stuck at MX12 for the rest of life still better than be taxi driver.

Unregistered 17-04-2013 08:36 PM

just curious...why is that person stuck at mx12 for 15 years? Is it due to a lack of opportunities or?

anyways moving away from this topic, what kind of work in the civil service is more coveted - i dunno like strategic planning for instance?

Unregistered 17-04-2013 08:40 PM

Can check with ts what is their lag time after interview before they offer you.

Unregistered 26-05-2013 08:44 PM

Has anyone been called up for the interview for the HASE position that closed on 16 May?

Unregistered 10-06-2013 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monochrome (Post 35742)
Hello!

Recently I got an offer from MHA and I would like to find out more about this scheme before making a final decision. I know some basic stuff about this scheme, but I'm hoping to get some answers on the realities of this scheme. So if anyone's part of this scheme, your input is much needed. Thanks!

I'm hoping to find out about the future career prospects after joining this scheme and the such.

Also fresh grads who are also considering this scheme, please join in! :D

hey congrats!

can i ask how is the recruitment process like? You mentioned that you have not receive any info on remuneration but how do you know you have gotten the job offer?

Unregistered 14-06-2013 01:32 AM

the recruitment process is pretty strange. you need to go for check-up first and no salary offer yet. i would think time and money could be saved if it is the other way round.

Unregistered 17-07-2013 10:44 PM

anyone here applied before and the status is still showing "in process" ? my case is about 5 months already

icy water 22-07-2013 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 40039)
anyone here applied before and the status is still showing "in process" ? my case is about 5 months already

no response is the typical "response".
actually anything more than 1 month means gone case already. in rare cases, they are actually free enough to click the reject button after 2 months

Unregistered 23-07-2013 05:36 PM

make owsThejs
 
Anyone knows how long is the waiting period between the 2nd interview(Which I believe is the last interview) and the offering of a contract? Thanks!

Unregistered 24-07-2013 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 40245)
Anyone knows how long is the waiting period between the 2nd interview(Which I believe is the last interview) and the offering of a contract? Thanks!

around 2 weeks after my 1st interview

Unregistered 25-07-2013 01:50 PM

Recruitment Process with MHA
 
Hi,

I applied for 2 positions with MHA and the deadline of application is 05 Aug 2013 and 12 Aug 2013 respectively.

May I know how long will I have to wait to be shortlisted?

By the way, I applied by sending email to them as specified by MHA.

Thanks!

Unregistered 25-07-2013 05:35 PM

I notice there is a lot of these "how long I must wait for reply / interview / response / offer etc" questions.

Please understand that you are just applying for a farmer government job where there is like >100 desperate candidates for every opening. They will reply when they decide to reply, there is no need to keep speculating how long, logging on to website see status etc.

If there is no response, then there is no response, move on with your life and apply the next job. Don't bother waste time speculating or emailing or calling HR to ask, they won't bother as you are just one of the many digits who applied.

Unregistered 25-07-2013 10:32 PM

i would like to offer a different perspective.

if one is unsure of the timeline, then one might "move on" when you really should not and vice versa.

Unregistered 26-07-2013 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 40355)
i would like to offer a different perspective.

if one is unsure of the timeline, then one might "move on" when you really should not and vice versa.

there no such thing as timeline, they have plenty of choices and the candidates are the ones desperate for a job. they do whatever they please. wake up!

Unregistered 27-07-2013 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monochrome (Post 35742)
Hello!

Recently I got an offer from MHA and I would like to find out more about this scheme before making a final decision. I know some basic stuff about this scheme, but I'm hoping to get some answers on the realities of this scheme. So if anyone's part of this scheme, your input is much needed. Thanks!

I'm hoping to find out about the future career prospects after joining this scheme and the such.

Also fresh grads who are also considering this scheme, please join in! :D

is there 2nd interview or only 1 interview?

Unregistered 28-07-2013 03:30 AM

There are two interviews(one with mha's panel and one with your unit's panel) and one pre-interview briefing.

Unregistered 28-07-2013 04:32 PM

how come i only went thru one interview and was informed that I was further shortlisted and asked to submit cpf documents and wait for application outcome??

Unregistered 28-07-2013 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 40448)
how come i only went thru one interview and was informed that I was further shortlisted and asked to submit cpf documents and wait for application outcome??

I presume you applied for the HASE scheme? There is a 2nd interview in accordance to the choices you gave during the pre-interview briefing.

I believe as of now, the various individual units are still calling people up for the 2nd interview.

Unregistered 28-07-2013 07:02 PM

various units - is it referring to SPF,CNB, ICA etc.?

Unregistered 28-07-2013 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 40452)
various units - is it referring to SPF,CNB, ICA etc.?

Yep. That is the second interview i'm referring to.

Unregistered 29-07-2013 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 40430)
is there 2nd interview or only 1 interview?

mine was one interview only as i applied directly to the the division

Unregistered 29-07-2013 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 40486)
mine was one interview only as i applied directly to the the division

may i know how did it go for you?

Unregistered 27-08-2013 04:07 PM

Application for Home Affairs Senior Executive
 
Hi,

Can anyone share the application process for Home Affairs Senior Executive (HASE) role?

They states a good degree from local university, does it imply that their preference is given to those with good honours degree only?

How about double major(s) degree from local university but graduated without honours?

Please be kind as I am a first time user here.

Thank you very much!

Regards,
Angel

Unregistered 27-08-2013 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 41675)
Hi,

Can anyone share the application process for Home Affairs Senior Executive (HASE) role?

They states a good degree from local university, does it imply that their preference is given to those with good honours degree only?

How about double major(s) degree from local university but graduated without honours?

Please be kind as I am a first time user here.

Thank you very much!

Regards,
Angel

"good degree" usually mean FC or if shortage of candidate 2nd upper honors. Double majors is considered passed with merit only.

Unregistered 08-09-2013 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 40511)
may i know how did it go for you?

was offered 1-2 wks after the interview

Unregistered 08-09-2013 09:04 AM

I work in one of the Ministries and i assist my Director in reviewing the resumes of candidates who apply to my department. We are not particularly obsessed about getting graduates with first class honours. As long as he or she has attained a 2nd class lower from a local university, that would suffice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 41678)
"good degree" usually mean FC or if shortage of candidate 2nd upper honors. Double majors is considered passed with merit only.



All times are GMT +8. The time now is 12:17 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2