The answer is very simple,

you are just average joe(degree farmer) on the street who want stability/average bonus.....just join government job.......& got work-life balance...average 3 mths bonus or 15mths package.....

by the time you retire, your pay should be 7-10k range.

if you want the sky to the limit $$$, just join private sector.....but prepare to work your @ss off, and prepare for any FT invasion or retrenchment...or fired just because of Reservist

I thought for farmer in CS the normal ceiling is Director? Maybe close to 20k?

if every single farmer, is to be director, getting 20k, then who will be the one doing the "saikang",

most farmer will retire at MX11-MX10(maybe 80%), good one will go MX9/8(15%) or even 7(5%)....

Agree, def 20k is super rare for farmer. in fact most good performer can only reach MX9, sometimes very lucky one (~1%) maybe can hit MX8. In the whole CS now, there are <10 farmers who are MX7.

Deals.com.sg also SME.
Yeos also started as SME.

Most set ups start off as SME. Which is why I believe it depends on the industry and SME. We should not generalize SME as 1 category, there will always be the good and bad.

you are the one start this thread asking generalise question about gov sector, mnc, sme etc.

now you tell others not to generalise then what is the point of this topic

Hi don't mind me asking, but what are you looking for when you start this post?

Because after reading the whole post so far, it seems when people provide research & analysis, you not interested. When some people disagree in discussion, you tell others not to turn your thread into flame war. When people give general answers, you tell others not to generalise. So to me is like say whatever answer also cannot please you........

what do you mean by farmers? who are they?
other terms used?

how much do MX8 and MX7 make?

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